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 Post subject: Re: Vote fro Marshawn Lynch for greatest play of all time
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Lynch comfortably ahead 20715
Music City Miracle 7539

The way that it's shaping up will have Lynch vs Tyree's catch in SB. That's not good.

Tyree 77349 votes right now vs Youngs TD run 29577

We are gonna have to put in OT if we want Lynch to move on...

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Going up against Tyrees catch would be tough, but Beast Quake was on another level. Hopefully people aren't noobs and vote correctly :p


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Tyree vs Young has more votes than the others combined. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in the next round.

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WTF???

Steve Young run is at 8MM right now! Is someone using a bot or something to get votes cause that can't be right.

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just saw that myself...WTF?

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Niners fans have no life. The sad part is that Roger Craig had the best play from a 49er I have seen with a run against (I think) the Rams where he was just trucking over people with his high knees and it was never included in the voting.

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WTF???

Steve Young run is at 8MM right now! Is someone using a bot or something to get votes cause that can't be right.



It is a macro.. We use them to capacity test websites at my employer. There are tons of free browser bots, but I wouldn't set one up, that's just just wrong on so many levels.

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It is a macro.. We use them to capacity test websites at my employer. There are tons of free browser bots, but I wouldn't set one up, that's just just wrong on so many levels.


I'm actually planning to start using a testing automation plugin for Chrome this fall for the weekly awards. It's utterly stupid that the NFL allows unlimited voting for all this crap, and I want to help put a stop to it by abusing it. I hope you'll join me. 8)

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loafoftatupu wrote:
It is a macro.. We use them to capacity test websites at my employer. There are tons of free browser bots, but I wouldn't set one up, that's just just wrong on so many levels.


I'm actually planning to start using a testing automation plugin for Chrome this fall for the weekly awards. It's utterly stupid that the NFL allows unlimited voting for all this crap, and I want to help put a stop to it by abusing it. I hope you'll join me. 8)


They should catch it pretty easy if they just do the math. They have to know.

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Lol.. Someone had to use one with like 30 virtual users doing a vote like every 3 seconds to get that number. Lol...

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LOL!!!!

Based on the numbers if the voting stopped 4/3/2013 at midnight, it would take 35 people to vote every second, 24 hours a day, non-stop for the 4 day period allowed to make the nearly 10 million votes for the Steve Young run.

Their website couldn't even handle it. I tested it for 500 loops with two users hitting it once every two seconds and it started timing out badly.

Something just aint "right" with that right there. So don't bother placing your vote, it is rigged.

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LOL!!!!

Based on the numbers if the voting stopped 4/3/2013 at midnight, it would take 35 people to vote every second, 24 hours a day, non-stop for the 4 day period allowed to make the nearly 10 million votes for the Steve Young run.

Their website couldn't even handle it. I tested it for 500 loops with two users hitting it once every two seconds and it started timing out badly.

Something just aint "right" with that right there. So don't bother placing your vote, it is rigged.


So. It's a playoff, isn't it? Votes should start over at zero in the next round so there's no catching up to do. Use your super techno dude skillz to their fullest to take out the 49'er infadels.

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LOL!!!!

Based on the numbers if the voting stopped 4/3/2013 at midnight, it would take 35 people to vote every second, 24 hours a day, non-stop for the 4 day period allowed to make the nearly 10 million votes for the Steve Young run.

Their website couldn't even handle it. I tested it for 500 loops with two users hitting it once every two seconds and it started timing out badly.

Something just aint "right" with that right there. So don't bother placing your vote, it is rigged.


So. It's a playoff, isn't it? Votes should start over at zero in the next round so there's no catching up to do. Use your super techno dude skillz to their fullest to take out the 49'er infadels.


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Well, since the other thread was closed, can someone please add a link to the Madden contest for RW to the first post and maybe edit the thread title too? http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/feature ... cid=google

The other thread also talked about the Madden contest. This one only talks about the "best play" contest, yet the other thread was closed. Sigh...


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Well, if this is now also the Madden thread, it seems that Kaepernick's had his tattoos censored by EA.

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OK....How the heck do you vote over there? I have used two browsers and it does the same thing. I can only click on the check mark to select. There is no enter or vote button or link.
Does it count a vote if you "click" on the check mark? I am very frustrated cause I want to vote for Beast.


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Gal, that is the vote. Simply checking it.

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Gal, that is the vote. Simply checking it.

Cool! That means I have voted a lot...I wasn't even aware of it. :thirishdrinkers:


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Gal, that is the vote. Simply checking it.

Cool! That means I have voted a lot...I wasn't even aware of it. :thirishdrinkers:


Don't stop. 8)

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This vote is a joke. The fact that the Immaculate reception got beat out by A TACKLE is absurd.

It also goes to show the age of most of the voters... It's looking like Jackson's punt return will win it all. To say that that is the greatest play in NFL history is beyond laughable.

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60niners, where do you think Beastquake ranks? I think it's #1, but not because I'm a homer. Here's what I posted on the Seahawks Google+ post when they posted about it:

"The other 7 plays all involved a fair measure of luck in terms of the ball bounce, or placement, or other teammates. Beast Mode basically did this single-handedly, shedding 4,372 blocks on his run to victory. That's why he deserves to win."

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I'm a homer and Beastquake is the best.

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I don't know that I'd be able to pin it down. I do know that this league is OLD.... and to say that the top 4 plays are from within the last 15 years or so is a bit nearsighted.

Personally I thought the bestmode play was amazing. I remember rooting for Seattle in that game because the NFC West wasn't getting any love and I wanted one of our teams to win. I also rooted for AZ in the Super Bowl. I do not, however, believe that it is the greatest play of all time.

To say that is to say that, out of ever single play from the early 1900's and what-not, out of every single one play, millions by now, to say that the run is the best of all of that? I don't think I can quantify it like that.

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I agree about the last 15 years thing being a joke for the 4 best, but name a play where one single player put forth as much effort as Lynch did on the Beastquake run. (Serious question, because I want to see it if there is one.)

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Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.

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Dudes... the vote is a indeed a joke.

Please.. The rate of the Steve Young run vote is going at over 200 votes per second. I thought it was a great run at all, but 200 people a second?

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Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.


You're right, that does sound homerish, lol. He got touched by about 3 people, compared to 7 or 8 for Lynch, and on kick-off returns everyone starts off looking for people to block and the returner has the whole field to start with; hardly comparable to a run.

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Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.


You're right, that does sound homerish, lol. He got touched by about 3 people, compared to 7 or 8 for Lynch, and on kick-off returns everyone starts off looking for people to block and the returner has the whole field to start with; hardly comparable to a run.

That wasn't a good video, it was a run, from the 4 yard line, on the first series in overtime. Two stiff arms, and some good blocking. Nobody goes untouched for 96 yards though.

But I didn't post here to try to promote the Hearst run... It was just applicable to the question. Even if my 31 year old memory cannot recall a one run that was as mighty in the eyes of Seahawk fans (lol) as Lynch's run, doesn't mean that one does not exist. Hell, you can watch any Jim Brown highlight and watch him run over half of the opposing team.

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It seems very obvious that someone is hacking votes for the Steve Young play. He had tens of thousands of votes in the previous rounds but in the most recent round before facing Lynch he got 12.5 million votes. His vote total increased by 30,000% in that previous round. Yeah, nothing fishy about that.

FWIW, if someone is going to win via hack, I'm glad it's that play. That would have had my vote if I wasn't rooting for Lynch. I think the Beast mode run went as far as it deserved to. It's too bad it wasn't in the other bracket where a leaping tackle made the penultimate round.


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This type of vote is exactly why there's no fan voting for the Hall-of-Fame. I still can't believe that you can have a "top 4" of ALL TIME, and not have the immaculate reception in there.

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Yeah, when they jumped from 20-30k votes to 20-30Million votes kinda gave away someone hacked the whole thing. That they didn't catch it and are letting it stand is lame.

Oh, and while Beastquake was awesome, the Immaculate Reception still stands as the greatest play of all time. Youngsters don't understand that Pittsburgh had come out of nowhere that season after 40 years of futility. In 40 years, this was only their second playoff appearance. There was 22 seconds left in the game. It was 4th and 10.

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This type of vote is exactly why there's no fan voting for the Hall-of-Fame. I still can't believe that you can have a "top 4" of ALL TIME, and not have the immaculate reception in there.


The funny part is how the immaculate reception lost to the "why did this get nominated?" Polamalu tackle. The best play in Steelers history got wiped out by a play most Steelers fans don't even remember.

My only quibble with people touting the immaculate reception is that I would classify it as the "luckiest" or "most remarkable" play, but not the "greatest". Greatest implies displaying greatness.


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My bad, I thought that was a return TD for some reason.

@Salish: Meh, I still point out that there was a significant amount of luck involved with the ball bouncing the way it did. I don't see why anyone should get all the credit for an incredible piece of luck. Skill as well, no doubt about it, but repeat that play as closely as possible and 9,999 out of every 10,000 times, there is no score. Do you think someone lucky enough to win a $300m lottery jackpot deserves it just because they bought the ticket? :) No, there was a lot of luck involved, lol.

The immaculate reception is the luckiest play of all time. It's not the greatest.

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I don't think the Steve young play is still being hacked

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Steve Young vote is now below 1,300,000. They must have adjusted it.

Still winning by a few hundred thousand, though.

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That is about 800,000 votes for Steve Young in the last 30 minutes, same for Lynch. Something is off.

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Yeah, the damage is done. The hacking finished this off pretty quickly.


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Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgrjrp6jXE

But I won't take anything away from Lynch's run, I too thought it was awesome.


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Naw, that wasn't a baby stiff arm... he mushed him.

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Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...


You can't argue anything, he went straight up the sideline and put down two little baby stiff arms. Lynch broke more tackles than that by the time he crossed the LoS.

Edit to avoid consecutive posts:

Yeah something is still up. I checked twice in the same minute and Steve Young's run received roughly 600,000 votes in around 15 seconds.

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Haha. Both votes are just bot voting. We just need a better bot than the one voting for the Steve Young run.

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We should all write in to the idiots over there at NFL.com and let them know about the Niners cheating.

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This voting process is obviously not legit. There are over 9 million votes for Steve Young, yet in the other bracket they aren't even at 500,000 total votes?

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 Post subject: Re: Vote fro Marshawn Lynch for greatest play of all time
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I was just at site and Steve Young's play has near 10 mil to beastmode at 1.8 mil. No fix of the hack as some have stated.

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 Post subject: Re: Vote fro Marshawn Lynch for greatest play of all time
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Well it's going to sound homerish, you could argue that Garrison Hearst's 96 yard TD run was just as beasty...


You can't argue anything, he went straight up the sideline and put down two little baby stiff arms. Lynch broke more tackles than that by the time he crossed the LoS.

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Yeah something is still up. I checked twice in the same minute and Steve Young's run received roughly 600,000 votes in around 15 seconds.

Well obviously can't argue with a Seahawks fan about a Seahawk play on a Seahawk messageboard... But yes, it can be argued. Lynch had blocking as well, and his run was 30 yards shorter.

And you can't trivialize one stiff arm and praise another. Hearst took that defender straight to the ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Vote fro Marshawn Lynch for greatest play of all time
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Well obviously can't argue with a Seahawks fan about a Seahawk play on a Seahawk messageboard... But yes, it can be argued. Lynch had blocking as well, and his run was 30 yards shorter.

And you can't trivialize one stiff arm and praise another. Hearst took that defender straight to the ground.



The lil baby stiff arm wasn't to trivialize the stiff arm, it was an inside joke of sorts for folks who have seen the Beast on NFL films. Still, if Hearst's return is as good as Lynch's run, we have to consider a ton of kick returns. It's an exciting play but I didn't see much in Hearst's return that I don't see in a Washington or Hester highlight reel.

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 Post subject: Re: Vote fro Marshawn Lynch for greatest play of all time
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Don't vote for him! What about the greatest play of all time curse?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


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 Post subject: Re: Vote fro Marshawn Lynch for greatest play of all time
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10 mill vs 1.8 mill (Lynch) not looking good. Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong.


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