If we trade Flynn, does Carson Palmer come here?

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    I disagree. This offense is now built around having the threat of a mobile QB. Every defense in the league knows that Palmer is about as mobile as a lamp post. I just don't see that threat going away just because we lost the starting QB. My belief is JS/PC will find a mobile QB in the draft and with RW mentoring him he'll be up to speed fairly quick.



    So you think we're running the option if Matt Flynn has to play. . .?

    With weapons like Lynch, Miller, Rice, Tate, and now Harvin, we don't need a 'mobile threat' to have a good offense, and if we are seriously tailoring our offense around a mobile QB we are setting ourselves up for failure.

    More than half the reason Wilson was as 'mobile" as he was last year was because of bad/inconsistent guard play, not design.


    Flynn was a goner the minute RW was named the starter. This offense grew from RW's skills not from Flynn's. Flynn is obsolete in this offense. The team is going down a different road from when we got Flynn. At most Flynn is here for one more season and in the mean time a mobile QB will be named the #3 until Flynn is officially gone.

    I am not saying that the whole offense is on RW's mobility but that this offense presents a paramount threat that most be accounted for. Obviously you get the ball to the play makers but remember RW is a play maker too. Keeping the linebackers and corners close to the line of scrimmage does wonders for the short and intermediate passing game and you achieve that by having another facet available besides the running backs. By not using a mobile QB from time to time you allow the defense to focus solely on Marshawn or whoever is running the ball.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:I heard the team would want Tyler Thigpen given his athleticism

    I wouldn't want to touch Palmer with a ten foot pole. His best days are long behind him. Would rather keep Flynn honestly.


    I have been bouncing Thigpen around for while too. He is athletic enough to run option sometimes, has starting experience...Like it.
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  • Who gave any belief to Carson Palmer coming here???


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  • I think it would make more sense to get Pryor as a back up if we were to get a QB. Palmer won't be here. There are too many teams who need a Starting QB for Palmer to sign as a back up. Don't be surprised to see AZ draft Barkley and sign Palmer to give the young former USC QB to learn from the old former USC QB.
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  • I kind of doubt we will continue running the option if Wilson were out. It has risk and you are looking at your 3rd string if your back up gets hurt.

    I'd be surprised if he landed here as I just don't think he would ignore all the money and starting opportunities but I could be wrong. Maybe he just wants to kick back and get a ring while being united with Carroll.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:I would sign Palmer in a nanosecond to back up Wilson.


    You couldn't even pick up a pen that fast. This post is not based in reality.
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  • JesterHawk wrote:
    Scottemojo wrote:I would sign Palmer in a nanosecond to back up Wilson.


    You couldn't even pick up a pen that fast. This post is not based in reality.

    Shut up, nerd.
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  • ^ lolol wow
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  • I'm confused. When did the option become our base offense?
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  • Rat wrote:I'm confused. When did the option become our base offense?


    It's not. but some seem to think seeing it a few times a game makes it our base offense.

    As for Palmer, I doubt he would come here since I think he stills has a few solid years left as a starter, and Arizona has many of the tools he could use to be very effective.
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  • Rat wrote:I'm confused. When did the option become our base offense?



    people seem to think that russell wilson spent years studying drew brees because of Brees' ability to run the read option.
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  • I would rather have our backup be somewhat like Russell in that he can run the read-option if need be, don't think Carson can do that.
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  • Hawknballs wrote:
    Rat wrote:I'm confused. When did the option become our base offense?



    people seem to think that russell wilson spent years studying drew brees because of Brees' ability to run the read option.

    Huh??

    What ability?

    I'm corn-fused. :Dunno:
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  • exactly.
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  • Hawknballs wrote:exactly.


    Precisely
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  • Palmer would be a good get if he's dirt cheap. Finding a read option capable QB is very tough this year, anyway.
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  • Palmer to Dallas. I have a source.
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  • kearly wrote:Palmer would be a good get if he's dirt cheap. Finding a read option capable QB is very tough this year, anyway.


    That may be true if you didn't have JS as your GM. Yes sir that is correct!
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  • People need to stop with this "we need a mobile back-up" nonsense. Yes, having a Russell Wilson clone as his back-up would be ideal, but it's far from necessary. You don't pass on a better QB just because he's less mobile than the next guy. Would you rather have Flynn or Joe Webb in a pinch?

    Look at the Redskins. They relied on the read option more than anyone. Yet they still won two games when Cousins had to fill in. He even looked very good doing so.
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  • does anyone think russell wilson is getting together with his receivers in the offseason so they can practice blocking for his scrambles?
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  • Palmer should be arrested for impersonating an NFL QB.
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  • I've actually have watched the Raiders quite a bit because a friend of mine down here in the Bay Area is a long suffering Raiders fan. Palmer has no zip on his ball. He's reasonably accurate but his passes take to long to get to where they need to go. It's one of the reasons why Palmer seemed to throw a lot of red zone interceptions. I'd pass.
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  • rigelian wrote:I've actually have watched the Raiders quote a bit be a useful a friend down here in the Bay Area is a long suffering Raiders fan. Palmer has no zip on his ball. He's reasonably accurate but his passes take to long to get to where they need to go. It's one of the reasons why Palmer seemed to throw a lot of red zone interceptions. I'd pass.


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  • Carson Palmer is TERRIBLE. Has been for years now. I want zero part of him, for any price. There are literally dozens of QB's I would rather have. the guy is a turnover machine. Hasn't been the same since the knee. He's got Brock Huard syndrome bad. Punch-drunk has-been. Anybody still singing his praises hasn't seen him play in years.
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  • pehawk wrote:
    rigelian wrote:I've actually have watched the Raiders quote a bit be a useful a friend down here in the Bay Area is a long suffering Raiders fan. Palmer has no zip on his ball. He's reasonably accurate but his passes take to long to get to where they need to go. It's one of the reasons why Palmer seemed to throw a lot of red zone interceptions. I'd pass.


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  • how about trading Flynn to the Raiders then go get colt mcCoy from the browns he is available and may be a better fit for the hawks
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  • I don't know if Palmer has any game left, but I like the idea of a veteran backup qb to help Wilson develop to an even higher level. A qb in the draft obviously doesn't give you that. An aging veteran in the Hasselbeck mould would be ideal imo.
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  • SacHawk2.0 wrote:Palmer to Dallas. I have a source.


    I have that same source, and he specifically told me "Penis to Dallas." So I think you misheard :snack:
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  • Palmer would be pretty expensive and I think it's about time we had a backup best known for his ability to wear a cap and hold a clipboard after Whitehurst/Flynn.

    Count me in the Tyler Thigpen camp. Draft a rookie. Let them battle it out for the backup gig.
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  • If you are looking for a Athletic, Mobile 5'11" Back up QB, Seneca Wallace is looking for work.
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  • I think as long as Holmy is out of work, Seneca will be too.
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  • osprey3263 wrote:how about trading Flynn to the Raiders then go get colt mcCoy from the browns he is available and may be a better fit for the hawks


    I've watched every one of his NFL games, and you do not want this. No game. Skittish, really weak arm, takes a lot of sacks. Very ineffective. Some of that can be attributed to being on the Browns, but when a meh QB like Weeden comes in and looks vastly better, the QB has to be held accountable too.

    If you're looking at Browns' castoffs (which you should NEVER do), you'd be much better off going back to Seneca.
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  • ivotuk wrote:
    SacHawk2.0 wrote:Palmer to Dallas. I have a source.


    I have that same source, and he specifically told me "Penis to Dallas." So I think you misheard :snack:


    The Cowboys have 51,000 in cap space. That would be a strange contract!
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