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  • Got to think this spells the end for Obomanu at the very least. Washington, possibly. Flynn's position just got more tenuous, too, as the team will be looking to maximize cap room to accommodate Harvin plus the upcoming extensions we're going to be handing out to guys like Sherman, Wilson, Thomas, Okung, etc. in the next couple of years.

    Could also see asking Miller and Rice to restructure.
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  • SeahawksRawk wrote:I think it may be for to much, Love the fact we are trying to get this guy.

    But is it worth that much?


    Easily worth it, are you going to find someone with this much talent at their given position like Harvin? I don't think so, its BEAUTIFUL!
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  • I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?
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  • volsunghawk wrote:Got to think this spells the end for Obomanu at the very least. Washington, possibly. Flynn's position just got more tenuous, too, as the team will be looking to maximize cap room to accommodate Harvin plus the upcoming extensions we're going to be handing out to guys like Sherman, Wilson, Thomas, Okung, etc. in the next couple of years.

    Could also see asking Miller and Rice to restructure.


    I'm thinking the same, though not sure about Miller and Rice restructuring.
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  • 1st round pick for Percy - ok
    7th round - we got that for Tarvaris who we would have cut so - ok
    4th round conditional - absolutely ok if conditions are right. Dude stays injury free and plays great then I am ok with that price. Dude doesn't play no 4th round pick..........

    I still wished the trade was 1st round pick AND Flynn. would have made sense for both
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  • Experience in option offense? Check.
    Knows the offense from time with Bevell? Check.
    Young? Check.
    Makes the Hawks better immediately? Check.
    Playmaker? Check.
    Kick returner? Check.

    So far, so good. The first day of the draft is going to be boring, though.
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  • redhawk253 wrote:
    really liked the projection of bjorn woerner slipping to us at 25... he's gona be a poor mans jj watt.



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  • Didn't someone on here say they wanted to bring in a young WR that had the same work ethic as Russell Wilson to grow with him? How does Percy Harvin fit into that thought?
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  • mjwhitay wrote:My goodness, I love this deal! Wow. Percy Harvin is an elite talent in this league. Matching him with a talent like Wilson is a scary proposition for opposing defenses. I'd trade the 25th pick in the draft 100 times out of 100 times to acquire a one of a kind player like Percy Harvin.

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    Good luck, NFL.


    sorry but tate is as good as gone.. him and percy are redundant.. baldwin is better suited at the slot spot and cheaper.
    I think we'll hear more about running up the score this year. What a fun time to be a Seahawks fan. I HEART Schneider and Carroll. HEART them.
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  • redhawk253 wrote:its pending a contract negotiation and passing his physical...


    you guys do realize this likely spells the end for tate (who is a poor mans harvin) and leon washington... i dont think i like it but i will wait til i see the actual contract numbers and whether we get a 2nd rounder back in the trade or what...

    really woulda much rather went after wallace who woulda complimented our receiving core instead of getting percy who makes tate (one of our best up and comers who was huge for us last year.. and he is best friends with russell wilson.. them and their wives hang out all the time..) plus it means we are likely gona grab an aging vet to use as a bandaid on the d line...... really liked the projection of bjorn woerner slipping to us at 25... he's gona be a poor mans jj watt.


    Tate isn't going anywhere, unless he flounders in Training camp. We'll have Tate and Rice on the outside and Harvin in the slot (my guess anyway). This moves everyone down a notch in the depth chart though, and you can pretty much bet the farm that Obamanu is as good as gone unless he restructures for a minimal contract (basically allowing him to compete for the final slot).
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  • Tate aint going anywhere. Harvin is another WR that cant stay healthy.
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  • Happypuppy wrote:I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?


    nah tates as good as gone.. baldwin is better suited to the slot.. tate and harvin would be redundant.. harvin will line up in the slot at times as well im sure.. tate is a poor man's harvin he will be gone eventually...
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  • I don't see this as meaning an end to Tate. Harvin is a situational guy who Pete and Bevell will likely want to use in multiple ways all over the field. Get him in space, and it's all over for the opposing defense. Tate will still likely be the number two, full time receiver.

    This could be goodbye to Leon though.
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  • DJrmb wrote:Didn't someone on here say they wanted to bring in a young WR that had the same work ethic as Russell Wilson to grow with him? How does Percy Harvin fit into that thought?



    I think he got his money and will be happy. It is his #1 choice location , he knows the OC and Rice as well
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  • redhawk253 wrote:
    Happypuppy wrote:I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?


    nah tates as good as gone.. baldwin is better suited to the slot.. tate and harvin would be redundant.. harvin will line up in the slot at times as well im sure.. tate is a poor man's harvin he will be gone eventually...

    You're right, we only need 2 WRs plus Baldwin :sarcasm_off:
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  • redhawk253 wrote:
    Happypuppy wrote:I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?


    nah tates as good as gone.. baldwin is better suited to the slot.. tate and harvin would be redundant.. harvin will line up in the slot at times as well im sure.. tate is a poor man's harvin he will be gone eventually...

    Harvin played primarily in the slot. Tate is fine!
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  • Tate is an outside WR. Percy plays more out of the slot. If anyone is gone it's Baldwin.

    Now we have:
    Percy Harvin - The most broken tackles in the league for WR and the 5th most YAC!
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  • kidhawk wrote:
    redhawk253 wrote:its pending a contract negotiation and passing his physical...


    you guys do realize this likely spells the end for tate (who is a poor mans harvin) and leon washington... i dont think i like it but i will wait til i see the actual contract numbers and whether we get a 2nd rounder back in the trade or what...

    really woulda much rather went after wallace who woulda complimented our receiving core instead of getting percy who makes tate (one of our best up and comers who was huge for us last year.. and he is best friends with russell wilson.. them and their wives hang out all the time..) plus it means we are likely gona grab an aging vet to use as a bandaid on the d line...... really liked the projection of bjorn woerner slipping to us at 25... he's gona be a poor mans jj watt.


    Tate isn't going anywhere, unless he flounders in Training camp. We'll have Tate and Rice on the outside and Harvin in the slot (my guess anyway). This moves everyone down a notch in the depth chart though, and you can pretty much bet the farm that Obamanu is as good as gone unless he restructures for a minimal contract (basically allowing him to compete for the final slot).


    no way.. tate and harvin are redundant... most of the time harvin will be lining up on the outside along with rice.. baldwin is better suited for the slot position.. im sure harvin will line up there at times.. but tate is absolutely a poor mans harvin... we wont be able to pay him when his contract comes up they will attempt to get some value out of him before he just ends up leaving for free agency..
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  • Weird, had a ninner fan giving me crap this morning about how the ninners were going to get Harvin and how that would make them unstoppable on offense, if only I was psychic instead of psycho :roll:
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  • sc85sis wrote:This could be goodbye to Leon though.


    My thoughts exactly, you just beat me to the punch.
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  • redhawk253 wrote:no way.. tate and harvin are redundant... most of the time harvin will be lining up on the outside along with rice.. baldwin is better suited for the slot position.. im sure harvin will line up there at times.. but tate is absolutely a poor mans harvin... we wont be able to pay him when his contract comes up they will attempt to get some value out of him before he just ends up leaving for free agency..

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  • Chukarhawk wrote:Tate aint going anywhere. Harvin is another WR that cant stay healthy.


    He missed 1 game his rookie season.

    He missed 2 games his 2nd season.

    Didn't miss a game in 2011.

    An ankle injury (plus some friction with the HC, reportedly) landed him on IR last year.

    So prior to 2012, he had played in 45 of a possible 48 games.
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  • harvin lines up everywhere.. go back and see how bevell used him in minny.. he lines up on the outside a lot and he has speed.. so they are gona use him on the edge to try and take the top off... why do you think tate sounds so pissed off in the quote that was instantly taken from him after the trade was announced.. even tate knows the deal.
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  • Hawkfan77 wrote:
    redhawk253 wrote:no way.. tate and harvin are redundant... most of the time harvin will be lining up on the outside along with rice.. baldwin is better suited for the slot position.. im sure harvin will line up there at times.. but tate is absolutely a poor mans harvin... we wont be able to pay him when his contract comes up they will attempt to get some value out of him before he just ends up leaving for free agency..

    Can I make a suggestion? How about you not respond to everyone's posts with the exact response? It's kind of annoying



    how about you dont tell me what to do on the forums.. its kinda annoying.. i can hold multiple conversations with multiple people.. people like to be addressed specifically and not generally most of the time... so if you dont like it.. dont read my posts. giddeeeyaup
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  • sc85sis wrote:I don't see this as meaning an end to Tate. Harvin is a situational guy who Pete and Bevell will likely want to use in multiple ways all over the field. Get him in space, and it's all over for the opposing defense. Tate will still likely be the number two, full time receiver.

    This could be goodbye to Leon though.


    You don't spend first, seventh and conditional fourth for a situational guy. He will be a #1 receiver lined up on most offensive possessions
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  • I'm so on the fence about this. I hope this doesn't come back to bite us =(
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  • Deion Branch Trade 2.0

    The similarities between the two acquisitions are eerie.

    1) Production - has not produced like a true #1 WR. Look at the stats.
    2) Injury Risk
    3) Malcontent
    4) Size - below average. Hawks needed to get bigger at WR.
    5) Salary - wants #1 WR money even though he has not earned it.

    Other than #3 this looks like the Branch trade all over again. We got fleeced on this deal. If Harvin is worth a first rounder plus change then Megatron is worth 5 first rounders plus 25 million a year.

    Meanwhile, Reggie Bush was available for free, would cost less and is basically Harvin-lite. Utterly bizarre trade.
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  • And Tate/Bladwin are still on their rookie deals correct? They're safe.

    Nothing wrong with having 4 WR's.
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  • Thunderhawk wrote:Deion Branch Trade 2.0

    The similarities between the two acquisitions are eerie.

    1) Production - has not produced like a true #1 WR. Look at the stats.
    2) Injury Risk
    3) Malcontent
    4) Size - below average. Hawks needed to get bigger at WR.
    5) Salary - wants #1 WR money even though he has not earned it.

    Other than #3 this looks like the Branch trade all over again. We got fleeced on this deal. If Harvin is worth a first rounder plus change then Megatron is worth 5 first rounders plus 25 million a year.

    Meanwhile, Reggie Bush was available for free, would cost less and is basically Harvin-lite. Utterly bizarre trade.

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  • mikeak wrote:
    sc85sis wrote:I don't see this as meaning an end to Tate. Harvin is a situational guy who Pete and Bevell will likely want to use in multiple ways all over the field. Get him in space, and it's all over for the opposing defense. Tate will still likely be the number two, full time receiver.

    This could be goodbye to Leon though.


    You don't spend first, seventh and conditional fourth for a situational guy. He will be a #1 receiver lined up on most offensive possessions



    yup.. there ya go.. someone with some sense.. with what we are giving up for him and have to assume we're paying him... its plain as day.
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  • Thunderhawk wrote:Deion Branch Trade 2.0

    The similarities between the two acquisitions are eerie.

    1) Production - has not produced like a true #1 WR. Look at the stats.
    2) Injury Risk
    3) Malcontent
    4) Size - below average. Hawks needed to get bigger at WR.
    5) Salary - wants #1 WR money even though he has not earned it.

    Other than #3 this looks like the Branch trade all over again. We got fleeced on this deal. If Harvin is worth a first rounder plus change then Megatron is worth 5 first rounders plus 25 million a year.

    Meanwhile, Reggie Bush was available for free, would cost less and is basically Harvin-lite. Utterly bizarre trade.

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  • Thunderhawk wrote:Deion Branch Trade 2.0

    The similarities between the two acquisitions are eerie.

    1) Production - has not produced like a true #1 WR. Look at the stats.
    2) Injury Risk
    3) Malcontent
    4) Size - below average. Hawks needed to get bigger at WR.
    5) Salary - wants #1 WR money even though he has not earned it.

    Other than #3 this looks like the Branch trade all over again. We got fleeced on this deal. If Harvin is worth a first rounder plus change then Megatron is worth 5 first rounders plus 25 million a year.

    Meanwhile, Reggie Bush was available for free, would cost less and is basically Harvin-lite. Utterly bizarre trade.


    Harvin is about as similar to Deion Branch as I am.
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  • volsunghawk wrote:
    Chukarhawk wrote:Tate aint going anywhere. Harvin is another WR that cant stay healthy.


    He missed 1 game his rookie season.

    He missed 2 games his 2nd season.

    Didn't miss a game in 2011.

    An ankle injury (plus some friction with the HC, reportedly) landed him on IR last year.

    So prior to 2012, he had played in 45 of a possible 48 games.


    Beat me to it. His migraines are a thing of the past also. Football players get injured. Ryan Mathews is an example of a guy that can't stay healthy. Percy Harvin sprained his ankle last year. Big whoop.

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  • redhawk253 wrote:
    Happypuppy wrote:I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?


    nah tates as good as gone.. baldwin is better suited to the slot.. tate and harvin would be redundant.. harvin will line up in the slot at times as well im sure.. tate is a poor man's harvin he will be gone eventually...


    I don't understand this thought process at all... Green Bay has some "redundant" receivers, doesn't seem to be a problem there. Weapons are weapons. You see redundancy, I see versatility. We want our O line, linebackers and d lineman versatile, but receivers have to be slotted. You have to a slot guy, split end and flanker. Tate played outside and can play the slot, Harvin can do the same, even Sidney Rice played a little slot. There is a spot for Baldwin. Having too many weapons is a good problem.
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  • BAllenHawk wrote:
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    Happypuppy wrote:I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?


    nah tates as good as gone.. baldwin is better suited to the slot.. tate and harvin would be redundant.. harvin will line up in the slot at times as well im sure.. tate is a poor man's harvin he will be gone eventually...


    I don't understand this thought process at all... Green Bay has some "redundant" receivers, doesn't seem to be a problem there. Weapons are weapons. You see redundancy, I see versatility. We want our O line, linebackers and d lineman versatile, but receivers have to be slotted. You have to a slot guy, split end and flanker. Tate played outside and can play the slot, Harvin can do the same, even Sidney Rice played a little slot. There is a spot for Baldwin. Having too many weapons is a good problem.

    Because apparently we are only allowed to have 2 starting WRs and 1 slot WR...
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  • Strongly disagree with all the tate-hate... still think he's the best receiver on the team even with harvin
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  • BAllenHawk wrote:
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    Happypuppy wrote:I like it. A playmaker is priceless and if you have or find one you keep them. I see Rice, Tate Harvin in the slot I assume?


    nah tates as good as gone.. baldwin is better suited to the slot.. tate and harvin would be redundant.. harvin will line up in the slot at times as well im sure.. tate is a poor man's harvin he will be gone eventually...


    I don't understand this thought process at all... Green Bay has some "redundant" receivers, doesn't seem to be a problem there. Weapons are weapons. You see redundancy, I see versatility. We want our O line, linebackers and d lineman versatile, but receivers have to be slotted. You have to a slot guy, split end and flanker. Tate played outside and can play the slot, Harvin can do the same, even Sidney Rice played a little slot. There is a spot for Baldwin. Having too many weapons is a good problem.

    Redhawk doesn't seem to realize that we expect all of our WRs to be able to play every position.
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  • Thunderhawk wrote:Deion Branch Trade 2.0

    The similarities between the two acquisitions are eerie.

    1) Production - has not produced like a true #1 WR. Look at the stats.
    2) Injury Risk
    3) Malcontent
    4) Size - below average. Hawks needed to get bigger at WR.
    5) Salary - wants #1 WR money even though he has not earned it.

    Other than #3 this looks like the Branch trade all over again. We got fleeced on this deal. If Harvin is worth a first rounder plus change then Megatron is worth 5 first rounders plus 25 million a year.

    Meanwhile, Reggie Bush was available for free, would cost less and is basically Harvin-lite. Utterly bizarre trade.


    1) I think PC may know who Reggie Bush is. I am pretty sure he beats ALL of us at determining Reggie Bush's value.....
    2) While we may get a guy that sticks in the 7th round I don't see that as a real cost. That is just change doesn't matter. The 4th rounder is conditional so would mean we play him most of next year for sure so while he doesn't have to be great probably ok is enough to spend that. If he produces definately worth it
    3) You can't just look at numbers. Go look at Ponder playing. At one point I saw some writers wanting Ponder to have two of the worst EVER passes in 2012 alone. He is not a good qb and Minnesota has not had a good qb for the duration of Percy's time on that team.
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  • So we gave up a first round pick for Harviin, is it this years 25th it probably is but i haven't heard for sure yet. It was a first round pick though says JC.
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  • volsunghawk wrote:Got to think this spells the end for Obomanu at the very least. Washington, possibly. Flynn's position just got more tenuous, too, as the team will be looking to maximize cap room to accommodate Harvin plus the upcoming extensions we're going to be handing out to guys like Sherman, Wilson, Thomas, Okung, etc. in the next couple of years.

    Could also see asking Miller and Rice to restructure.

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