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  • This sounds like a reasonable deal that leaves us cap room to sign our own guys now. Our FO is brilliant, and it seems like this is a major FA destination with our recent success and team chemistry. Guys will take reasonable deals to come here, and the word is out: you won't take Seattle to the bank anymore.

    I just hope all the screaming at the coach and other garbage we heard about stays in Minnesota. Pete isn't a hardass like some coaches and I could see guys with Harvin's history try to take advantage of Pete's happy go lucky personality.
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  • Hawks46 wrote: Pete isn't a hardass like some coaches and I could see guys with Harvin's history try to take advantage of Pete's happy go lucky personality.


    I think players know not to mess with Pete.
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  • Hawks46 wrote:This sounds like a reasonable deal that leaves us cap room to sign our own guys now. Our FO is brilliant, and it seems like this is a major FA destination with our recent success and team chemistry. Guys will take reasonable deals to come here, and the word is out: you won't take Seattle to the bank anymore.

    I just hope all the screaming at the coach and other garbage we heard about stays in Minnesota. Pete isn't a hardass like some coaches and I could see guys with Harvin's history try to take advantage of Pete's happy go lucky personality.


    Pete has already demonstrated numerous times that he has no issue showing such players the door - $14.5M SB be damned.
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  • Hawks46 wrote:I just hope all the screaming at the coach and other garbage we heard about stays in Minnesota. Pete isn't a hardass like some coaches and I could see guys with Harvin's history try to take advantage of Pete's happy go lucky personality.


    Pete is as cut-throat as anyone in the business in making personnel/rotation decisions, and he surrounds himself with no-nonsense assistants. Doubt any player is causing a ruckus with Cable or any of the defensive coaches in earshot. Not to mention the culture he's cultivated among the players. Guys like Marshawn, Mike Rob, Big Red, etc. aren't going to be putting up with any nonsense on the sidelines or the lockerroom.
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  • HawkFan72 wrote:
    Does his signing bonus count against the cap? Cause that's another $12 million.


    Someone probably explained this already, but the bonus is prorated or the life of the contract, so the cap hit would be about $5million this coming year.
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    Yep - enough to get Desmond Bryant + one of Osi/Freeney/Abraham unless someone's price gets driven up too far in a bidding war.


    I'd really like to see the Hawks use some of the extra room to lock up one of our own to a longer deal like they did with Unger last year.


    The only critical piece even eligible for a long term deal this year is Kam Chancellor.
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  • Hawks46 wrote:Pete isn't a hardass like some coaches and I could see guys with Harvin's history try to take advantage of Pete's happy go lucky personality.


    Yeah, cause Pete was really soft on Lendale White, Mike Williams, TJ houshmanzada and . . . oh wait, he cut those guys when they got lazy or whinny?
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  • $4.9 cap hit for 2013 seems right to me.
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  • JGfromtheNW wrote:Good estimate of cap hit for 2013...

    You can see him down there at $4.9 :)


    Great screen grab! Can you provide the link for future reference to that site?
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  • Hawk Finn wrote:
    JGfromtheNW wrote:Good estimate of cap hit for 2013...

    You can see him down there at $4.9 :)


    Great screen grab! Can you provide the link for future reference to that site?



    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/

    That's the site. It is in the Salary cap thread that used to be stickied, but got unstickied for some reason recently. It's a pretty good site for salary information.
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  • Would've asked this in one of the Harvin threads, but it looks like they were both closed, and I don't think it deserves its own thread, so I'll just ask here.

    What happened to Kearse? I thought he was #11, but apparently that's Harvin's new number. Did I miss something?
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  • Whaaaa??? They done gone and done it now, takin' Jermaine's number. The Kearse just got lifted, fo' real.
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  • Does anyone have the GIF of Ponder throwing the ball like 3 yards off (to Harvin) on a bubble screen incomplete?
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Re: Predict Harvin's New Contract
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  • Wenhawk wrote:6 years $75 Mil, $25 M guaranteed, but written like a 4 year 40 M deal where the Seahawks have an out in year 5 or 6.


    was close with the 6 years, but way off on the guaranteed money. unless you add the injury guarantee. I hope it's structure so we can cut him after 4 years just in case.
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  • Natethegreat wrote:29 touchdowns (total including returns and rushing) over 4 years(7.5 a year) is good not great and he never broke a thousand yards receiving. For a guy who is being touted as an explosive game changer and being payed top tier money its a little high compared to actual production however it remains to be seen what he can do with Wilson throwing to him. We are not a pass heavy team so it just seems like overpay to me but not outrageously so.

    If you are only looking at stats and only stats when it comes to Harvin (let alone any player for that matter) then you just don't understand the value. Harvin IS the most explosive playmaker in the league arguably and all you have to do is simply WATCH the guy play and you will see that. He is so dynamic and probably the most versatile player in the league....can line up anywhere on the field and be a threat to take it the distance. He allows the offense to use him like a swiss army knife and trust me that defenses will be befuddled when having to keep an eye constantly on where he is at, worry about containing Russell, and also worry about having to stop Lynch. On top of that, he is the most dangerous return man in all of football. Just watch the guy play man and you will see why everyone is saying how fair this deal is. He honestly puts this offense over the top
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  • Can someone explain this?

    $11 million in 2014 (guaranteed for injury for now, fully guaranteed on fifth day of the 2014 waiver period)


    What exactly does this mean?
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  • NorthwestSportsFan wrote:I didn't think this deserved its own thread, but I didn't see if elsewhere. Looks like Harvin will be wearing #11.

    http://t.co/LPEEMDp4l6


    #11 was his High School number
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  • What is dead money? I'm unfamiliar with that term.
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  • its money you have to pay a player that you released.
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  • Spent money big we cut him today then we are paying that guaranteed.

    I really like the contract especially the guaranteed money split with the money I injure portion only. I also like a six year deal. A four or five then he would still be getting a secon big contract. Probably doesn't happen now. Finally pretty even spread over the years so stays incentivized.

    High cost in trade, fair contract overall good deal and it tells me Perxy wanted his payday BUT he wanted to be a part of a good team an a fair deal to all
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  • what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?
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  • Well let's be honest, who was throwing him the ball? Now he has RW. He will put up big numbers for sure.
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  • Ninerguy wrote:what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?

    Yes. Because he won't have to deal with an incompetent organization and come to a real one with a REAL quarterback.. He will break 1000 receiving yards this year easily, and you will witness it. Boldin? Idk. He hasn't had an 1000 year season since Arizona, soo.. there's that. (just throwing that out there)
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  • Ninerguy wrote:what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?


    Hard to say, given that we have Tate and Rice who will be sucking up a good amount of yardage as well. Also, Miller and Wilson seemed to have made a better connection near the end of the season, so that might take some yards away from the WRs too. But he can be such a weapon that I can't say he won't end up with 1000+ yards.
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  • Decimation wrote:
    Ninerguy wrote:what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?

    Yes. Because he won't have to deal with an incompetent organization and come to a real one with a REAL quarterback.. He will break 1000 receiving yards this year easily, and you will witness it. Boldin? Idk. He hasn't had an 1000 year season since Arizona, soo.. there's that. (just throwing that out there)


    I guess Favre wasnt a real quarterback...probably wont make it to the HOF right? Harvin may or may not have 1000 yds, I think he could do it.
    Im just asking your opinion, to get a feel for hawk fans expectations...btw, I do not expect Boldin to have 1000 yards at all, 8-900 will be fine! we still have Crabtree and Vernon Davis to feed the ball to, I am hoping Boldin is more os a redzone threat honestly
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  • Harvin doesn't need to hit 1000 yards. What he's going to add to this offense is a level of versatility and unpredictability that will be the tide that raises all ships. That's what he brings that somebody like Boldin certainly doesn't. He's taking an already explosive, versatile, unpredictable offense and pushing into the realm of absurdity.

    If you're just looking at Percy's stat line and thinking you've got an idea of what he does or what to expect, you're missing the point in an embarrassing way.
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  • i dont expect Harvin to have a 110 catch 1200 yard season like he would have last year, as one of the only weapons on his team.

    Wilson isn't that type of QB.

    I do expect one of PH's stats to be consistent though. Many of his runs, and catches, went for 1st downs. Among the league leaders in 1st downs gained in 9 games.

    That's more valuable to touchdowns then me if drives stay alive then somebody else can have the touchdown.

    I predict 800 yards receiving.
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  • Ninerguy wrote:
    Decimation wrote:
    Ninerguy wrote:what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?

    Yes. Because he won't have to deal with an incompetent organization and come to a real one with a REAL quarterback.. He will break 1000 receiving yards this year easily, and you will witness it. Boldin? Idk. He hasn't had an 1000 year season since Arizona, soo.. there's that. (just throwing that out there)


    I guess Favre wasnt a real quarterback...probably wont make it to the HOF right? Harvin may or may not have 1000 yds, I think he could do it.
    Im just asking your opinion, to get a feel for hawk fans expectations...btw, I do not expect Boldin to have 1000 yards at all, 8-900 will be fine! we still have Crabtree and Vernon Davis to feed the ball to, I am hoping Boldin is more os a redzone threat honestly



    You're absolutely right, Favre did throw to Harvin. In 2009, the year of health for Sidney Rice, Percy Harvin, and Brett Favre. Between the two WR's they amassed over 2,100 passing yards. So I would use that as a good meter since they are both on our team. :)

    Oh and he was on pace to hit over 1,200 yards last year. But he did get injured so who knows what really would have happened.
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  • That's a pretty good contract. I'm surprised that they were able to get him to agree to the injury provision in terms of the guaranteed money part.
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  • Ninerguy wrote:
    Decimation wrote:
    Ninerguy wrote:what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?

    Yes. Because he won't have to deal with an incompetent organization and come to a real one with a REAL quarterback.. He will break 1000 receiving yards this year easily, and you will witness it. Boldin? Idk. He hasn't had an 1000 year season since Arizona, soo.. there's that. (just throwing that out there)


    I guess Favre wasnt a real quarterback...probably wont make it to the HOF right? Harvin may or may not have 1000 yds, I think he could do it.
    Im just asking your opinion, to get a feel for hawk fans expectations...btw, I do not expect Boldin to have 1000 yards at all, 8-900 will be fine! we still have Crabtree and Vernon Davis to feed the ball to, I am hoping Boldin is more os a redzone threat honestly

    Farve was the QB throwing to PH, but Farve's main guy is also with us, Rice, that when he actually went to the ProBowl.
    The expectation of PH for me as a hardcore fan, i believe PH certainly at least participate in all play-off games and most of the season. Also, to answer your yardage question, i believe PH has to minimally get 1000 all purpose yards every year either through special teams, RB, WR, etc...
    But to specifically answer WR yards since most are answering it like that, i believe a 750-850 yards per year will be amazing considering that i believe he has to have 1000 all purpose yards and our style, this will be the ultimate running team with all of our weapons, they cannot stack the box anymore, like the rams, 9ers, and cards have been doing. Lynch will have a monster year with our line i think will probably add another probowler in maybe Carpenter, i see it in him.
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  • I think Percy Harvins versatility and explosiveness will be great for this offense but I doubt he goes for much more than 800 yards receiving and 9 or 10 touchdowns considering how run centric this offense is(and don't kid yourself Pete is and always will be run first). Not to mention Wilson is not going to suddenly stop throwing to Sidney Rice and Golden Tate. I'm thinking some here have some unrealistic expectations of what Percy will be able to do here. Not saying he won't be an asset that makes this team more explosive and harder to game plan for, but for what his actual numbers are (and probably will be here) I still think we are overpaying. But I guess you do what you have to get the piece you want.
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  • Ninerguy wrote:
    Decimation wrote:
    Ninerguy wrote:what are you the fans expectations for Harvins receiving yards, if he stays healthy, for 2013?

    He has never even had 1000 yards receiving in a season, are your expectations that he surpasses 1000 yards in 2013?

    Yes. Because he won't have to deal with an incompetent organization and come to a real one with a REAL quarterback.. He will break 1000 receiving yards this year easily, and you will witness it. Boldin? Idk. He hasn't had an 1000 year season since Arizona, soo.. there's that. (just throwing that out there)


    I guess Favre wasnt a real quarterback...probably wont make it to the HOF right? Harvin may or may not have 1000 yds, I think he could do it.
    Im just asking your opinion, to get a feel for hawk fans expectations...btw, I do not expect Boldin to have 1000 yards at all, 8-900 will be fine! we still have Crabtree and Vernon Davis to feed the ball to, I am hoping Boldin is more os a redzone threat honestly


    Harvin was with Favre for the first 2 years of his career. How many WRs excel in their first 2 years in the NFL? Answer: Not many.

    BTW, playing with a crappy QB last year, he was on pace to hit 116 receptions over the course of 16 games. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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  • Yeah, total receiving yards is not a good stat to gauge the production of our WRs in this offense. We're going to spread it around. We're going to run the ball. We're going to use Miller. Doug is going to continue to get snaps. Things are going to open up for Golden and Sidney on the edges. Harvin is also going to see his share of touches in various run packages.

    There is going to be a cumulative effect that Harvin has on the entire offense that goes far beyond his own receiving yards. Very possible for him to make a huge impact in this specific offenses while getting far less than 1,000 yards receiving.
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Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:26 am
  • Man I was so pumped for the Harvin deal, but today all I have heard and seen from the talking heads and media outlets is what a great trade the Niners made and how much better they are because of it and granted they are better with Bouldin. Yet for us it always seems to come back to the idea that we overpaid and all the potential negatives and attitude problems revolving around Harvin. Anyone else annoyed by the negative or more critical views of our trade as opposed to the Niners trade?
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  • Even I on the the outlay couldn't help but admire that Anquan Boldin was had for the second-to-last natural pick in the 6th. Regardless, after watching up on Percy Harvin and seeing him at the presser today I have no doubt that this deal will pay off in spades for the Seahawks over the course of YEARS. What an addition
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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:33 am
  • Couldn't care less what the media jabber is.

    All of the talk about compensation for either trade is fun, but we picked up an elite gamechanging playmaking young talent, the 9ers got an aging possession receiver type that doesn't really add anything they didn't already have.
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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:33 am
  • I'm so happy. Go to Seahawks.com and watch the press conference and harvins address to the fans... He is so excited to be a Seahawk and is obviously going to put everything he has into his time here. I think it could turn out to be the best trade we have had, next to lynch. I was kinda skeptical till I watched the videos and press conference.
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  • The best part of that deal is, if Boldin retires...SF loses their 6th anyway.
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Re: Wheres the love?
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  • All I want is for the media to love us.
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Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:19 am
  • Unconditionally. With all of their heart.
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Re: Wheres the love?
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  • I've seen a few things that indicate the Seahawks are not a well liked team seems like every move the seahawks make comes with scrutiny. I remember seeing picks made against seattle (in games)no matter how far they have come but i think it comes down to the way we have beaten some of the most well liked teams(Packers,Patriots,9ers,) in the NFL and when your favorite teams gettin beat you tend not to like the team thats doin it. It seems to me alot of these analysts favor those teams but i like it that way it gives our players that chip on their shoulder and that has been doin us just fine.


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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:20 am
  • bestfightstory wrote:Unconditionally. With all of their heart.


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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:45 am
  • Blitzer88 wrote:Man I was so pumped for the Harvin deal, but today all I have heard and seen from the talking heads and media outlets is what a great trade the Niners made and how much better they are because of it and granted they are better with Bouldin. Yet for us it always seems to come back to the idea that we overpaid and all the potential negatives and attitude problems revolving around Harvin. Anyone else annoyed by the negative or more critical views of our trade as opposed to the Niners trade?



    No cause its nothing new so why get worked up about it? I swear Blitz some people just look for something to worry/be insulted about. If we won the next 2 SBs the ninnirs would still get more print that we do.

    Its just more of the same, can't believe anyone here is worrying about it after the love the media has shown for RW.

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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:47 am
  • I actually kinda find myself a bit offput by the media hype. Don't want it, don't need it. Who cares what the talking heads say about this or that, we know the talent we have on our team, let our play speak to the world.
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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:10 am
  • I don't know what you're watching but Ive heard nothing but praise from the talking heads. Maybe its because I don't watch ESPN.
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Re: Wheres the love?
Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:14 am
  • Course the Niners are going to be cuddled until everyone else hurls...The Giants were the year before...etc etc. Conference Champions are going to get the resepct. We want it, gotta take it.
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