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The home/away isn't set up by some guy in an office at the end of the year. It was already in place years ago. There's no great conspiracy. Not unless you think the NFL has special predictive powers about who's going to be good when.

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The home/away isn't set up by some guy in an office at the end of the year. It was already in place years ago. There's no great conspiracy. Not unless you think the NFL has special predictive powers about who's going to be good when.


That's what they want you to think.

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I'm less worried about who we play than when we play them.

In 2012, we had a favorable schedule in that we had more home games in the second half (5) than in the first half (3). I think that helped with momentum for us. We'll probably have that switched this year, where we play more road games in the second half of the season. It'll be interesting come April when they release the final skeds.

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Its all relative. Last years SOS at the beginning of the season was completely different then how it ended. Teams change all the time. There is only a few teams you can count on to be tough every year for the last 4 years.

Green Bay
New England

We dont have them this year, we beat them last year. I feel good. But dont be surprised if all of a sudden, a few of those other teams become crazy power houses kinda like we did this year.

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I thought the schedule was based upon who won the division and so forth. I thought it was set up so that the teams that won the division had harder schedules than the second who had it harder than 3rd place and so on.

That's part of the whole parity thing. The only part that's set up years ago is what divisions we go up against. So the Niners have to play the top teams that won their divisions and the Cards play the bottom teams of that division. Also a part of parity is who is home and who is away. At least, it's SUPPOSED to work that way I've always believed. Evidently, it doesn't anymore.

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I thought the schedule was based upon who won the division and so forth. I thought it was set up so that the teams that won the division had harder schedules than the second who had it harder than 3rd place and so on.

That's part of the whole parity thing. The only part that's set up years ago is what divisions we go up against. So the Niners have to play the top teams that won their divisions and the Cards play the bottom teams of that division. Also a part of parity is who is home and who is away. At least, it's SUPPOSED to work that way I've always believed. Evidently, it doesn't anymore.


There is a forumla, and it does do somewhat of what you said. Im trying to locate this cool grid chart that shows future schedules, but I cant find it.

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Nothing I've seen or heard yet indicates the Rams won't be a tough match up next year. I respect them more than the Niners.


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I thought the schedule was based upon who won the division and so forth. I thought it was set up so that the teams that won the division had harder schedules than the second who had it harder than 3rd place and so on.

That's part of the whole parity thing. The only part that's set up years ago is what divisions we go up against. So the Niners have to play the top teams that won their divisions and the Cards play the bottom teams of that division. Also a part of parity is who is home and who is away. At least, it's SUPPOSED to work that way I've always believed. Evidently, it doesn't anymore.

I think you misunderstand how it works.

We are scheduled, on a rotating basis, to play one NFC and one AFC division each year, all four teams. Home and away were at one time on a rotation, too, but I think they've messed with that on occasion.

Our "strength of schedule" games number 2, actually. We will play the 2nd place teams from the two divisions we are not scheduled to play this year.

The parity comes from the fact that each of our division rivals will play 12 games against the same opponents that we do (four common division opponents and 8 from the two divisions we play). So the games against common opponents tie-breaker has more games to base on for in-division rivals.

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Guess I don't agree with those who think ATL and NYG on the road are not a concern. Love the confidence but unless the pass rush is improved big time, these teams will still carve up the pass defense. Think Detroit, Miami and ATL and others from this year.

The Seahawks beat the NY Giants with TJack/Whitehurst but Eli and Cruz were tearing these guys up back then. I would at least list them as a team to be concerned with as a potential loss.


I agree with this. I don't see why people are overlooking the away schedule. The absence of New England and Green Bay from the schedule makes the overall schedule look decent, but I'm not looking forward to NY on the road, Atlanta on the road, Houston on the road (unless it was the playoffs when they choke!), or even Indianapolis on the road. While I think all of those games are winnable, I also think they are losable. Given this teams ability to lose on the road, I would suspect a split under .500 for those games.

Now, if some of those get the Sunday night (I'm thinking the NY game here), Monday night or just the 4 pm EST time slot treatment, then the odds of victory improve. We'll have to see when the schedule comes out.


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I thought the schedule was based upon who won the division and so forth. I thought it was set up so that the teams that won the division had harder schedules than the second who had it harder than 3rd place and so on.

That's part of the whole parity thing. The only part that's set up years ago is what divisions we go up against. So the Niners have to play the top teams that won their divisions and the Cards play the bottom teams of that division. Also a part of parity is who is home and who is away. At least, it's SUPPOSED to work that way I've always believed. Evidently, it doesn't anymore.

I think you misunderstand how it works.

We are scheduled, on a rotating basis, to play one NFC and one AFC division each year, all four teams. Home and away were at one time on a rotation, too, but I think they've messed with that on occasion.

Our "strength of schedule" games number 2, actually. We will play the 2nd place teams from the two divisions we are not scheduled to play this year.

The parity comes from the fact that each of our division rivals will play 12 games against the same opponents that we do (four common division opponents and 8 from the two divisions we play). So the games against common opponents tie-breaker has more games to base on for in-division rivals.

All of that I understood. However, I also thought the home/away was decided upon by final placement in the previous season (draft order). So, with San Fran having gone further in the playoffs than Atlanta and both being division winners, San Fran plays at Atlanta.
At least, at one time that's how it used to work. Not sure when they dropped that part, but I bet Goodel had something to do with it.

Also, not sure why people think this is an easier schedule, it's not. Rams on the road are a probably loss. So is San Fran. Atlanta on the road is losable, as is NYG and Houston. The Colts will just be better and no playoff team can be counted as a win on the road the next year. That's 6 losses right there and we finish 10-6. I thought going into this season (check the archives) that we'd be 11-5. We were, though losing and winning differently than I expected. Looking at that schedule 10-6 is probably what I'll project.

Not sure how people think that schedule looks easy. For the Niners it looks much easier. They'll lose road games to the Rams, Seahawks and Skins. At home, only the Packers look formidable, but I'd expect them to lose one of those home games. I could see them going 13-3 or 12-4 with that cake walk.

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Nothing I've seen or heard yet indicates the Rams won't be a tough match up next year. I respect them more than the Niners.


Same here. And more than the Cards.


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Whats to worry about.......we sweep the home games and sweep our division, that is 11 wins right there. Win a couple of those away non division games and we are in business.

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I thought the schedule was based upon who won the division and so forth. I thought it was set up so that the teams that won the division had harder schedules than the second who had it harder than 3rd place and so on.

That's part of the whole parity thing. The only part that's set up years ago is what divisions we go up against. So the Niners have to play the top teams that won their divisions and the Cards play the bottom teams of that division. Also a part of parity is who is home and who is away. At least, it's SUPPOSED to work that way I've always believed. Evidently, it doesn't anymore.


Only two games a year are affected by where you finish. For example as the #2 team in the NFCW the Hawks play two other#2 teams.

The 49ers play two #1 teams, the Rams two #3's and the Cardinals two #4's.

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I am gonna go out on a limb and say we are going to win a lot of games next year...


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If we can look at the schedule and worry about 4 away games, I'd say we're in good shape. Yeah its a bummer that SF got the harder ones at home, but we had some doozies at home this past year. We'll be fine if we are going to meet expectations. Great teams win tough games.

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If we can look at the schedule and worry about 4 away games, I'd say we're in good shape. Yeah its a bummer that SF got the harder ones at home, but we had some doozies at home this past year. We'll be fine if we are going to meet expectations. Great teams win tough games.


Agreed. If Seattle is as good as we expect them to be, they're not going to have the road let downs of the past 3 years. We already know we can beat Atlanta at their house - and that game will probably be in primetime-, and I don't expect Houston to be as formidable next year. We'll drop a couple of course, but hey, no one wants to say we didn't earn our NFC West title and bye, right?

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Away: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New York Giants, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts


I don't know, obviously it is what it is within the division but the rest of the road schedule sure doesn't send a shiver up my spine...

We went into NY and kicked the Giants ass a couple of years ago when they won the SB and they look to me like they're heading in the opposite direction than we are right now;

We beat the Panthers pretty handley this year on their turf, no reason to think, that our one year more improved team can't do it again even if they take a step forward;

Houston Texans should be a good game, I'm really looking forward to that one... I believe we can win it;

Colts? I'm guessing their fans are looking at the Hawks on their home schedule and saying, or at least thinking, that's a game we may vary well lose...

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yep we have a few tough games on the road, and a few at home... but after this season i have way more confidence we get the job done... the beautiful thing about going into next season is, every single one of those teams on the schedule is looking at it and saying, uh oh we got seattle..... life is good...

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The way this team plays, including on the road, I don't care who they play. Every game is winnable to the Hawks in their current form, they don't have to win them all, just most of 'em and that is reasonable. Even prior to Wilson being unleashed, they were beating good teams.

The offense that developed in the second half of the season is capable of putting up scores on any defense they face. As long as Russell Wilson is the QB, the Hawks will win most of their games. The rest of the team is built to win games on their own, by putting that kid in position to lead them, there is no ceiling. The Hawks can EASILY go 12-4 next season regardless of the schedule.

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Looking at that, our hardest away games are in division. If we want to make a deep playoff run, we need to do better than 3-3 in division this year. We lost every away game in division last year. Reasonably, I would expect to split with San Fran, split with the Rams, and sweep the Cards.

Panthers don't scare me.

Colts don't scare me.

We recently beat the Giants, there, with a less talented team than we have now. They aren't the best home team, really.

Houston will probably be the toughest one. I like the individual matchups right now, but FA and the draft change a lot.

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still doesnt seem right that the team that won the division has an easier schedule than 2nd and 3rd. but like others have said, if we are gonna be a contender, we need to win the tough games. i think we will, i see us (at this point, which is really premature) going 11-5 again. but this schedule looks (on paper, as of right now) more challenging than last years. And with SF having such an easy schedule it may be a close finish again for the division.

fyi, we won the panthers game last year because cam threw a pass in the dirt when he had a guy open for a td to take the lead at the end. i still think we win that game, but it wont be a cake walk.

i think our game vs houston could be a superbowl preview

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still doesnt seem right that the team that won the division has an easier schedule than 2nd and 3rd. but like others have said, if we are gonna be a contender, we need to win the tough games. i think we will, i see us (at this point, which is really premature) going 11-5 again. but this schedule looks (on paper, as of right now) more challenging than last years. And with SF having such an easy schedule it may be a close finish again for the division.

fyi, we won the panthers game last year because cam threw a pass in the dirt when he had a guy open for a td to take the lead at the end. i still think we win that game, but it wont be a cake walk.

i think our game vs houston could be a superbowl preview


I hardly see how this schedule looks more challenging this last years.

We had Green Bay, New England, Chicago which are imo are all harder then anybody we face next year. We also had the highest SOV last year.

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Ha! Maybe the Hawks can actually beat the Bears 73-0 scoring record that we just missed against the Cards this year...

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Looks like there will be a lot of 10:00 am games. I know we bucked this old trend a bit this year, but I still think those put us at a bit of a disadvantage.


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Meh, I'm not worried. Win your division games and take care of business at home. That's 11 wins right there and entirely doable.

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16-0 no doubt.

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Why not?


I agree. Screw it, that schedule as a whole looks a lot better than the 2012 one did. I like that we get Atlanta and the Giants on the road. Those are teams the Hawks can beat and match up well against. The Texans is the real question mark. The thing is, by the time it is played out, there will be some change in some of those teams' status. Hopefully, for the worse. :twisted:

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I love the schedule. I could see us being 12-4 or better. Next year shall be a great year for us fans!


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Blaine Gabbert vs. this team at home is going to be....a liability to his future health...really

I hope we draw them early so that there's no chance Henne or anyone else is in.

I also hope we play the 9ers late in the season at home, like last year.

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