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 Post subject: Re: Florio speculates Sidney Rice may be released
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You can't justify the Harvin trade if they cut Rice, which means that guy has no idea what he's talking about. That would mean Seattle essentially gave up a 1st, 7th, 2014 mid-round pick, Leon Washington and Sidney Rice to acquire Percy Harvin. They can't possibly be that stupid.


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The only way we get rid of Sidney is if we draft a big WR and he outplays Rice either in TC or during the year and he makes Rice expendable

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Like Missing_Clink said, it's hard to speculate cap ramifications without knowing how much we're paying Harvin, and how it's structured.

I can see us needing to restructure Rice or Miller after next year, but we don't have a ton of FA needing to be signed, lots of our draft picks probably won't make the team, and we're saving a TON of money at certain positions, as has also been mentioned.

If we're paying Harvin what he wants though, then yeah, it's logical speculation. That's just too much money tied up in Harvin, Rice, and Miller.


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Florio is a complete Douche!! I deleted the PFT because I couldn't stand his speculatory crap. Plus, when he has an agenda, he is relentless about it in every post.


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Remember - cap now rolls over so cutting Rice today gives us room under the salary cap NEXT YEAR

I still don't think it happens and agree with DavidSeven then we gave up a first, fourth, seven and Rice for Harvin. There is trade value in Rice (I think :) )


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Notice that the "source" only gives details about Rice's contract and doesn't suggest anything about the team's thinking on it. Florio's trying to drum up drama.


East Coast "Drama Queens" have nothing better to do than irresponsible speculation.


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Not this year. Some other year where we have to worry about some of our current rookie deals.

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I think that Sidney may be asked to restructure his deal but even if he says no, he may be able to survive for this season w/o facing the possibility of being cut.

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Rice wouldn't even be the first guy to get approached about his contract anyway. Thankfully, this is just empty speculation by Florio. No smoke, no fire.


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Florio was also speculating that Percy Harvin's migraines were all fake earlier today.


Beat me to it. Florio's a schmuck. What he doesn't seem to care about is they have cap room THIS year. Rice and Miller's deals are much more cap friendly this year. If we're going all in to win now, it would be ridiculous to cut Rice. Look at his numbers with harvin and favre in minnesota.

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pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


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Having 2 small starting receivers would be against the Carroll philosophy on offense. We have no big guy to take Rice's place if released, if he was you'd have to figure they already have another big guy targeted somewhere.


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Why release him this season? What do we need the money for? Next off season re-evaluate maybe to resign Earl and Sherm but there's no point this year

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PK: Speculation people may be let go for salary, ripple effect.

PC: He's not taking anybody's spot, we're just adding guys in to get as many good players. We love what golden and sydney are doing for us, and those will be our top 4 and that is good news for us.

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pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


Here's the quote:

PC: One of our put out transcripts and I was raving about trying to stop him. He gets the ball so many ways and he is such a dangerous runner after the catch. They got it to him in a multitude of ways and one of the great things is that Bevell coached him into the league and respects the hell out of him. We're going to fit him and we have a really nice group with Sidney Rice, Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin. He does have some qualities - he carries the ball out of the backfield like a tailback and

Interviewer: Speculation people may be let go for salary, ripple effect.

PC: He's not taking anybody's spot, we're just adding guys in to get as many good players. We love what Golden and Sidney are doing for us, and those will be our top 4 and that is good news for us.


I guess we can lock this up now.


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Why release him this season? What do we need the money for? Next off season re-evaluate maybe to resign Earl and Sherm but there's no point this year


I guess it doesn't matter how many times it is said as people don't seem to get the concept. THE CAP SPACE ROLLS OVER TO NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!

that would be what we need the money for.

With that said - PC stated today what we all think. Rice isn't going anywhere but this doesn't change the fact that every dollar saved today is available tomorrow


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bryantology79 wrote:
pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


Leon Washington must feel pretty confused by that statement


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Missing_Clink wrote:
bryantology79 wrote:
pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


Leon Washington must feel pretty confused by that statement


I don't think he said it like that.


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Missing_Clink wrote:
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pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


Leon Washington must feel pretty confused by that statement


This interview took place after Leon was cut. The statement about not moving anyone else around came within the context of him discussing the top four receivers.


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Missing_Clink wrote:
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pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


Leon Washington must feel pretty confused by that statement



sorry, pete meant receiver-wise. i had a sandwich in one hand and cheetos debris on the other when i was typing.


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Florio is a complete Douche!! I deleted the PFT because I couldn't stand his speculatory crap. Plus, when he has an agenda, he is relentless about it in every post.


Yep, he was so incensed about the "Fail Mary" that was all he talked about last season, to the point where he's got a post all about "The Impact of the Fail Mary" less than two hours after our 42-13 beatdown of the Niners.

His latest agenda is pushing for the Redskins to change their team name.


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bryantology79 wrote:
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pete just said (on siriusXM) they are adding, not moving anyone around or out


Leon Washington must feel pretty confused by that statement



sorry, pete meant receiver-wise. i had a sandwich in one hand and cheetos debris on the other when i was typing.


Oh geez, there must be some interesting things growing on that keyboard!


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Florio is an idiot. Why would we do that when, in his last full season across from Harvin, Sidney had 1300 yards receiving. God, Florio is an idiot.

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Florio is either an idiot or a hater.

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If we release Rice, who would be one of our few big receivers that produces, then this trade starts to veer in the the stupid/foolish category.

I don't want this to be like the Vin Baker trade where we get some guy that we feel is a star with just a few problems, but that the cost of keeping means gutting a few players - players that turn out to be important. Any Seattle fans of any sport are probably conditioned to listen for the sound of the other shoe dropping...so maybe this is that.

But getting rid of Rice so that we can have a squadron of 4ft tall receivers does not sound wise.

I am already bothered we lost Leon, this would just grind it in.


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People talking about cuts in reaction to the Harvin trade don't take into account that trading Flynn and installing a decent backup QB at a backup's salary gives the Hawks a lot of bang for very few bucks at QB...

Makes sense to use a little of the cap space freed up by the QB bargain to give RW the best receiver corps they can get.

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I don't see that happening at all. Harvin likes him some Sid. This will be a reunion if anything and I'm looking forward to it.


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Pete and Percy discussed how much they were looking forward to having Rice, Tate and Harvin out on the field at the same time next season, so I don't think he's going anywhere (not that I ever did think he was)

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To me releasing Rice makes no sense

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Guys, there are already direct statements from Carroll quoted in this thread confirming they are keeping Rice (and Tate and Baldwin).


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Dude I would be pissed if we released Sydney Rice. I really hope he's just trying to conjure up something to write about out of thin air.


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Why release him this season? What do we need the money for? Next off season re-evaluate maybe to resign Earl and Sherm but there's no point this year


I guess it doesn't matter how many times it is said as people don't seem to get the concept. THE CAP SPACE ROLLS OVER TO NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!

that would be what we need the money for


I believe you are partially correct about that as some does but there are instant savings as well. Or else teams over the cap would be shit out of luck

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I missed it. Whst did Tate say about the Harvin deal? Florio made it sound that Tate wasn't happy about it.


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Tate was asked by Josina Anderson of ESPN, and he said

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"The Seahawks are trying to do whatever they think is necessary to put together a Super Bowl quality team. If this is one of the steps they think works to accomplish that, then that's their choice. I don't think it will impact any of our work habits. We are still going to grind and let the cards play out the way that they will," he said.


http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?w=1cp07& ... lot=1&wjb=

Doesn't seem too upset and I'm sure everything will be cool with Harvin is scoring points for us. Tate's a Seahawk he will be fine with this.

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Tate was asked by Josina Anderson of ESPN, and he said

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When asked about the trade, Seahawks receiver Golden Tate, whose spot on the Seahawks' depth chart will be altered with the addition of Harvin, told Josina Anderson that "it's a business."

"The Seahawks are trying to do whatever they think is necessary to put together a Super Bowl quality team. If this is one of the steps they think works to accomplish that, then that's their choice. I don't think it will impact any of our work habits. We are still going to grind and let the cards play out the way that they will," he said.


http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?w=1cp07& ... lot=1&wjb=

Doesn't seem too upset and I'm sure everything will be cool with Harvin is scoring points for us. Tate's a Seahawk he will be fine with this.


Much ado. Florio made it seem worse. I think it will make him better as Harvin will command the attention. Tate will ine up against the third corner in modt cases.


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Good God, someone kill this stupid thread already! It keeps popping back up to the top of the list when it's pathetically unrealistic. Unless of course people just want to gripe about Florio.

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I don't think he will, if you are suggesting he will be in the slot in 3 wide sets that is. I'm assuming it will be Harvin & Rice in two wide and Tate Harvin (slot) Rice in 3 wide.

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Um...No. AT least I hope not. Not this year. He was healthy enough last year and made some big plays. I don't think we go out there with just Baldwin, Tate, and Harvin. We need Rice's big plays.


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What do you suppose Florios' conduit to this insider information
that nobody else seems to have could be?

Sometimes I think these guys just throw something out there to
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Florio is a dolt. Couldn't carry Adam Schefter's BlackBerry...




What's a blackberry?


I agree with the consensus. Eventually, but not now.


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Hawks wouldn't be smart to release Rice. He's to big a play maker and would compliment Harvin nicely. Match up nightmare for other teams if we keep him along with harvin, tate, Baldwin, miller, lynch. That's a crazy list.

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I don't see it.

But we shall see.


Sadly, I do. He's getting paid a lot of money for middling production. He's good for stretching the field but his play style makes him an injury risk (he falls down hard after almost every catch), and Golden Tate is establishing himself as the bigger threat. Much as I'd love to see Harvin, Rice, and Golden on the field together, it seems likely that Rice is the odd man out.


'Sadly,' I think this post is over-dramatc and exhibits a narrow-mined view of how the offense evolved as the season progressed. Kinda 'sad' actually. He 'fell' soft enough to stay injury-free all of last season, so yeah, I can see where that's a hugh problem.

Who needs play makers anyhow when we have GT with his single, modestly-productive season. And Sid should have hooked up more often wth RW, cuz it's not like they were only working with 1/3 the reps they would normally get in preseason.

Maybe I should just mind meld with a mediot so I won't have to bore myself with all the details. This has been very enlightning. Thank you much.


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Florio is a dolt. Couldn't carry Adam Schefter's BlackBerry...




What's a blackberry?


Must be a typo. Only bruthas have them fruit.


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