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Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:17 am

Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:58 am
  • As someone who is in the same field, and age my condolences go out to this man and his family. Good men are lost all the time due to understaffed jails and prisons. Its a sad thing when budget cuts and saving a buck outweighs the safety of the men who put there lives on the line to keep our streets safe. God bless this family from my family and a fellow 12th man!
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:01 am
  • We have some Erics as members, hope this wasn't one of them. All you Erics check in please.

    But Member or no, what a sad ending.

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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:08 am
  • Tough job. Single officer, working alone with 130 high-risk criminals with zero protection. Didn't know the region until I looked it up. This was in Pennsylvania. R.I.P Officer Williams
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:26 am
  • YaktownHawK wrote:As someone who is in the same field, and age my condolences go out to this man and his family. Good men are lost all the time due to understaffed jails and prisons. Its a sad thing when budget cuts and saving a buck outweighs the safety of the men who put there lives on the line to keep our streets safe. God bless this family from my family and a fellow 12th man!

    Without turning this political......agree 100% with everything you said. Prayers to/for the family.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:51 am
  • This is just awful...I have several friends who are correction officers and all of them are feeling the crunch of understaffing and long hours. Tough gig. My condolences to his family.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:00 am
  • Godspeed Brother

    Edited *for spelling correctness*
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:19 am
  • God Bless him and his family. I work in an area where men and women like him keep us safe, and we are always grateful for the stressful and risky work that they do.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:32 am
  • Brahn wrote:God Speed Brother


    What does this mean?? I have never understood it.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:56 am
  • bestfightstory wrote:
    Brahn wrote:God Speed Brother


    What does this mean?? I have never understood it.


    Were you born in the Dakotahs or something. How do you not know? :roll:

    I dunno either but is actually quite popular around here.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:36 pm
  • bestfightstory wrote:
    Brahn wrote:God Speed Brother


    What does this mean?? I have never understood it.


    He obviously means that he hopes that Eric has a safe and fast trip to Heaven... Not a bad thing at all... God Speed, means a safe journey wherever....
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:49 pm
  • bestfightstory wrote:
    Brahn wrote:God Speed Brother


    What does this mean?? I have never understood it.


    One needs only to use google on your posting machine to find the answer you seek with much more ease!

    To wish someone Godspeed is to ask for God's blessings on his or her endeavor, most notably a long journey or a risky but potentially rewarding venture. Some view godspeed as a more reverent alternative to "good luck," which arguably introduces chance and randomness into the mix, not divine providence. One might wish Godspeed on a relative embarking on a long business trip overseas, for example.

    The confusion over the meaning of Godspeed, which may also be rendered as god-speed or even goodspeed, lies in the definition of speed. The original meaning of the Old English word speed had nothing to do with velocity, but rather prosperity and good fortune. The addition of God to the concept of financial bounty may sound jarring at first, but the word Godspeed was an acknowledgment of God's generosity and blessing. Speed in that sense was the righteous acquisition of wealth and property through hard work and reverent behavior.

    Some sources suggest that the word Godspeed may have been a corruption of "good speed," a wish for a speedy journey aided by favorable winds and sailing conditions. Under this theory, the expression good speed eventually became god-speed and ultimately Godspeed. The application of a Deity's name was simply a happy accident. Indeed, there are some recorded incidents of "good speed" being used as a blessing for ship-bound passengers.

    The Middle English translators of the Holy Bible also used the term Godspeed in several passages, primarily in the Old Testament to indicate a God-inspired prosperity. This would suggest two separate evolutions of the expression, based on two different translations of the word speed. To wish someone Godspeed would be to wish him or her a prosperous journey or successful endeavor, while to wish someone goodspeed would suggest a swift and safe trip.

    The expression Godspeed has largely fallen out of popular usage, and is generally listed as archaic in many dictionaries. Some still use it as a more theological blessing than a simple "good luck" or "bon voyage," although the original meaning has been forgotten in the mists of time.

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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:54 pm
  • Wow. He was just the 25th corrections officer to be killed since 1901. Talk about unlucky.

    I am hardly a gun nut, far from it, but correction officers should be armed. I believe police officers now have guns that only work when held by the officers own hand or something. Very safe. Also, it's probably a bad idea to have guards on solo duty.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:59 pm
  • Allweatherfan wrote:Last week a Federal Corrections Officer was killed by an inmate. As news is unfolding about this, I just read the following article which identifies him as a die-hard Seahawks fan. I mention this because there is the chance that he was a member on this board. If any knew him I am sure you were better for it.

    http://citizensvoice.com/news/nanticoke-corrections-officer-killed-by-inmate-1.1450628


    Allweather, are you from northeastern PA?

    Eric was from my area but, I did not know him. My heartfelt sympathy goes out to his family and friends.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:45 pm
  • I provide support for Canaan but I don't work there. I live in Oregon and work for the BOP but not as an officer anymore. I travel around to several different prisons but I am based in Oregon.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:43 pm
  • kearly wrote:Wow. He was just the 25th corrections officer to be killed since 1901. Talk about unlucky.

    I am hardly a gun nut, far from it, but correction officers should be armed. I believe police officers now have guns that only work when held by the officers own hand or something. Very safe. Also, it's probably a bad idea to have guards on solo duty.



    Years ago they did but it was determined that if the guard was armed and overpowered the prisoners would then have a weapon.

    I had a personal friend who was a Presbyterian Minister pay his way through Seminary being a guard at San Quentin. Always thought it was a strange way for a man of God to get religion.

    He never carried a gun and was in the general population all the time.

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Re: Unfortunate event
Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:37 pm

Re: Unfortunate event
Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:32 am
  • The Radish wrote:
    kearly wrote:Wow. He was just the 25th corrections officer to be killed since 1901. Talk about unlucky.

    I am hardly a gun nut, far from it, but correction officers should be armed. I believe police officers now have guns that only work when held by the officers own hand or something. Very safe. Also, it's probably a bad idea to have guards on solo duty.



    Years ago the did but it was determined that if the guard was armed and overpowered the prisoners would then have a weapon.

    I had a personal friend who was a Presbyterian Minister pay his way through Seminary being a guard at San Quentin. Always thought it was a strange way for a man of God to get religion.

    He never carried a gun and was in the general population all the time.

    :les:


    That's why they need to be armed, but with something that could not be life threatening- something like pepper spray.
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Re: Unfortunate event
Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:02 am
  • The Radish wrote:
    kearly wrote:Wow. He was just the 25th corrections officer to be killed since 1901. Talk about unlucky.

    I am hardly a gun nut, far from it, but correction officers should be armed. I believe police officers now have guns that only work when held by the officers own hand or something. Very safe. Also, it's probably a bad idea to have guards on solo duty.



    Years ago the did but it was determined that if the guard was armed and overpowered the prisoners would then have a weapon.

    I had a personal friend who was a Presbyterian Minister pay his way through Seminary being a guard at San Quentin. Always thought it was a strange way for a man of God to get religion.

    He never carried a gun and was in the general population all the time.

    :les:


    Of course. Didn't any of you see Police Acedemy 2?

    Oh, BTW... Canadian Eric checking in. Alive, well and only slightly intoxicated. :th2thumbs:
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Re: Unfortunate event
Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:40 am
  • CANHawk wrote:
    Oh, BTW... Canadian Eric checking in. Alive, well and only slightly intoxicated. :th2thumbs:

    "Slightly"? Pussy. You need to drink more then. :D
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Re: Unfortunate event
Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:48 am
  • There have been more and more events in prisons of this nature, the young lady in Monroe a few years agon here in Washington, Prisons cutting budgets cut back on gaurds like schools with teachers, more inmates and over population for fewer teachers and gaurds to keep track of and or educate.

    It doesn't take but a few seconds for a few inmates to incapacitate one person given the weapons that can be made in prison from toothbrushes and other basic items crafted or smuggled in. More crowded more tension more animosity, Gaurds are the authority there and get the brunt of it.

    Some of the deaths that have happened the state has just said we will invetigate, yet nothing changes much, a few more cameras here and there and back to business.
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