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 Post subject: Re: Fresh Seahawk QB news
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I think the success of all these young QB's is going to hurt Flynn's trade value this year, what with college QB's coming out ready to start from day #1. No longer is the norm to draft and develop and go sign another team's backup while that happens.

The trend is now to go out and find your own young dynamic QB. This way you don't have to give up draft picks for guys like Smith and Flynn, you don't have to absorb their contracts either.


Except unlike last year, this years crop is crap. The reason Flynn only had 2 teams approach him last year was because of last years draft class. This year, not so good. I foresee at least 5 teams in the market for a free agent QB.


True, one of the weakest QB classes ever. But that doesn't mean a lot of NFL execs won't think they can draft a QB over trading for an unproven backup making 5-6 million like Flynn.

My point is 2-3 years ago I think we could have got a #2 or #3 round pick for Flynn. Now? Probably more in the 4th or 5th round pick range.

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With all the recent talk about how this is a weak QB class, I'll be surprised if we don't trade Flynn somewhere. Honestly, I'd like to see him go start on a team with a decent team around him. I think he could be a pretty good QB, he just needs his shot.

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These reports aren't completely new. i think Pete and John's said all this at their end of the season press conferences and/or interviews. Worth bringing up, though. I think the Seahawks would love to move Flynn's contract for some picks and find a backup similar to Wilson, but that's easier said then done. I haven't completely shut the door on Flynn, yet, though I'd like to see him traded.

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BINGO, Tebow would be the answer! But at what price? Tim's skill set is the same as Wilson!


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Who was the unquestioned leader of not only the offense but the team when TJ was QB? Yeah, another skill set that he doesn't possess.

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BINGO, Tebow would be the answer! But at what price? Tim's skill set is the same as Wilson!


Flip a comp 7th for Tebow and it'd be fine for each side, I'd imagine.

Tebow can only REALLY throw in improv/readnreact type offenses. He'd still be inaccurate, but not as much in a scenario where he mimicked Wilson's time.


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Tim's skill set is the same as Wilson!


I agree as long as we exclude accuracy, grasp of offensive schemes and how to read NFL defenses.

Personally I do not want the Tim Tebow circus in Seattle. I'd rather just draft another young QB in the Wilson mold, or get a veteran like T-Jack.

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Writing, meet wall. That definitely sounds to me like bye bye, Mr. Flynn.

And I was THIS close to buying a Flynn jersey right after the new uniforms came out!

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Hmm, T-bow... T-Jack? Get um both signed after we trade Flynn to the highest bidder. Just playing around here- but could you see RW in the shotgun with Tebow in the backfield or vise verse?


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Info from ESPN.com Tebow completed 75% of his passes in 2012...If the jets were not flat out retarded, they would have played him more.

That 75% makes him one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL last year by about 7%...He is one solution to the problem


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i rather see teebow here than TJ... and preferably neither...

if memory serves me correctly only thing i remember about TJ is that he held the ball too long and took way too many sacks... other than a strong arm, i don't see any similarities with him and RW...

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Info from ESPN.com Tebow completed 75% of his passes in 2012...If the jets were not flat out retarded, they would have played him more.

That 75% makes him one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL last year by about 7%...He is one solution to the problem

Not sure if sarcasm..I'm actually for the possibility of adding Tebow, but I'd never try to say he's an accurate passer. Didn't he go just 6-8 in 2012? Come on man, you can't use those numbers. Heck at least one of those completions was a 3 yard pass against us!

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I said it elsewhere and I guess I will say it here. Vince Young is a much better fit. The guy can throw the ball, has won in the NFL and can run the ball. I personally think it helps that he got millions and is now BROKE. That should motivate him to stay on best behavior and be valuable to the team

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Info from ESPN.com Tebow completed 75% of his passes in 2012...If the jets were not flat out retarded, they would have played him more.

That 75% makes him one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL last year by about 7%...He is one solution to the problem


I'm assuming this is tongue-in-cheek? :?

He completed all of 6 passes last year (out of 8 attempts), for a total of 39 yards. That's less than 5 ypa, which means he basically just threw dump offs.

So that fancy looking 75% means jack sh*t.

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Good grief. All this Jackson talk is mind blowing. Yes he has a strong arm and yes he has guts but if you don't know where and when to throw the damn ball that does you no good. As for as his legs go didn't he get hurt trying scramble out of the pocket? If he was all that great wouldn't he be starting somewhere. The Jackson lovers make out like he did great here. Seems like they have forgotten about all the drives he killed and why the defense was on the field so much of the time. He needs to stay gone.

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Do you want to lie and make up numbers or go off what really happened? He did what he was asked and that happened to be more then any other QB, so Yes I will use the true information.

Who is more proven in the NFL, Mr comeback kid Tebow, or 4 games Flynn? Flynn did pretty good with his contract.

PC said he wants a Wilson Jr. and Tebow is pretty close.


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Need more short guys! Go get Kellen Moore!

JK, but what about this Zach Collaros guy? IIRC there were a couple draftnicks that were kinda high on him. Never watched him play myself, but reading the write ups on him from last year's draft he definately sounds like he fits the Russell Wilson mould...

He's currently in the mix to back up Ricky Ray for the Toronto Argonaughts. There's a couple of young NFL castoffs serving as back ups in the CFL right now who could fit the bill, but this Zach dude sounds like a fit.

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Draft for need in the first two rounds, then a QB in the 3rd. It worked last year.

Dear draft gurus, who has the same skill set as RW in this years draft?

No thanks on that idea

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That post was mostly a joke, but that idea has worked in the past for us:)
I think Wilson was just to good of a value to pass up in the 3rd round and PC/JS thankfully pulled the trigger.


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I see a PC / Matt Barkley reunion ahead. Can't belive this has not been discussed here already. If so, guess I missed it.
Think about it, trade Flynn get more draft picks, save his cap hit. And get Barkley on a dime.

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Tebow? And here I thought this thread had some potential to not be a horrific waste of time

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If Flynn departs I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in any old veteran backup available while taking a long hard look at Josh Portis and what he can do, especially if Flynn departs early because I wouldn't put it past a guy like Russell Wilson to then look to the next man up in Portis and really work with him to groom him into his backup.

Don't be shocked if it's something out of left field.

I could see the seahawks signing say, Rex Grossman and letting him and Portis duke it out for the 2nd string QB spot, while also possibly drafting a rookie.

I'm not saying I want Grossman i'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked if that's the kind of guy we bring in. And lets not forget last time we saw Grossman, it was in Seattle, beating Tjack who seems incapable of playing football in the 4th quarter.


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A late 2nd for Matt would be a fun/solid pick imho. I am not sure he will make it to the late 2nd round, and we have other needs for the 1st round.


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Also lets take a moment to count our blessings, I stopped by a Cardinal's forum today and one of their hot topics was "Drew Stanton as starting QB?"

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Tebow? And here I thought this thread had some potential to not be a horrific waste of time


I'm waiting for us to sign Dark Tebow - the man Tim Tebow will become when he realizes the world has forsaken him and his goodness and he just says to hell with it.

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Tebow? And here I thought this thread had some potential to not be a horrific waste of time


Hating is for 3rd grade girls, lets be above that. The dude does everything he has been asked. Work the pure hate on a different thread and your keen NFL knowledge on this one...thank you.


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Denard Robinson 4th-5th round, trade Matt, trade Leon, batta bing batta boom.

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T-Jack would be a pretty fine backup QB. Not a great starter but for what Seneca was making ($2-$4 mil/year) he would absolutely be worth it.

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Denard Robinson 4th-5th round, trade Matt, trade Leon, batta bing batta boom.



soooo..cut loose your better than average backup and the best return man in the nFC and replace him with a guy who is too inaccurate to be a QB, can't play receiver, and just have him be your 3rd down back/kick returner and hope that he figures those things out better than he did in the sr. bowl?

Something tells me that's a terrible idea.


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TJack did absolutely nothing in the clutch, not sure why having him here would all the sudden make him win games. Oh well, until it happens, not gonna' get worked up about it :)

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It's starting to smell more and more like Flynn is going to be moved for picks during the draft. Keep an eye out for discounted Matt Flynn jerseys at a sporting goods store near you.

TJack wouldn't be a horrible option, but we "bin dere, done dat" with him. There's no real upside to that signing, but I think he'd be a "safe" signing. ...but Pete and John seem to hate safe.

I don't think Barkley's going to be in the mix. Yes his draft stock has slipped incredibly since last year, but he's a pro ready QB and he'll gain a ton of ground after the combine I reckon. He'll be a second round pick at worst, maaaaybe a third. Regardless he'll be worth more than we're willing to spend on a back up. If he's around in the 4th though, I can see Pete grabbing him.

Tebow's left handed, so therefore an abomination and quite possibly the antichrist. That and he throws a football like he's trying to shot put a roasted duck (ie. he makes Golden Tate's passes look like Dan Marino's). I'd totally sign him to play H-back though.

I wouldn't put it past them to bring in VY for a look see.

Portis fits the bill and has a few seasons under his belt. I can totally see him winning a back-up QB competition in the off season.

I can totally see them bringing in somebody straight out of left field though too. Like somebody from Canada or the Arena league. It'll be interesting either way, but I pray to god we only see the dude play after being on the happy end of 40 point blow outs.

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It's starting to smell more and more like Flynn is going to be moved for picks during the draft. Keep an eye out for discounted Matt Flynn jerseys at a sporting goods store near you.



Matt Flynn Jerseys have been discounted since about the midpoint of the season (if not a little earlier). I'm sure they made them with the thought that he was the starter and boy were they surprised when that didn't happen

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If Tahj Boyd slips? maybe? Matt Scott? thats just the draft though...

Josh Portis is still out there... :)


Tahj Boyd is staying at Clemson for his senior season. Matt Scott would be a good option for us though in the later rounds.

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No thanks to T-Jack or Tebow. This team cannot risk this incredible era on either one of those guys. Frankly, I don't think there is another Russell Wilson out there. The Hawks need someone that can throw the ball and throw it well.

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Great news! There is zero chance we draft Matt Barkley. Zero. PC has proven that he has no fanatical allegiance to SC players. Further, Pete certainly realises what the NFL is slowly learning; SC QBs get maxed out while at USC and make for lousy NFL QBs. Further yet, if Pete is looking for a QB that is comparable to Wilson, Charles Barkley isn't much further from that than Matt Barkley. I like the heck out of Barkley, but he will bust...bank on it.

No to T-Jack as well. Hell no, actually. Some will say he has legs and that somehow translates to a Wilson type QB. He and Wilson could have the exact same measureables and T-Jack would be miles behind Wilson. What we saw with Wilson was an uncanny ability to make quick decisions, then act upon those decisions at break neck speed. T-Jack would just break his neck if expected to do the same.


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Except unlike last year, this years crop is crap. The reason Flynn only had 2 teams approach him last year was because of last years draft class. This year, not so good. I foresee at least 5 teams in the market for a free agent QB.

That, and the ongoing Peyton Manning saga.

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T-Jack sucked. He took an awful offense and only squeezed as many wins out of it as Ring of Honor man Matt Hasselbeck. What a LOOOOOOSER. Some people need to lighten up. He's not Johnny Unitas, but he's not Art Schlicter either. He's a competent backup QB that is tough as hell and a good teammate. I didn't see Russ miss any snaps last year except when we were blowing people out. I think T-Jack and Russ would work well together. Who knows... maybe Russ could even teach T-Jack a thing or two. Guys have been known to pick things up when around supportive teammates. Many NFL QB's don't hit their peak for many years. I heard plenty of guys whine and gripe endlessly when their beloved 49ers gave up jack and squat for Steve Young the "run first turnover machine of Tampa Bay". Some guys need better coaching, better teammates, better situations, and they do fine. I'd love to have T-Jack back for the record, because I think he'd be a good influence on Russ. How? Because he wouldn't be pressuring him to be the starter. He'd be a supportive backup and help carry the load as a team leader because the team already respects the heck out of the man. Leadership is good. Even if it's coming from your second stringer, because he leads the 2nd's and preps them for action when needed. Next man up is prepared, because they play with a leader in practice.

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The answer is in the draft...EJ Manuel in the fourth round.


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The answer is in the draft...EJ Manuel in the fourth round.


That's the problem with the 12 draft (plus Kaep). Traditionally, I'd expect Manuel to be there in the 4th (maybe not 25th in the 4th but....) but after the league witnessed an assload of wins by these rooks (plus Kaep), I won't be shocked if Manuel is gone by the time we pick in the 3rd (or even 2nd). Great idea though...if he was sitting there when we pick in the 4th, we'd have to take him.


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T-Jack sucked. He took an awful offense and only squeezed as many wins out of it as Ring of Honor man Matt Hasselbeck. What a LOOOOOOSER. Some people need to lighten up. He's not Johnny Unitas, but he's not Art Schlicter either. He's a competent backup QB that is tough as hell and a good teammate. I didn't see Russ miss any snaps last year except when we were blowing people out. I think T-Jack and Russ would work well together. Who knows... maybe Russ could even teach T-Jack a thing or two. Guys have been known to pick things up when around supportive teammates. Many NFL QB's don't hit their peak for many years. I heard plenty of guys whine and gripe endlessly when their beloved 49ers gave up jack and squat for Steve Young the "run first turnover machine of Tampa Bay". Some guys need better coaching, better teammates, better situations, and they do fine. I'd love to have T-Jack back for the record, because I think he'd be a good influence on Russ. How? Because he wouldn't be pressuring him to be the starter. He'd be a supportive backup and help carry the load as a team leader because the team already respects the heck out of the man. Leadership is good. Even if it's coming from your second stringer, because he leads the 2nd's and preps them for action when needed. Next man up is prepared, because they play with a leader in practice.


T-Jack was (and is probably worse now) just too frikin indecisive. Easy for me to sit here as the Monday morning QB, but watching T-Jack run the offense, despite the wins, was excruciatingly painful. He was a tough guy but not much more.
I pray we never stop bringing in guys that will pressure our starters. In his football life, I sincerely doubt there was many years RW didn't feel (tremendous) pressure. The results of that pressure speak for themselves and I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.


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The answer is in the draft...EJ Manuel in the fourth round.


If he lasts that long, definitely. I think Manuel will be a surprise pick in the 2nd round though (not by us, obviously). He's basically this year's Colin Kaepernick.

Anyway, assuming the Seahawks don't sign available undrafted players with mobility from last year (Zach Collaros, Darron Thomas)- if they wanted to they probably already would have- here are some options that I know of in the 2013 offseason for mobile QBs:

Free Agency:

T-Jack
Vince Young
Jason Campbell
Seneca Wallace (lol)
Chase Daniel (solid mobility, short, smart, reminds me of Case Keenum or Austin Davis from last year)

Mid to late round NFL Draft:

EJ Manuel (if he lasts that long) (he won't)
Matt Scott (a favorite of mine, but a few teams are interested in him)
Collin Klein (the closest thing this year to Tim Tebow)
Denard Robinson (more Antwaan Randle El than a true QB, but Seattle will probably draft him anyway)
Jordan Rodgers (brother of a very famous NFL QB)

It's not a long list. Wouldn't be surprised if Seattle or some other team pulled the trigger on Matt Scott in round 4 or 5, as this is a pretty weak year for mobile QBs.


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Surprised we didn't sign Josh Johnson when we brought him in. Seems like a good fit for backing up Wilson and would have been cheap.


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BINGO, Tebow would be the answer! But at what price? Tim's skill set is the same as Wilson!


Except Wilson can actually throw and is a real QB.

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T-Jack sucked. He took an awful offense and only squeezed as many wins out of it as Ring of Honor man Matt Hasselbeck. What a LOOOOOOSER. Some people need to lighten up. He's not Johnny Unitas, but he's not Art Schlicter either. He's a competent backup QB that is tough as hell and a good teammate. I didn't see Russ miss any snaps last year except when we were blowing people out. I think T-Jack and Russ would work well together. Who knows... maybe Russ could even teach T-Jack a thing or two. Guys have been known to pick things up when around supportive teammates. Many NFL QB's don't hit their peak for many years. I heard plenty of guys whine and gripe endlessly when their beloved 49ers gave up jack and squat for Steve Young the "run first turnover machine of Tampa Bay". Some guys need better coaching, better teammates, better situations, and they do fine. I'd love to have T-Jack back for the record, because I think he'd be a good influence on Russ. How? Because he wouldn't be pressuring him to be the starter. He'd be a supportive backup and help carry the load as a team leader because the team already respects the heck out of the man. Leadership is good. Even if it's coming from your second stringer, because he leads the 2nd's and preps them for action when needed. Next man up is prepared, because they play with a leader in practice.


The only thing T-Jack squeezed was losses out of should be wins. There wasn't a single game that year you can reference as T-Jack being the reason for the win and way to many losses that can be directly blamed on him. We ended up having one of the easiest schedules in years and not just because of strength of schedule but because we faced teams at just the right time when thay were forced to play their back up. Our defense was top ten and our running game the second half was best in the league. Comparing T-Jack that year with that team to Matt the previous year is incredibly bias but for what reason I don't know. One guy gets labeled tough because he stood in the pocket way to long and took tons of hits and played through a torn (or was it just strained? He never requird surgery) peck while the other guy played with two broken ribs. One guy couldn't muster a single come from behind win even with a defense that kept the score low and the other guy took us to a super bowl. One guy played here one year and the other guy was the face of our franchise and in the ROH. I really don't get what the desire to hoyst Jackson over Hasselbeck. It makes no sense at all to me.

How many offenses does it take to realize it may not be the coaching? T-Jack has been through three now. One for seven years and couldn't execute the play book. Once in a new system he couldn't even beat out the 2nd sting guy and that was what he was brought in to do. Zero active games, zero. Obviously the guy is the problem and not the coaching.

Why do you think he would be a good influence on Wilson? What evidence is there to support that? Just because players didn't openly complain about him doesn't mean they seen him as a leader. It just means they didn't hate him. Teams devote unrealistic amounts of support for whoever their QB is and this team has yet to have anyone go public about another player. Pete gets those types out of here fast.

If you want evidence of a QB who supported his replacement, take a look at Tennesee. Matt worked with Locker before during and after he became the starter. He was the shining example of exactly what you believe Jackson "might" do. If you want that characteristic in a veteran backup QB then you are making the argument to bring back Matt, not T-Jack.

You often have good insight into the NFL so please explain to me how Jackson is a competant backup but couldn't beat out anyone on the Bills roster. A roster filled with crap QBs. Why was he so easily discarded here in Seattle? Flynn and Wilson both took less than an offseason to beat him out so what evidence is there to support him being a competant backup? So far there is more evidence to support that he is not. Put him in a new system and he fails and if he had to play on a team without a top defense and running game, he would be exposed for what he really is. Incompetant. Why would you think anything else?

That John got even a 7th rounder for him should have made him executive of the year alone.

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TJack has been in 2 offenses. He followed Bevell.

Flynn has been in 2, couldn't beat out either guy, and has reportedly been a grump on the sidelines. And that's your boy. I'm a lot more comfortable with TJack back there as moral support than a butt hurt dude who either can't catch a break or just isn't as good as people think he is. If you think it's entirely coincidental that the conditional trade to Buffalo w/ TJack had to do with him being active on the roster and Buffalo never activating him, that's you, but I think he'd be a fine guy to have sitting behind Russell if we can even squeeze a late round pick out of a guy like Flynn and save even a dollar in cap space.

I definitely agree that Matt would be absolutely stellar behind our run-blocking line that requires a QB to make plays with his feet, there's no amount too small to pay him. Man, Rich, you love those backups from Green Bay, don't ya? :P


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Sorry, don't know if he has been mentioned, but do you think the Raiders could be persuaded to let loose of Terrelle Pryor?


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I like the idea of looking to Canada . . . But at also like my idea of making a phone call to Troy Smith. He's been maintaining his skills in the last year out of football.

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