If/when we get rid of Flynn, would you want Hasselbeck back?

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  • No, we need someone who could at least ATTEMPT to work with this offensive gameplan.
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  • I dont see what would be the point of signing an old QB who can't run our normal offense and who would be pricier than most backup QBs. Why not do what the Pats/Packers do and draft a guy who you may eventually be able to flip to another team for draft picks? (Like Pats did with Cassell, Packers tried to do with Flynn)
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  • The idea of getting someone (outside the draft) who can step in and run our offense is not going to happen. It's an insult to Wilson to think you could. The option part of the read/option is where most athletic QB's fail. It is why this offense is so new. It takes a special QB to be able to execute it and even then requires time in the system in real game situations to become proficient at it.

    If Wilson goes down we will revert to a traditional style of offense that functions best with a knowledgeable vet who can get the ball out quickly while reading defenses and can get comfortable with a new set of receivers quickly. He doesn't need to be super durable because he wouldn't see more than spot duty.

    Give me a guy who can execute a traditional offence, can motivate the team, is happy to be here as our backup and is a true team leader all day long. Throw in a history of being at his best come playoff time and if the money is reasonable, you do it in a second.
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  • Hasselbeck would be a great guy to have around for Wilson. I'd worry about him as a back-up coming in and holding up, but he also hasn't been hit too hard recently.

    Lets face it, whomever our backup is, if they end up having to play for an extended period of time it's going to suck. our chances go down and it's just not as fun to watch.
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  • Look at the Skins. Two young QBs and the backup has shown he can handle a spot start or emergency fill-in. The backup was a 3rd round pick. Maybe the Seahawks can replicate that and find a young QB to fill the backup role? Sort of like what Flynn was with the Packers? Cousins most likely will have to move on after his rookie contract but he has been a nice insurance policy and most likely starts off next year as the starter.

    Dennis Dixon started off for Ben when he was suspended, only to be replaced by Batch but the team took a chance on a young QB, though I don't think he was a rookie when he got his chance. Just random thoughts generated by the idea of a backup having to fill in.

    The sentiment that the team is screwed if the backup plays is probably correct but why not use that position to cultivate some value on the trade market instead of playing it safe with an old wily vet?
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  • I don't see the harm in signing Hasselbeck and little him finish his career in Seattle. This is Hasselbeck we are talking about. Why not pick up a young QB to be the 3rd stringer down the road.
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  • mech.romance wrote:I don't see the harm in signing Hasselbeck and little him finish his career in Seattle. This is Hasselbeck we are talking about. Why not pick up a young QB to be the 3rd stringer down the road.


    Thats the kind of logic the Mariners use to sign old washed up players like Griffey. Let's not turn into the M's and re-sign our old heroes for nostalgia sake. Besides, I would rather remember him as our starting QB during some very good years, not as the old, washed up back up.
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  • MrCarey wrote:No, we need someone who could at least ATTEMPT to work with this offensive gameplan.


    Yea. I can't think of an active QB with a skill set more unfit for our system than Hass. I love the guy, but that ship has sailed. Let him sign a 1 day contract to retire as a Hawk when he is all done.
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  • You know who is a worse system fit for backup QB? Cousins. Complete opposite of RGIII but he did pretty darn good when called upon.

    If there is a better backup, I'm all for grabbing him but I can't think of a single QB available that would be a better QB.

    Bring in Hass (because he would be the best backup in the league) and grab a project QB in the draft to train to be Matt's replacement.

    It is a side benefit that Matt would retire a Seahawk and possibly get that Super Bowl ring he deserves. Bring the man home and keep him in the PNW when he goes into his broadcasting career.
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  • Our backup qb doesn't need to be able to run the zone crap. It's only 20 percent of our offense and who knows how much in the future.

    Just get someone to keep us afloat.
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  • If Hass came back to the Hawks, I think the Real Rob Report would be even more epic...
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  • RichNhansom wrote:You know who is a worse system fit for backup QB? Cousins. Complete opposite of RGIII but he did pretty darn good when called upon.

    If there is a better backup, I'm all for grabbing him but I can't think of a single QB available that would be a better QB.

    Bring in Hass (because he would be the best backup in the league) and grab a project QB in the draft to train to be Matt's replacement.
    It is a side benefit that Matt would retire a Seahawk and possibly get that Super Bowl ring he deserves. Bring the man home and keep him in the PNW when he goes into his broadcasting career.



    My sentiments as well. He's the best backup out there and I think he's got a few more good games left. If he had to go in we would prob change to a conservative game plaat first anyway. I'd also like to see him get another shot at a ring that I feel he deserves. Bringing in a young guy to be the third stringer would be great. Imagine that young rookie getting to.learn from Hass and wilson. That'd be great
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  • Blitzer88 wrote:I would be ok with it, but really I would want someone that could also run the read option since it is a growing part of our playbook now.



    I love Mattie a lot but when someone says "run" option & Matt Hasslebeck in the same sentence I get the giggles. :D

    I mean, he hasn't "ran" in several years. Lurching is a much better word for it.

    In all seriousness I'm sure he could run it fine, he has a good head on his shoulders. But I fear his body would severly limit its effectivness.

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  • The Radish wrote:
    Blitzer88 wrote:I would be ok with it, but really I would want someone that could also run the read option since it is a growing part of our playbook now.



    I love Mattie a lot but when someone says "run" option & Matt Hasslebeck in the same sentence I get the giggles. :D

    I mean, he hasn't "ran" in several years. Lurching is a much better word for it.

    In all seriousness I'm sure he could run it fine, he has a good head on his shoulders. But I fear his body would severly limit its effectivness.

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    No he can't run it just fine.

    To run it you actually have to be a threat to run. No defense is going to worry about Hasselbeck beating them with his legs. He simply can't run it.

    If he were to come here that part of the offense would not be ran when he was in the game. Which is fine if he were still a good QB which unfortunately I don't believe he is anymore.
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  • RichNhansom wrote:The idea of getting someone (outside the draft) who can step in and run our offense is not going to happen. It's an insult to Wilson to think you could. The option part of the read/option is where most athletic QB's fail. It is why this offense is so new. It takes a special QB to be able to execute it and even then requires time in the system in real game situations to become proficient at it.

    If Wilson goes down we will revert to a traditional style of offense that functions best with a knowledgeable vet who can get the ball out quickly while reading defenses and can get comfortable with a new set of receivers quickly. He doesn't need to be super durable because he wouldn't see more than spot duty.

    Give me a guy who can execute a traditional offence, can motivate the team, is happy to be here as our backup and is a true team leader all day long. Throw in a history of being at his best come playoff time and if the money is reasonable, you do it in a second.


    Absolutely. We have the perfect environment for Hass. Behind Jake, he's likely going to see too much playing time in Tenn. Bring him home, let him retire a Hawk and let him run the victory formation in the superbowl.
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  • Finally, a thread I can get behind! Of course bring him back, let's get him into camp to compete! Hell yeah...surprised it isn;t already done...
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  • The only person more suited to be RW3's back up than Ocho Hasso is TJ! TJ! TJ! so yes but only if Buff is unwilling to strike a deal for the young prince. Or else keep Flynn and brink back TJ! and Hass. You know what they say: "Three's a crowd, four could operate a large aquatic vessel with only slight difficulty."
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  • I love Matt and all he was meant to this city, but I only want him back for a retirement ceremony.
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  • I brought over this video to add a slice of reality to the conversation.. Matt can't run for squat but he still has excellent read quality and a lightning release.

    Matt can still win on an otherwise good team. He's no Wilson....but then who is?

    I like him for the history... I like him for the sidelines ... I like him to help Wilson see things during a game.


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  • As a backup? No. Maybe if they could get him for a 750k/one-year deal to be the third string QB for a season, so he can retire and possibly get a ring as a Seahawk. Hasselbeck has already made $51 million over his career, so I don't think he would be concerned with money. Plus when you're his age, and you still want to play, you will take anything that comes your way.

    I am betting Matt retires after next season anyway.
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  • The sentimentality in this thread is nauseating.
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  • Hasselbeck is still throwing balloon passes. He'd still be just as much of a liability under pressure as he was in 2009-2010.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:The sentimentality in this thread is nauseating.


    I agree. I also find it funny that people think Wilson would have a ton to learn from Hasselbeck, returning back to the "resign Hass and let the rookie learn under him" zeitgeist that was so incredibly annoying.
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  • Zowert wrote:As a backup? No. Maybe if they could get him for a 750k/one-year deal to be the third string QB for a season, so he can retire and possibly get a ring as a Seahawk. Hasselbeck has already made $51 million over his career, so I don't think he would be concerned with money. Plus when you're his age, and you still want to play, you will take anything that comes your way.

    I am betting Matt retires after next season anyway.


    51 million? HMMmmmmm.......???? I appears his net worth is currently 18 million. How the heck did he waste 33 million over the last few years?
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    mech.romance wrote:I don't see the harm in signing Hasselbeck and little him finish his career in Seattle. This is Hasselbeck we are talking about. Why not pick up a young QB to be the 3rd stringer down the road.


    Thats the kind of logic the Mariners use to sign old washed up players like Griffey. Let's not turn into the M's and re-sign our old heroes for nostalgia sake. Besides, I would rather remember him as our starting QB during some very good years, not as the old, washed up back up.


    I don't think the team could win games with him, his last season here was pretty awful granted we weren't as talented then but he turned the ball over a lot.

    (because he would be the best backup in the league)

    :179422: got any for the rest of us?

    Alex Smith? Kirk Cousins? Matt Flynn.

    There is quite a few guys I would take over Hass.

    I'm not the nostalgic type, I want the best players.
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  • HUGGY wrote:I brought over this video to add a slice of reality to the conversation.. Matt can't run for squat but he still has excellent read quality and a lightning release.

    Matt can still win on an otherwise good team. He's no Wilson....but then who is?

    I like him for the history... I like him for the sidelines ... I like him to help Wilson see things during a game.


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    Incorrect. It is Wilson who would be teaching Matt a thing or three.
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  • RichNhansom wrote:The idea of getting someone (outside the draft) who can step in and run our offense is not going to happen. It's an insult to Wilson to think you could. The option part of the read/option is where most athletic QB's fail. It is why this offense is so new. It takes a special QB to be able to execute it and even then requires time in the system in real game situations to become proficient at it.

    If Wilson goes down we will revert to a traditional style of offense that functions best with a knowledgeable vet who can get the ball out quickly while reading defenses and can get comfortable with a new set of receivers quickly. He doesn't need to be super durable because he wouldn't see more than spot duty.

    Give me a guy who can execute a traditional offence, can motivate the team, is happy to be here as our backup and is a true team leader all day long. Throw in a history of being at his best come playoff time and if the money is reasonable, you do it in a second.


    Who says Hass would be happy to be here as the backup?

    In a league where there are plenty of questionable starting QBs, why wouldn't Hass want to go somewhere where he might have a chance to start due to the 1st-string guy struggling?

    And honestly, can you think of an example of a QB hitting his prime with one team, starting to decline, leaving in FA, and then COMING BACK? I can't think of any competitive QB who would really drool over the thought of going back to the team who thought he was mostly washed up. I know Hass says wonderful things about the Hawks, but I'm pretty sure that the ship has sailed on him suiting up for the team ever again.
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  • Isn't the point of getting rid of Flynn to save money and get a player who can run the same things as Russell Wilson. We save 3.5 million in cap space by trading Flynn, why waste the cap space on a aging vet, who doesn't improve the team in the short term or long term. Its not like Wilson needs a mentor
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  • We need to move on and stop clinging to the past.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:The sentimentality in this thread is nauseating.


    One man's vomit is another man's dinner. :pukeface:

    Bring the old guy back! He's just the inspiration we need to get to the SB. It will be a trip down memory lane with a different outcome!
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  • I'm for it. He has the football smarts, plain and simple.
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  • HawkWow wrote:
    RichNhansom wrote:The idea of getting someone (outside the draft) who can step in and run our offense is not going to happen. It's an insult to Wilson to think you could. The option part of the read/option is where most athletic QB's fail. It is why this offense is so new. It takes a special QB to be able to execute it and even then requires time in the system in real game situations to become proficient at it.

    If Wilson goes down we will revert to a traditional style of offense that functions best with a knowledgeable vet who can get the ball out quickly while reading defenses and can get comfortable with a new set of receivers quickly. He doesn't need to be super durable because he wouldn't see more than spot duty.

    Give me a guy who can execute a traditional offence, can motivate the team, is happy to be here as our backup and is a true team leader all day long. Throw in a history of being at his best come playoff time and if the money is reasonable, you do it in a second.


    Absolutely. We have the perfect environment for Hass. Behind Jake, he's likely going to see too much playing time in Tenn. Bring him home, let him retire a Hawk and let him run the victory formation in the superbowl.


    Seriously? We make it to the Superbowl, get in position to take a knee then you DON'T let the QB who guided you there take the knee? Hass was a great Seahawk, but if Wilson got the team into that position it'd be a great insult to let Hass take the knee
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  • yeah, you wouldnt let hass take the victory formation knee. that'd be wrong. But having hass here as our 2nd or 3rd wouldnt hurt the team. some of you dont like him, or think he cant play, and thats fine, he wouldnt be here for that necessarily. if he wanted to sign a contract for vet min and be 2nd or third on the depth, and just wanted one more chance to win a SB in seattle, since he was robbed of his, i would welcome him. im not saying set the franchise back years by letting him come back. Fwiw, i dont see him coming back here, unless its a 1 day contract just to retire. But i would support him if he did. Great seahawk and class act, good for the locker room and the community
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  • Hasselbeck is not a fit for this offense .......... any more than Largent would have been a fit for a Hasselbeck offense.

    :hmmmm: Largent and Zorn.

    I wonder if there is a young Steve Largent out there somewhere that they could pair up with Russell Wilson.
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  • Hawk4lyfe wrote:some of you dont like him, or think he cant play, and thats fine, he wouldnt be here for that necessarily.


    1. Nobody 'doesn't like' Matt Hasselbeck. Everybody likes Matt Hasselbeck. What some people don't like is clinging to the past. It's time to move on. He's 38 this year and the offense would have to shift considerably to accommodate him. It makes sense to bring in a backup who can at least run a lot of the plays Wilson can. I might be mistaken, but I think John Schneider already made this point in his post-season interviews.

    2. If he isn't here to play what is he here for? This idea that Hasselbeck warrants a place on the roster to hang off the coat-tails of a possible Super Bowl run is ridiculous. Should we also save a roster spot for Walter Jones and Shaun Alexander? Were they robbed too?
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  • This is what those one-day signing/retire as a member of your main team type deals are for.
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  • We sling the ball deep all the time with Russell Wilson. I bet this year alone we have completed more deep passes then we ever did with Hasselbeck.

    Why in gods name would we want to bring back a dink and dunk offense? You guys are acting like mariner fans.

    The Hasselbeck era is over people.
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  • Tech you have been saying that for years but the truth is Hasselbeck was #3 in the league on the deep ball his first year with the Titans and among the top with completions and bottom for Int's on those throws.

    I keep seeing the "we want someone who can run Wilson's offense but that is not going to happen. There is a reason athletic QB's are rare in the league. This isn't a simple scheme that even Russell Wilson can run, it is a scheme developed to RW's strengths. Finding a QB that can run this system with any efficiency would be a stroke of luck. Did Philly go out and find a backup that could run Vick's system? It's rare for a reason and a pipe dream to think we are going to find someone we can just drop in and they will be able to do even a little of what Wilson is doing.

    Realistically I kind of doubt the Titans will let him go. Yes he is scheduled for a pretty big payday if they don't but Locker has yet to prove hes is the franchise guy and yet to stay healthy. They also don't currently have another suitable backup to replace him.

    I know English wants to say nobody dislikes Matt but I don't believe that is true. Matt for some reason brings out the hate is some. My brother who knows little about football would openly tell you he hated Matt. Didn't have a reason other than to make the standard "he has a weak arm blah blah blah. I took it with a grain of salt from him because if you ask him who Matt was throwing to he would get that deer in the headlights look and try to change the subject but for whatever reason, he couldn't stand Matt and I have seen the same type of opinions from others.

    It always blows e away that Tarvaris Jackson got more respect from some even in here and the guy never did anything to deserve it yet he had followers from other teams and members here that give him more respect than the guy that took us to a super bowl.
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  • If everyone is so anxious to have him back sign him to a one day conract and retire him. In no way does he fit the direction this team is headed.
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  • RichNhansom wrote:I keep seeing the "we want someone who can run Wilson's offense but that is not going to happen. There is a reason athletic QB's are rare in the league. This isn't a simple scheme that even Russell Wilson can run, it is a scheme developed to RW's strengths. Finding a QB that can run this system with any efficiency would be a stroke of luck. Did Philly go out and find a backup that could run Vick's system? It's rare for a reason and a pipe dream to think we are going to find someone we can just drop in and they will be able to do even a little of what Wilson is doing.


    Nobody is claiming the team needs to acquire an exact replica of Russell Wilson. The point is more about having to change as little as possible. Having Hasselbeck as the backup means a complete sea change in approach, whether that's coming in mid-game or for 2-3 weeks. A quarterback with a stronger arm and greater mobility means less change. It's not a pipe dream to expect there's a QB out there who can be more elusive, throw a nice deep ball off play action and run a little read-option or pistol better than a 38-year-old Matt Hasselbeck.

    It's all about making life as easy as possible. Not about guaranteeing there won't be any drop off if Wilson gets injured or misses time.

    And even if there are a few weirdo's out there like your brother who 'hate' Matt Hasselbeck, the majority definitely don't feel that way. However, there probably are a lot of people very frustrated that once again we're talking about him on this forum, with people making such ridiculous suggestions like he should take the victory formation at the Super Bowl or should take up a roster spot as the #3 because he was 'robbed' in XL and deserves a free ride. We're not a charity, here to give Hasselbeck, Walter Jones or Shaun Alexander Super Bowl rings. This is a new era of Seahawks football and it's time... to... move... on.
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  • I'm not suggesting a victory formation or bringing him back for nastalga sakes, I've seen Pete and John's idea of a mobile/strong armed QB in Tarvaris Jackson and I don't believe for a second if Wilson were to get injured we would run any pistol or Option type plays because you don't want to run the risk of losing your backup also, not to mention the obvious reason that it isn't as simple as just being mobile and strong armed.

    My opinion is if you could get Matt here on the cheap he would be better than anything else available 38 years old or not. We didn't ask Wilson to throw the ball hardly at all this year until the Atlanta game. That is what you are going to hope for from your backup as well. Just like every other team with a mobile QB, your backup is going to be asked to play it safe and take what is given while you rely on your running game and defense to hold the game in check.

    I know Juhn made a statement in regards to finding a backup more in Wilson's mold but reading between the line a little, I suspect that was his way of saying we are open for trades for Flynn and not that he actually thinks he can find Wilson 2.0 to keep things rolling as is. Any backup we bring in will be asked to stay in the pocket and not take risks.
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  • if your frustrated we are talking about it "again" (some of us have never talked about it) then hey, dont read this topic genuis. its pretty clear in the title whats its about. if this annoys you, or frustrates you, move on. fact is, having hasselbeck on this roster is not going to hold this team back. If wilson goes down for any length of time, the season is likely shot anyways. Its really just a what-if question to pass the time, and maybe reflect on some of peoples fav players of the past. some of you are taking it waaaay to seriously. Matt has been to a SB and many playoff games, to think/say he would have nothing to offer this team is just stupid imo. its not like we are brining him in to start. but, its likely not going to happen anywayz, just something to talk about
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  • RichNhansom wrote:I'm not suggesting a victory formation or bringing him back for nastalga sakes, I've seen Pete and John's idea of a mobile/strong armed QB in Tarvaris Jackson and I don't believe for a second if Wilson were to get injured we would run any pistol or Option type plays because you don't want to run the risk of losing your backup also, not to mention the obvious reason that it isn't as simple as just being mobile and strong armed.

    My opinion is if you could get Matt here on the cheap he would be better than anything else available 38 years old or not. We didn't ask Wilson to throw the ball hardly at all this year until the Atlanta game. That is what you are going to hope for from your backup as well. Just like every other team with a mobile QB, your backup is going to be asked to play it safe and take what is given while you rely on your running game and defense to hold the game in check.

    I know Juhn made a statement in regards to finding a backup more in Wilson's mold but reading between the line a little, I suspect that was his way of saying we are open for trades for Flynn and not that he actually thinks he can find Wilson 2.0 to keep things rolling as is. Any backup we bring in will be asked to stay in the pocket and not take risks.



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    if matt plays, the experience would be invaluable, and we would likely run the ball alot and rely on our defense. no he isnt as mobile, but he's still pretty accurate, and he gets the ball out quick, which i love
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  • I think if we lost Wilson for the season and we rolled out 38 year old Hasselbeck we would be screwed.

    Dude is just old. This isn't 2005 here people. I saw the pill bug impersonation way too many times his last few years here to want to see that again. And oh let's not forget the turnovers.

    Maybe if we had a time machine.....

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  • Hawk4lyfe wrote:if your frustrated we are talking about it "again" (some of us have never talked about it) then hey, dont read this topic genuis. its pretty clear in the title whats its about. if this annoys you, or frustrates you, move on. fact is, having hasselbeck on this roster is not going to hold this team back. If wilson goes down for any length of time, the season is likely shot anyways. Its really just a what-if question to pass the time, and maybe reflect on some of peoples fav players of the past. some of you are taking it waaaay to seriously. Matt has been to a SB and many playoff games, to think/say he would have nothing to offer this team is just stupid imo. its not like we are brining him in to start. but, its likely not going to happen anywayz, just something to talk about


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  • IMO if Wilson goes down we're screwed no matter who is his back up.
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  • This could be moot as Mort keeps saying that other NFL teams do not appear to have interest in Matt Flynn as a starter.
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