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  • This vote is a joke. The fact that the Immaculate reception got beat out by A TACKLE is absurd.

    It also goes to show the age of most of the voters... It's looking like Jackson's punt return will win it all. To say that that is the greatest play in NFL history is beyond laughable.
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  • 60niners, where do you think Beastquake ranks? I think it's #1, but not because I'm a homer. Here's what I posted on the Seahawks Google+ post when they posted about it:

    "The other 7 plays all involved a fair measure of luck in terms of the ball bounce, or placement, or other teammates. Beast Mode basically did this single-handedly, shedding 4,372 blocks on his run to victory. That's why he deserves to win."
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  • I'm a homer and Beastquake is the best.

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  • I don't know that I'd be able to pin it down. I do know that this league is OLD.... and to say that the top 4 plays are from within the last 15 years or so is a bit nearsighted.

    Personally I thought the bestmode play was amazing. I remember rooting for Seattle in that game because the NFC West wasn't getting any love and I wanted one of our teams to win. I also rooted for AZ in the Super Bowl. I do not, however, believe that it is the greatest play of all time.

    To say that is to say that, out of ever single play from the early 1900's and what-not, out of every single one play, millions by now, to say that the run is the best of all of that? I don't think I can quantify it like that.
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  • I agree about the last 15 years thing being a joke for the 4 best, but name a play where one single player put forth as much effort as Lynch did on the Beastquake run. (Serious question, because I want to see it if there is one.)
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  • Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

    But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.
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  • Dudes... the vote is a indeed a joke.

    Please.. The rate of the Steve Young run vote is going at over 200 votes per second. I thought it was a great run at all, but 200 people a second?
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  • 60niners wrote:Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

    But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.


    You're right, that does sound homerish, lol. He got touched by about 3 people, compared to 7 or 8 for Lynch, and on kick-off returns everyone starts off looking for people to block and the returner has the whole field to start with; hardly comparable to a run.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    60niners wrote:Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

    But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.


    You're right, that does sound homerish, lol. He got touched by about 3 people, compared to 7 or 8 for Lynch, and on kick-off returns everyone starts off looking for people to block and the returner has the whole field to start with; hardly comparable to a run.

    That wasn't a good video, it was a run, from the 4 yard line, on the first series in overtime. Two stiff arms, and some good blocking. Nobody goes untouched for 96 yards though.

    But I didn't post here to try to promote the Hearst run... It was just applicable to the question. Even if my 31 year old memory cannot recall a one run that was as mighty in the eyes of Seahawk fans (lol) as Lynch's run, doesn't mean that one does not exist. Hell, you can watch any Jim Brown highlight and watch him run over half of the opposing team.
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  • It seems very obvious that someone is hacking votes for the Steve Young play. He had tens of thousands of votes in the previous rounds but in the most recent round before facing Lynch he got 12.5 million votes. His vote total increased by 30,000% in that previous round. Yeah, nothing fishy about that.

    FWIW, if someone is going to win via hack, I'm glad it's that play. That would have had my vote if I wasn't rooting for Lynch. I think the Beast mode run went as far as it deserved to. It's too bad it wasn't in the other bracket where a leaping tackle made the penultimate round.
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  • This type of vote is exactly why there's no fan voting for the Hall-of-Fame. I still can't believe that you can have a "top 4" of ALL TIME, and not have the immaculate reception in there.
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  • Yeah, when they jumped from 20-30k votes to 20-30Million votes kinda gave away someone hacked the whole thing. That they didn't catch it and are letting it stand is lame.

    Oh, and while Beastquake was awesome, the Immaculate Reception still stands as the greatest play of all time. Youngsters don't understand that Pittsburgh had come out of nowhere that season after 40 years of futility. In 40 years, this was only their second playoff appearance. There was 22 seconds left in the game. It was 4th and 10.

    There couldn't have been a more incredible finish.
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  • 60niners wrote:This type of vote is exactly why there's no fan voting for the Hall-of-Fame. I still can't believe that you can have a "top 4" of ALL TIME, and not have the immaculate reception in there.


    The funny part is how the immaculate reception lost to the "why did this get nominated?" Polamalu tackle. The best play in Steelers history got wiped out by a play most Steelers fans don't even remember.

    My only quibble with people touting the immaculate reception is that I would classify it as the "luckiest" or "most remarkable" play, but not the "greatest". Greatest implies displaying greatness.
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  • My bad, I thought that was a return TD for some reason.

    @Salish: Meh, I still point out that there was a significant amount of luck involved with the ball bouncing the way it did. I don't see why anyone should get all the credit for an incredible piece of luck. Skill as well, no doubt about it, but repeat that play as closely as possible and 9,999 out of every 10,000 times, there is no score. Do you think someone lucky enough to win a $300m lottery jackpot deserves it just because they bought the ticket? :) No, there was a lot of luck involved, lol.

    The immaculate reception is the luckiest play of all time. It's not the greatest.
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  • I don't think the Steve young play is still being hacked
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  • Steve Young vote is now below 1,300,000. They must have adjusted it.

    Still winning by a few hundred thousand, though.
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  • That is about 800,000 votes for Steve Young in the last 30 minutes, same for Lynch. Something is off.
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  • Yeah, the damage is done. The hacking finished this off pretty quickly.
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  • bestfightstory wrote:Wow. To think I was THERE.... Honored.

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  • 60niners wrote:Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

    But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.


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  • 60niners wrote:Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...


    You can't argue anything, he went straight up the sideline and put down two little baby stiff arms. Lynch broke more tackles than that by the time he crossed the LoS.

    Edit to avoid consecutive posts:

    Yeah something is still up. I checked twice in the same minute and Steve Young's run received roughly 600,000 votes in around 15 seconds.
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  • Haha. Both votes are just bot voting. We just need a better bot than the one voting for the Steve Young run.

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  • We should all write in to the idiots over there at NFL.com and let them know about the Niners cheating.
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  • This voting process is obviously not legit. There are over 9 million votes for Steve Young, yet in the other bracket they aren't even at 500,000 total votes?
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  • I was just at site and Steve Young's play has near 10 mil to beastmode at 1.8 mil. No fix of the hack as some have stated.
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  • ParisPC07 wrote:
    60niners wrote:Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...


    You can't argue anything, he went straight up the sideline and put down two little baby stiff arms. Lynch broke more tackles than that by the time he crossed the LoS.

    Edit to avoid consecutive posts:

    Yeah something is still up. I checked twice in the same minute and Steve Young's run received roughly 600,000 votes in around 15 seconds.

    Well obviously can't argue with a Seahawks fan about a Seahawk play on a Seahawk messageboard... But yes, it can be argued. Lynch had blocking as well, and his run was 30 yards shorter.

    And you can't trivialize one stiff arm and praise another. Hearst took that defender straight to the ground.
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  • 60niners wrote:Well obviously can't argue with a Seahawks fan about a Seahawk play on a Seahawk messageboard... But yes, it can be argued. Lynch had blocking as well, and his run was 30 yards shorter.

    And you can't trivialize one stiff arm and praise another. Hearst took that defender straight to the ground.



    The lil baby stiff arm wasn't to trivialize the stiff arm, it was an inside joke of sorts for folks who have seen the Beast on NFL films. Still, if Hearst's return is as good as Lynch's run, we have to consider a ton of kick returns. It's an exciting play but I didn't see much in Hearst's return that I don't see in a Washington or Hester highlight reel.
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  • Don't vote for him! What about the greatest play of all time curse?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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  • 10 mill vs 1.8 mill (Lynch) not looking good. Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong.
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  • gspin2k1 wrote:10 mill vs 1.8 mill (Lynch) not looking good. Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong.



    I thought the same when I saw. Looking at the other numbers, its crazy how many niner fans have nothing better to do. I know a lot of old school ninet fans that think Young sucks and is waaaasy over rated.
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  • It would be nice if they fixed the loophole that allowed the hacking and then restarted the round of voting. But I'm not holding my breath.
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  • And less than 500k votes total in the other bracket.
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  • Just dumb. I don't understand how it gets this out of hand, but the Madden cover vote is having no problems.
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  • It's interesting how dismissive voters are towards big plays in the past, in bigger games. Not a lot of reverence for anything that happened more than 5 years ago, save for Steve Young, who may be helped by his MNF visibility.
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    gspin2k1 wrote:10 mill vs 1.8 mill (Lynch) not looking good. Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong.



    I thought the same when I saw. Looking at the other numbers, its crazy how many niner fans have nothing better to do. I know a lot of old school ninet fans that think Young sucks and is waaaasy over rated.


    In all likelihood, it's one guy with a macro.

    This contest should only be accepting unique IPs to prevent crap like this from happening.
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  • I voted against Marshawn Lynch because of the curse!!!@!@!#

    oh goodness! :C

    EDIT: Damn! Beat me to it.

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  • Sturm wrote:
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    gspin2k1 wrote:10 mill vs 1.8 mill (Lynch) not looking good. Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong.



    I thought the same when I saw. Looking at the other numbers, its crazy how many niner fans have nothing better to do. I know a lot of old school ninet fans that think Young sucks and is waaaasy over rated.


    In all likelihood, it's one guy with a macro.

    This contest should only be accepting unique IPs to prevent crap like this from happening.



    Seriously. Put it this way the other side of the bracket has a combined total vote of about 1/2 million votes. Yet somehow it's 10M vs 1.8M on this side of the bracket? Put it this way, even if the ENTIRE SF Bay Area made one click they would still only get 7M votes
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    60niners wrote:Well obviously can't argue with a Seahawks fan about a Seahawk play on a Seahawk messageboard... But yes, it can be argued. Lynch had blocking as well, and his run was 30 yards shorter.

    And you can't trivialize one stiff arm and praise another. Hearst took that defender straight to the ground.



    The lil baby stiff arm wasn't to trivialize the stiff arm, it was an inside joke of sorts for folks who have seen the Beast on NFL films. Still, if Hearst's return is as good as Lynch's run, we have to consider a ton of kick returns. It's an exciting play but I didn't see much in Hearst's return that I don't see in a Washington or Hester highlight reel.

    Oh ok, I didn't understand the reference.

    But again, it wasn't a return. it was a hand-off from the 4 yard line. First play in overtime.

    For the record I don't think that Hearst's run is better than Lynch's... I just think it's comparable.
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    60niners wrote:Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...


    You can't argue anything, he went straight up the sideline and put down two little baby stiff arms. Lynch broke more tackles than that by the time he crossed the LoS.

    Edit to avoid consecutive posts:

    Yeah something is still up. I checked twice in the same minute and Steve Young's run received roughly 600,000 votes in around 15 seconds.

    Well obviously can't argue with a Seahawks fan about a Seahawk play on a Seahawk messageboard... But yes, it can be argued. Lynch had blocking as well, and his run was 30 yards shorter.

    And you can't trivialize one stiff arm and praise another. Hearst took that defender straight to the ground.


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  • Sturm wrote:In all likelihood, it's one guy with a macro.

    This contest should only be accepting unique IPs to prevent crap like this from happening.

    Absolutely agree.


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    Get over yourselves, and don't contaminate this thread with juvenile crap from another thread (stuff that belongs in the shack or PWR forum anyhow).

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  • 60niners wrote:This vote is a joke. The fact that the Immaculate reception got beat out by A TACKLE is absurd.

    It also goes to show the age of most of the voters... It's looking like Jackson's punt return will win it all. To say that that is the greatest play in NFL history is beyond laughable.

    I'm into my second half-century, and I voted for the tackle over the francorusskie. The tackle was a tremendous play by a tremendous athlete, who accomplished something amazing all on his own. The francorusskie was merely the confluence of unlikely events that arguably should never have been called the way it did.

    From your perspective, how would it look if Seahawk fans were trying to argue that the game winning hail-mary in last year's Packers game should be in contention for the greatest play of all time? It was a great play, after all.
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  • In all seriousness:

    What the hell? That Steve Young play sucks. The dumbass tripped into the endzone!
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  • Maelstrom787 wrote:In all seriousness:

    What the hell? That Steve Young play sucks. The dumbass tripped into the endzone!

    I noticed that too. It looked almost BuffaloWildWings tripping-on-a-sprinkler comical.
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  • MrCarey wrote:Just dumb. I don't understand how it gets this out of hand, but the Madden cover vote is having no problems.


    The Madden cover vote doesn't show the vote counts, so 1) It is much harder to get a hack to work when you don't know if it's working or not and 2) If that vote is being hacked, we can't see it happening.
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  • Then NFL screwed up when they made the vote a simple click. That's it, one motion, refresh and go. There are even options to "deselect" which is likely what happened there. It was a very small request, making the traffic relatively minimal, especially if a script was used. With that type of job, it doesn't have to wait for a page to load or present an option because the script doesn't have to deal with the other action on the site.

    Once the bot ran up the count to an unreachable number, they killed so it appeared to be running normal at the end. The mathematics should have been enough to flag it as a hack, but the guys at NFL won't let a little thing like integrity spoil their big game.

    The madden vote is a little more complex. But it is still hackable and the bot will log whether or not the transaction took place, so they don't need a results page to see progress.

    I promise you this, it was more than one machine doing that work on the Steve Young run. I am thinking probably 5. It was jumping at literally 1000 a second at one point and I never saw it drop less than 300 a second.

    Think about that, 300 a second? COME ON!!!!!!
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  • Looks like we lost buy a 5:1 Margin. Didnt think it would be so one sided.

    No Doubt we would have beat out the other two plays in the other bracket.


    Also as far as the Madden Cover goes I dont think Russell can beat out Adrian Peterson.
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  • Axx wrote:Looks like we lost buy a 5:1 Margin. Didnt think it would be so one sided.

    No Doubt we would have beat out the other two plays in the other bracket.


    Also as far as the Madden Cover goes I dont think Russell can beat out Adrian Peterson.


    We didn't lose anything, but I think Marshawn Lynch got the shaft by a couple processor cores. The whole thing loses its legitimacy when they allow multiple votes.

    Why do they do that? Because it makes their numbers look big at NFL.com. The morning it started, Lynch was spanking Young by a 5:1 margin, literally. Then in the matter of an hour it got ridiculous.
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  • loafoftatupu wrote:
    Axx wrote:Looks like we lost buy a 5:1 Margin. Didnt think it would be so one sided.

    No Doubt we would have beat out the other two plays in the other bracket.


    Also as far as the Madden Cover goes I dont think Russell can beat out Adrian Peterson.


    We didn't lose anything, but I think Marshawn Lynch got the shaft by a couple processor cores. The whole thing loses its legitimacy when they allow multiple votes.

    Why do they do that? Because it makes their numbers look big at NFL.com. The morning it started, Lynch was spanking Young by a 5:1 margin, literally. Then in the matter of an hour it got ridiculous.


    We shall see, Unbelievably DeSean's PR has a slight edge over Young's run. I guess the philly fanboys want to win something this year since they didnt really win any games.
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  • SF may have Google and FB, but we got Microsoft. Somebody call some of your Egghead buddies up and tell them to get cracking on a macro voting for Lynch ASAP. Take this thing back over lol.
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