Scottemojo wrote:Kip, your idea makes sense for the Seahawks. Also, like Tical said, nobody is trading for Revis without having already negotiated a deal. And the Jets won't trade him for a conditional pick, what if your new rental player blows out his other knee and you don't re-sign him then? That scenario would never let the Jets do the deal for a conditional thing. The 2nd pick in the deal might be conditional, like the Alex Smith trade.
Right now, the Jets are treating his potential trade like his Franchise Tagged. Two firsts. That is where negotiations start. We have two problems. Number one, San Fran has more to spend in the draft than we do, and it is this year's picks they have to spend, not 2014. So your offer makes Seattle a leverage partner, and nothing else. With the desperate state of the coach in New York, 2014 picks might as well be 2025 picks. They need cheap players right now, not next year. There is no offer we can make that the Niners cannot outshine, unless players are part of the deal. And the Niners need him more than we do, so they would escalate us out of the talks. WHich is good, if they are going to trade for him, we need to make them pay for the privilege by making them overpay.
Here is my question to Kip. Stop trying to delay the pain of the trade by making it about 2014 picks. Would you trade this year's 1st and next year's conditional second for Revis? Or this year's second and next year's first? Or even our first two picks this year?
I think you missed the point of this thread. Don't worry, everyone did.This thread is about where the Seattle Seahawks draw the line
. It's about deciding what is the maximum cost for Revis where a trade starts to make sense from Seattle's vantage point. If that maximum price is beat out by another team, then sayonara Revis. Best of luck in Cleveland or whatever shithole wants you too much.
I am also not quite sure a contract extension with the trade is a slam dunk either. Revis is asking for $16 million, and he seems like the type that would go to the open market to prove his point if you disagree with him. This difficulty could end up killing Revis' trade value, since teams aren't going to give that kind of money and Revis probably isn't going to sign for less outside of hitting free agency. If you trade for Revis, you are probably getting a rental unless you are just fine with paying him crazy money.
As you showed with that Kirwan article, it's the Jets who are in the tough position here. Trading Revis for two high picks is tough the same way that trading Browner for two high picks would be. But if you lower the demands, it gets easier. It's all about pricing. At a certain price, eventually a team or two will decide he's worth it. If you offered Revis for a 3rd rounder straight up every other team in the NFL would be on the phone.