If we trade Flynn, does Carson Palmer come here?

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pretty sure he'd take the money and the starting opportunity at arizona first, unless he is 100% in the hasselbeck realm of resignation at being a better backup.
 

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I doubt it. He is probably one of the most immobile quarterbacks out there.
 

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Natethegreat":1cuejmvr said:
I doubt it. He is probably one of the most immobile quarterbacks out there.


not sure how that really factors in.

The idea that you have to have a wilson-esque backup to be effective is a myth and not nearly as important as having a quality backup that gives you a chance.

I don't see us running the option any more, and more than likely, running it less, than we did at the end of last year.
 

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We wouldn't trade and pick up his contract and he wouldn't sign for 3 mill to be our backup when starting pays more and he is still s starter.

I predict AZ.
 

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Apparently, he will sign for less to be a backup on a contender. That's what his agent is putting out there. So, I'm not too sure.

He'd be an upgrade over Matt Flynn. I could give a (beep) whether he's mobile (which he actually is...very underrated athlete)...dude slings it.
 

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Hawknballs":lyt48uex said:
Natethegreat":lyt48uex said:
I doubt it. He is probably one of the most immobile quarterbacks out there.


not sure how that really factors in.

The idea that you have to have a wilson-esque backup to be effective is a myth and not nearly as important as having a quality backup that gives you a chance.

I don't see us running the option any more, and more than likely, running it less, than we did at the end of last year.

I disagree. This offense is now built around having the threat of a mobile QB. Every defense in the league knows that Palmer is about as mobile as a lamp post. I just don't see that threat going away just because we lost the starting QB. My belief is JS/PC will find a mobile QB in the draft and with RW mentoring him he'll be up to speed fairly quick.
 

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v1rotv2":2sxmm6wo said:
I disagree. This offense is now built around having the threat of a mobile QB. Every defense in the league knows that Palmer is about as mobile as a lamp post. I just don't see that threat going away just because we lost the starting QB. My belief is JS/PC will find a mobile QB in the draft and with RW mentoring him he'll be up to speed fairly quick.


So you think we're running the option if Matt Flynn has to play. . .?

With weapons like Lynch, Miller, Rice, Tate, and now Harvin, we don't need a 'mobile threat' to have a good offense, and if we are seriously tailoring our offense around a mobile QB we are setting ourselves up for failure.

More than half the reason Wilson was as 'mobile" as he was last year was because of bad/inconsistent guard play, not design.
 

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If Wilson ever goes down, we become Marshawn Lynch and the play-action pass. And I think we remain damn effective on offense. I'm down with Palmer. I'm down with Flynn. I'm down with Harvin (who was Minny's third string QB, at times).

Just keep RW healthy, please.
 

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bestfightstory":3aj87ueo said:
If Wilson ever goes down, we become Marshawn Lynch and the play-action pass. And I think we remain damn effective on offense. I'm down with Palmer. I'm down with Flynn. I'm down with Harvin (who was Minny's third string QB, at times).

Just keep RW healthy, please.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

And Yes....
 

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I doubt he would be willing to accept a pure backup role at this point unless he had absolutely no choice, and I think his salary demands will likely be at least Flynn numbers
 

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Seahawk Sailor":3815zo9e said:
I'd rather keep Flynn and see Palmer go to Arizona. They'd think they had a viable starting quarterback, and we'd have an immobile target to sack twice a year.

Not that they'd suddenly rise to playoff caliber, but Carson in Arizona would make them alot better. Carson put up some good numbers on a very undermanned Raiders offense. Give him NFL WR's and good offensive staff?

And, he's more mobile than people give him credit for.
 

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pehawk":3nre7q6u said:
Apparently, he will sign for less to be a backup on a contender. That's what his agent is putting out there. So, I'm not too sure.

He'd be an upgrade over Matt Flynn. I could give a (beep) whether he's mobile (which he actually is...very underrated athlete)...dude slings it.


Without being too antagonistic here...how many Oakland games have you watched over the last two years? Somehow, (outside of the fanbases Palmer plays for) the legend of the old, even halfway decent Carson Palmer remains. While I won't argue that he's an underrated athlete, he's hardly mobile, especially after surgery - can't put the same zip on the ball and threw Oakland out of a ton of games last year. While I suppose we could do worse, if it were up to me, I wouldn't go near Palmer.
 

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SirTed":151zjmb6 said:
pehawk":151zjmb6 said:
Apparently, he will sign for less to be a backup on a contender. That's what his agent is putting out there. So, I'm not too sure.

He'd be an upgrade over Matt Flynn. I could give a (beep) whether he's mobile (which he actually is...very underrated athlete)...dude slings it.


Without being too antagonistic here...how many Oakland games have you watched over the last two years? Somehow, (outside of the fanbases Palmer plays for) the legend of the old, even halfway decent Carson Palmer remains. While I won't argue that he's an underrated athlete, he's hardly mobile, especially after surgery - can't put the same zip on the ball and threw Oakland out of a ton of games last year. While I suppose we could do worse, if it were up to me, I wouldn't go near Palmer.

Yeah, he did throw them out of games. And he cant run well anymore. But, he still has enough to buy time in the pocket. Oh, and I NEVER judge a NFL player by their tenure in Oakland. Randy Moss and Charles Woodson advised me not too.
 

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I heard the team would want Tyler Thigpen given his athleticism

I wouldn't want to touch Palmer with a ten foot pole. His best days are long behind him. Would rather keep Flynn honestly.
 

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I really don't want to see Palmer come here, given the chance. He doesn't fit. Personality-wise, or mobility-wise.

Aside from that, this is my favorite comment from that article.
"I sure was ready to welcome him with open arms to Arizona to QB the Cardinals…

But then I saw that he wanted to come to a winning team

At least we could offer the opportunity to throw to Larry."
:lol:
 
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