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 Post subject: Who will we sign in free agency?
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Free agency starts in 5 days. Who do you think we will sign?

I'll go with Desmond Bryant and Brian Hartline.

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Aren't Hartline and the Dolphins close to a deal? I would like to have Bryant though.

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Yeah that's the word...but we'll see. Not sure why anyone would want to play in Miami in that empty stadium - other than hot chicks, sun, South Beach, etc.

Ok, that's why. :twisted:

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Yeah that's the word...but we'll see. Not sure why anyone would want to play in Miami in that empty stadium - other than hot chicks, sun, South Beach, etc.

Ok, that's why. :twisted:


lol, Indeed.

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Desmond Bryant and a DE.

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I wouldnt want to pay the reported 6 mil/ yr Hartline is trying to get from the Dolphins right now.


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These two guys would make our Oline one of the best, if not thee best in the league.
This would make everyone else on the offense better, and help our young star QB stay healthy.
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Desmond Bryant and a DE.


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New- Dwight Freeney and Brandon Myers (TE Raiders).
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I know that it's out of the question considering our budget and what the team is already spending on Zach Miller, but I would love to take a run at Dennis Pitta, who is a RFA right now. I do understand that we have options in the draft and that the TE position is excellent in the first three rounds, but I think Pitta would excel as another option for Russell Wilson.

I think that our O-Line is loaded, so to those who are talking about tackles and guards, I respectfully submit that those are luxury picks. If everyone stays away from Jake Long, he could be an upgrade if we shift him to RT and let Giacomini back him up, but I'm sure that someone will take a chance on him even with his injury history because he is excellent when healthy.

I like the DT talent quite a bit in the draft, so after hopefully re-signing Jason Jones, I would focus on DE. What will Michael Bennett cost? Probably too much, but he's a high-motor guy that I liked when he was in camp with us as a rookie. Still, I would love to see him signed.

I also would like to take a run at Reggie Bush, cost permitting. He would be a nice change-of-pace back that could, along with Turbin, spell Lynch, and we could split him wide as well (and of course, if Leon Washington ever goes down, he is a fantastic option as a PR/KR).

However, this is more my wish list. I imagine that Schneider will re-sign Branch and Jones and then he will sit tight and not do too much to bring higher-profile players in, though the team may scour Cameroon for six-foot-four soccer defenders that they'll convert to WLB. :)

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That is neither a smelly nor ugly diagnosis of our FA needs, and I would agree with you except for the Pitta part.

Well done, Smelly McUgly.

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I know that it's out of the question considering our budget and what the team is already spending on Zach Miller, but I would love to take a run at Dennis Pitta, who is a RFA right now. I do understand that we have options in the draft and that the TE position is excellent in the first three rounds, but I think Pitta would excel as another option for Russell Wilson.

I think that our O-Line is loaded, so to those who are talking about tackles and guards, I respectfully submit that those are luxury picks. If everyone stays away from Jake Long, he could be an upgrade if we shift him to RT and let Giacomini back him up, but I'm sure that someone will take a chance on him even with his injury history because he is excellent when healthy.

I like the DT talent quite a bit in the draft, so after hopefully re-signing Jason Jones, I would focus on DE. What will Michael Bennett cost? Probably too much, but he's a high-motor guy that I liked when he was in camp with us as a rookie. Still, I would love to see him signed.

I also would like to take a run at Reggie Bush, cost permitting. He would be a nice change-of-pace back that could, along with Turbin, spell Lynch, and we could split him wide as well (and of course, if Leon Washington ever goes down, he is a fantastic option as a PR/KR).

However, this is more my wish list. I imagine that Schneider will re-sign Branch and Jones and then he will sit tight and not do too much to bring higher-profile players in, though the team may scour Cameroon for six-foot-four soccer defenders that they'll convert to WLB. :)


Nice first post... welcome!

I don't agree our O line is "loaded". There's room for improvement there, especially at guard. Our pass blocking needs to be upgraded big time, either by player or by design. Wilson had way too little time in the pocket a lot of times.

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no one, we will save cap space for next year when we have to resign everyone who is young and talented

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@Flying Greg, I really like our O-Line. I'm not sure about grades - I don't trust PFF, for example, but my impression was that SEA was a road-grading run-blocking team (and mucho credit for that should go to Zach Miller as well) but a mediocre pass-protection team.

The rankings on Football Outsiders, which I feel fairly comfortable using, bear that out: the OL was ranked third in run-blocking overall but 20th in pass-blocking overall according to their metrics.

However, I think that the line will improve as pass-blockers with additional coaching and experience. For example, J.R. Sweezy was a very, very good run-blocker at RG if memory serves me correctly, but he struggled in pass pro. Moffitt and Carpenter are young players as well that don't yet have the experience in pass pro to pick up some of the more exotic blitzing schemes that Seattle saw last year, particularly in-division from the Cardinals and Rams.

It is my contention that the pass-protection can be fixed mostly through more experience and Tom Cable's watchful eye helping to turn these guys into better pass blockers. I also believe that Carpenter is the best LG on the team if he can stay healthy. Again, this is to my unscientific eye, but he looked very good in all facets for the short time he played at LG.

I also very much love our depth on the line between McQuistan, Jeanpierre, and Moffitt. Even Omiyale played an admirable backup tackle last year.

However, I am always in the mood to upgrade! Someone mentioned Phil Loadholt earlier in the thread, but he was crucial to AP's excellent year last year, so he stands to make some very good money, and unfortunately, it will not be here. Again, I like Jake Long if we can get him cheap; he would be an immediate pass-pro improvement over the Big Russian. However, I think it's the interior line that needs to get better, and I would prefer to save the money and develop what we have, personally.

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A Football Outsiders reference by his 3rd post. An auspicious start.

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DT Vance Walker is someone I'd consider if Bryants price rises. Got an increased rotational role this year, good against the run, got praise from Mike Smith for his work at collapsing pockets also. 3 sacks in 2012, also 1 in the postseason on RW.

Made under 2 million on a 1 year deal with the Falcons.

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Outside of the box.. Donnie Avery.

Let me take a short cut around the "true #1" rhetoric.. we dont need one and the term has become worthless. Rice is good..Tate is good. Baldwin is good. Avery stretches the field, is cheap. Baldwin is a great slot guy, Rice is good overall guy, Tate is good.. this gives us something we dont have, something to truly stretch the field, doesnt break the bank and gives the offense an added dimension.

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These two guys would make our Oline one of the best, if not thee best in the league.
This would make everyone else on the offense better, and help our young star QB stay healthy.
Fingers crossed!


No. Loadholt is fairly awful, and I don't think guard is a big enough need.

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I doubt we make any big signings at all, even though there are a bunch of people I think could really help. I think they will roll over cap space and plan for all the coming big extensions


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I personally wouldn't mind seeing Desmond Bryant, Charles Woodson and/or Eric Winston.

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We'll probably be pretty quiet in FA this year as John Schneider has already stated he'd mainly focus on our own guys this year.

However I think we'll definitely bring in a pass rusher or 2 that the market is undervaluing. Pete and John like to sit back and let the market develop on guys then swoop in and snatch up under valued guys. So I could see someone like Richard Seymour or Cullen Jenkins waiting in the wings as teams go after the big names and young hot shots. Desmond Bryant wasn't getting a lot of play but it seems it's ramped up on him recently so we may be out on him. Sammie Lee Hill from Detroit could be another under the radar type guy. I have read that he could be a solid up and coming 3-tech, but the Lions are just so deep on the D-line that he hasn't gotten much playing time. Also don't count out Jason Jones on another 1 year deal.

I think with one of the DT's we'll probably also bring in a DE/OLB type of guy. I liked Freeney but he's been in the headlines a lot and may be out of our range. Osi Umanyiora has kind of been quiet recently so maybe he's a fit. I do like Shaun Phillips too. Guys like Avril and Michael Bennett are interesting but will likely be some of the popular guys. Also Connor Barwin could go either way, if he's neglected in FA I'm interested.

Who we end up with? I think Seymour and Phillips are brought in to compete with some Rookie's we draft and we take the stance "let the best man win".


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Vince Young, Vince Young, Vince Young

The only problem I see with him is that if we sign him prior to trading Flynn then everyone knows we want to get rid of Flynn and trade value drops.........

Which is why SF made sure they made a deal so that they can sign Vince Young. I expect Charlotte to go after him hard as well


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Imo, Young's ship has already docked and will be shown to not be seaworthy. Head cases don't suddenly change their stripes.

And I'm guessing that John and Pete have already established their values on every FA that they are interested in.

I don't expect them to move fast, but rather to wait and watch as the FAs' prices start coming down to their real values in the league... and then they'll pounce.

I expect at least two Hawks signings toward the end of week 1 of free agency... maybe a bit later than that.

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Free agency starts in 5 days. Who do you think we will sign?

I'll go with Desmond Bryant and Brian Hartline.




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I'd love to see either Urlacher or Ed Reed.

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i would like to see us sign these free agents and make our front seven dominant
1 jason jones
2 Richard Seymour (more athletic branch)
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Adrian Wilson & Osi?


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Wartooth wrote:
Phil Loadholt | Right Tackle
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These two guys would make our Oline one of the best, if not thee best in the league.
This would make everyone else on the offense better, and help our young star QB stay healthy.
Fingers crossed!


No to Vasquez. He was a turnstile in San diego. Anyway isn't the Saint's left tackle a free agent too? If so I'd think he would be the better get.


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Desmond Bryant
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Osi (loaded with incentives contract)
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Looks like Boldin and the Ravens are going to part ways.

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what if Victor Cruz is available? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... -to-be-cut


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We will have two russels Wilson and Jamarcus the 5'10 can teach the 7'0. Haha

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Victor Cruz or Boldin would be great in my book. If you spend some money there - I think you can spend without overspending Boldin is getting cut from a $6 million deal.........(so would that hit the waiver wire - not sure what our standing is there right now)

If we get those I simply don't see any issues that has to be addressed on the offensive side of the ball.

Which means we have 10 draft picks to focus on the defensive side / trade for better picks - granted there will be some offensive picks but not early on


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I doubt we make any big signings at all, even though there are a bunch of people I think could really help. I think they will roll over cap space and plan for all the coming big extensions


Agreed 100%. I doubt we will go after any big free agents. I think that the team is looking more forward to the draft and saving cap space to re-sign players next offseason.

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Thanks for posting the link.

The most interesting thing from that read is the bigger picture. The veterans and owners wanted the rookie salary cap in place because first round picks were getting WAY to much money. I don't disagree and I get it look at Bradfords and JaMarcus contracts and they are a joke for unproven player.

What is really interesting is that these LOCKED in rookie contracts for 2nd through 7th round picks like RW and Sherman is changing the landscape for veterans in a way that nobody (that I have read) anticipated.

Stars are getting the big money - Brees, Flacco, Revis etc. That didn't really change except it looks like if anything there is even more room for them.

The grinders the solid to good performers are not getting their money. This is probably a mix of the relatively flat salary cap (consider that contracts are getting more expensive at the tail end and a salary cap that doesn't go up is not a good combination) and the fact that you now get rookies at contracts that are locked in for 3 years very cheaply. Why pay the guy with 8 sacks when you can probably find him in the draft for pennies on the dollar.

It will be an interesting long term development. I personally think they need to put incentive clauses into the CBA for rookie contracts. Fixed amounts based on certain metrics and that would change things to better for everyone


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Desmond Bryant and perhaps John Abraham.
With Harvin I don't see spending anything significant on a tight end unless there market is super dry.

Outside shot at Phillip Wheeler to replace Hill or Charles Woodson. We have a lot of draft picks and are good at finding lb's and secondary in the draft so it isn't necessary, but both would be nice pieces.


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