The market for Seattle Seahawks quarterback Matt Flynn could finally be heating up after remaining lukewarm so far this offseason.

According to Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, the Jacksonville Jaguars are the most likely destination for the Seahawks backup quarterback to end up if he’s traded this offseason. The Oakland Raiders and Buffalo Bills are also expressing interest.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:In light of the new information here, and to prevent another dozen threads from popping up on this subject, let's continue this Flynn discussion here.

JSeahawks wrote:If we could send Flynn to jacksonville and flip 2nd round picks with them that would be ideal.

Having first pick in the 2nd round is either a great way to get somebody who slipped out of the first round, or maybe even better is a nice trade chip. All those teams who didnt fill all their needs in the first round have a night to think about who's left over and try to move up and get their guy. We could probably turn that in to 3 or 4 more picks if we were so inclined.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:

JSeahawks wrote:If we could send Flynn to jacksonville and flip 2nd round picks with them that would be ideal.

Having first pick in the 2nd round is either a great way to get somebody who slipped out of the first round, or maybe even better is a nice trade chip. All those teams who didnt fill all their needs in the first round have a night to think about who's left over and try to move up and get their guy. We could probably turn that in to 3 or 4 more picks if we were so inclined.

That's so my thinking, all of it. And I'd be euphoric if that happened in any combination. Getting in the position of taking the first pick of the second round would be awesome, and the power of trade to move it for even more loot would be fantastic.

Of course, it's all conjecture right now, but PC/JS, if you're reading this, MAKE IT HAPPEN!

SE174 wrote:

Seahawk Sailor wrote:

JSeahawks wrote:If we could send Flynn to jacksonville and flip 2nd round picks with them that would be ideal.

Having first pick in the 2nd round is either a great way to get somebody who slipped out of the first round, or maybe even better is a nice trade chip. All those teams who didnt fill all their needs in the first round have a night to think about who's left over and try to move up and get their guy. We could probably turn that in to 3 or 4 more picks if we were so inclined.

That's so my thinking, all of it. And I'd be euphoric if that happened in any combination. Getting in the position of taking the first pick of the second round would be awesome, and the power of trade to move it for even more loot would be fantastic.

Of course, it's all conjecture right now, but PC/JS, if you're reading this, MAKE IT HAPPEN!

I'd be good with that, but I don't see any point in trading away the 33rd for more picks. Either grab an impact player, or trade it for a 2014 1st... of a team that will likely finish 6-10 or worse.

bellingerga wrote:I rarely make crazy outlandish predictions but I'm going to stand by my post I made awhile back.

Schneider is going to surprise the hell out of us and somehow squeeze a 1st rounder out of one of those teams on draft day.

Rat wrote:

bellingerga wrote:I rarely make crazy outlandish predictions but I'm going to stand by my post I made awhile back.

Schneider is going to surprise the hell out of us and somehow squeeze a 1st rounder out of one of those teams on draft day.

All three of those teams pick in the top 8. "Crazy" and "Outlandish" are understatements about a prediction like that.

bellingerga wrote:

Rat wrote:

bellingerga wrote:I rarely make crazy outlandish predictions but I'm going to stand by my post I made awhile back.

Schneider is going to surprise the hell out of us and somehow squeeze a 1st rounder out of one of those teams on draft day.

All three of those teams pick in the top 8. "Crazy" and "Outlandish" are understatements about a prediction like that.

all 3 of them have terrible management, and are desperate. Hey I don't think it'll happen either, but Schneider is a wizard, and I can hope.

Rat wrote:

bellingerga wrote:I rarely make crazy outlandish predictions but I'm going to stand by my post I made awhile back.

Schneider is going to surprise the hell out of us and somehow squeeze a 1st rounder out of one of those teams on draft day.

All three of those teams pick in the top 8. "Crazy" and "Outlandish" are understatements about a prediction like that.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:Throw Flynn and a pick in the mix and it's not really that crazy. What's the difference between our second rounder and their first? Is Flynn worth that, especially to a team in dire need of a quarterback?

Seaswab wrote:Shouldnt we atleast get for Flynn what we had to give up for Whitehurst for crying out loud?

Rat wrote:

Seahawk Sailor wrote:Throw Flynn and a pick in the mix and it's not really that crazy. What's the difference between our second rounder and their first? Is Flynn worth that, especially to a team in dire need of a quarterback?

The 25th pick of the 2nd round compared to their top 8 pick. That's a HUGE difference.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:Throw Flynn and a pick in the mix and it's not really that crazy. What's the difference between our second rounder and their first? Is Flynn worth that, especially to a team in dire need of a quarterback?

JSeahawks wrote:If we could send Flynn to jacksonville and flip 2nd round picks with them that would be ideal.

Having first pick in the 2nd round is either a great way to get somebody who slipped out of the first round, or maybe even better is a nice trade chip. All those teams who didnt fill all their needs in the first round have a night to think about who's left over and try to move up and get their guy. We could probably turn that in to 3 or 4 more picks if we were so inclined.

kearly wrote:You know I've been meaning to start a topic on trading a player and how it impacts guaranteed money, so I might as well ask here since it's a Flynn thread.

If Seattle trades Flynn, do they still take any of the hit salary cap-wise (signing bonus), or does the trading team assume that cap hit? I had always assumed that if you trade for a player you assume the full cap hit. Am I mistaken?

Missing_Clink wrote:Wouldn't a trade for Flynn be the exact type of move that the Raider's new front office has vowed not to make? I'm really not seeing the logic in cutting Palmer and then trading a draft pick so you can pay Flynn, albeit somewhat less.

Missing_Clink wrote:Wouldn't a trade for Flynn be the exact type of move that the Raider's new front office has vowed not to make? I'm really not seeing the logic in cutting Palmer and then trading a draft pick so you can pay Flynn, albeit somewhat less.

pinksheets wrote:So for Flynn in 2013 instead of his number being something like:
$2m bonus + $5.25m salary = $7.25m if keeping him
$2m bonus + $2m bonus portion from 2014 = $4m if trading him before June 1st. If after June 1st we take the bonus hit for the current season + the remainder would hit us next year, which in Flynn's case would just be $2m again, obviously.

So trading Flynn gets us $3.25m in cap savings, if I'm not mistaken.

SE174 wrote:

Seahawk Sailor wrote:

JSeahawks wrote:If we could send Flynn to jacksonville and flip 2nd round picks with them that would be ideal.

Having first pick in the 2nd round is either a great way to get somebody who slipped out of the first round, or maybe even better is a nice trade chip. All those teams who didnt fill all their needs in the first round have a night to think about who's left over and try to move up and get their guy. We could probably turn that in to 3 or 4 more picks if we were so inclined.

That's so my thinking, all of it. And I'd be euphoric if that happened in any combination. Getting in the position of taking the first pick of the second round would be awesome, and the power of trade to move it for even more loot would be fantastic.

Of course, it's all conjecture right now, but PC/JS, if you're reading this, MAKE IT HAPPEN!

I'd be good with that, but I don't see any point in trading away the 33rd for more picks. Either grab an impact player, or trade it for a 2014 1st... of a team that will likely finish 6-10 or worse.

Smelly McUgly wrote:Ian Furness on KJR saying that Flynn is headed to Oakland.

Missing_Clink wrote:

Smelly McUgly wrote:Ian Furness on KJR saying that Flynn is headed to Oakland.

Saw that on Sonicsrising of all places. Think its for Terrell Pryor?

Prorated signing bonuses: This is the hardest thing to understand about the cap. For cap purposes, signing bonuses are spread throughout the length of the contract. For example, a $4 million signing bonus spread across a four-year contract counts $1 million against the cap each year. This explains why a team can pay a player $5 million in one season but have it count only $2 million against the cap. You add the $1 million base salary with the 2009 prorated part of the signing bonus and end up with a $2 million cap number.

Salary-cap hits: The prorated part of a signing bonus will always count toward that year's cap. But because every dollar counts toward the salary cap, teams must add the remainder of a signing bonus if they cut or trade a player. [emphasis mine] They do this in two ways. The rules are different in 2009 because there is no cap scheduled for 2010 unless there is a collective bargaining extension within the next year. If a player is cut in 2009, the team takes the entire salary-cap hit in 2009. If a player is cut before June 1, the cap hit occurs this year.

Take that $4 million signing bonus example. If that player who accepted a $4 million signing bonus in 2008 is cut this year, the team is on the books for the $1 million proration in 2009 but also must take a $2 million salary-cap hit this season. Thus, the released player would count $3 million under the 2009 cap, even though he's no longer on the team.

Why trades usually don't happen: Often, it's because of that prorated signing bonus hit. Unlike with releasing a player, there is no way that a team that trades a player can delay taking a salary-cap hit. Once a player is traded, the remaining proration is moved into that season. The same standard applies if a player is cut. Trading can begin Feb. 27.

SacHawk2.0 wrote:Please let this be true! And with stupid compensation indicative of the Oakland Raiders!