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Nice call on Darryl Turner. We used to call him "Feast or Famine" Dude had horrible hands. He'd make the spectacular catch, and drop perfectly thrown long bombs for sure td's.

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Was before I discovered this site, but I'll admit I was a Boulware fan.

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Aaron Curry was lights out in his first regular season game. He played so well in fact he expended his entire talent pool in that game.


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The same Aaron Curry who Kiper called "the safest pick in the draft"

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The entire defense from 2005 to 2007.

Remember the "best linebackers in the NFL" Tatupu, Hill and Peterson? Michael Boulware and Ken Hamlin? Marcus Tubbs, Bryce Fisher, Patrick Kerney?

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Joe Jurevicius, though in a different kind of way. Wish we could've kept him.

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Probably Rick Mirer. He almost won rookie of the year, and then...well...


That's my vote -- the last Seahawks Starting QB who wore #3. Rick Mirer won AFC Rookie of the Year in 1993 -- his best year as a Seahawk. It was all downhill from there. He went from being the #2 Overall Pick in the NFL Draft ... to being a Chicago Bear just 4 years later. Hard to argue a bigger flash in the pan guy then that.

Then again as I'm typing this, I am reminded about a certain high profiled mohawk sporting LB from Oklahoma. Brian Bosworth was in a whole different category by himself. Those of you like me who were around to watch him play know exactly what I mean. To think, the Seahawks actually signed that guy to a 10 year $11 million contract -- which at the time was the largest contract ever given to a rookie in NFL History. For what he ended up giving the Hawks, he's the very definition of flash in the pan (and man, did he ever have a lot of flash). He had an incredibly flashy personality - the Richard Sherman of his day. Remember those T-Shirts that were floating around Seattle promoting the Boz -- Boz knows Elway (IIRC). Well, there were also T-Shirts that were sold in Denver that sported Boz's face with a slash through it that said "Ban the Boz". The thing is, it was the exact same company who sold both shirts -- 44 Boz, Inc. In other words, it was Bosworth himself who owned the company. What a character.


Remember all that. Living in Denver at the time he was probably the most hated man in Denver. I got a fantastic poster of The Boz kneeling over a sacked, flat on his back Elway. I remember the games and I loved it!


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The entire defense from 2005 to 2007.

Remember the "best linebackers in the NFL" Tatupu, Hill and Peterson? Michael Boulware and Ken Hamlin? Marcus Tubbs, Bryce Fisher, Patrick Kerney?


Loved Hamlin. Tha Hammer!


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Boulware was the first one that came to me.

But a few more true flash in the pan Seahawks:

Nick Reed, Justin Forsett, Leonard Weaver, Marquis Weeks (i think that was his name?) they truely flashed then were extinguished. They should all be in the preseason hall of fame.

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The entire defense from 2005 to 2007.


This.

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DJ Hackett came to mind first. I thought that guy was going to be a star. He should have never followed the money trail, his best shot was in Seattle.

Mayes was another good choice.

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Boulware is a good choice -- but I always felt he was foolsgold anyway. Lots of raging board debates about him back then. He did have the ability to make opposing QBs throw the ball right at him. Uncanny.


Come on, you of all people being the historian here -- how can anyone honestly argue with Bosworth being the biggest flash in the pan Seahawk of them all? Seriously, if you consider the incredible hype surrounding this guy and just how much of a star he was in college. He is only 1 of 9 linebackers to have made Sports Illustrated's NCAA All Century Team. It's incredible to think that the Boz is the only linebacker in NCAA History to have won the Butkus Award twice. That's the backdrop ... and when you couple that with:

1) His 10 Year/$11 Million Contract (which again was the Richest Contract ever handed out to a rookie up until that time). Remember how much that contract ended up crippling the Hawks.

2) His incredibly flamboyant "Flashy" Personality. He LOVED to stir up controversy -- he thrived on it. He makes Richard Sherman look like Richie Cunningham.

3) The fact that he put himself out there as being one of the best defensive players in the NFL ... and that his career flamed out so darn quickly. A grand total of just 24 NFL Games played and a mere 4 Sacks (albeit he did have one of the best hits on John Elway ever).

To give those who aren't acquainted with this guy just what kind of player we're talking about here ... and just what he was all about, here is a short Brian Bosworth "Highlights" film on him featuring Steve Raible, Claire Farnsworth, John Clayton, and others. This is a must watch for those who never got to experience the mystique that was the Boz ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0YOoRXcrlQ

The Boz by anyone's standards is in the Top 10 biggest busts in NFL History. When you stop to consider just WHO this guy was in college ... what he basically promised to do in the NFL ... and just how fast his star burned out, there's no question in my mind just who the biggest Flash in the Pan Seahawk is of all time. Heck, the Boz is one of the greatest Flash in the Pan players in NFL History. They don't get much flashier than this guy.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Seahawks "Flash in the Pan"
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Since I haven't seen this mentioned yet, how 'bout Chris Terry? Our offense really took flight when he was plugged in at RT. The very next season he stunk it up.


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The first big one that came to mind for me (since I have only been able to actually watch hawks games on a consistent basis since 2005) was D.J. Hackett. But I agree that Hamlin would be right up there too.

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Geez...you guys are good. I had to think really hard at finding one. How about Chris McIntosh ? He was a 1st round pick and looked pretty good. Year 2 he had some neck issues and only played a game or two and it was a career.


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You guys pretty much nailed all the good ones so I'll throw out a few. So far, Boz/Mirer/Boulware/Koren/Hamlin/Mike Williams are the 6 that are really standing out to me as the biggest flashes in the pan. Some others...

Walter Thurmond III - For obvious reasons
Sean Locklear - Looked great at first, then got worse and worse as his career in Seattle continued. Somehow, he's starting for the Giants now.
Anthony Simmons - Just for pehawk. Love ya buddy! Seriously, I thought Simmons was going to be a hero for the Hawks. Not so much.
Soloman Bates - All I remember is a really young LB out of Arizona State that I thought would be a solid LB after his first preseason with the team. Never happened.

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He and Boulware together had one monster year that had us all salivating for the future.

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He and Boulware together had one monster year that had us all salivating for the future.


Yup. I was convinced that the two of them would make up a devastating safety duo for YEARS. Little did my puny brain know that there would be a duo named "Thomas" and "Chancellor" that would make laugh at the mention of Hamlin or Boulware especially. Those were good times.

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I have always though Joey Galloway sorta flashed, then after the whole contract dispute thing he simply played angry. The poster child for "I want more money...dammit" I really wanted him to just keep doing a few more of those 1000-yard receiving seasons before griping about his paycheck.

His departure did yield us both Shaun Alexander AND Koren Robinson though....

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Gotta be Daryl "Deep Threat" Turner.

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Rick Mirer popped in my head first. I remember on draft day being stoked we didn't get stuck with Bledsoe.


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Another vote for Chris McIntosh. Thought our right tackle was set for a decade, then a freak neck injury ended his career.

Tubbs too. Dominant but too often injured.

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So many great players already listed, but Ruskell's my vote too. Sure, he wasn't a player, but he's my "Flash in the Pan" because he was directly responsible for a lot of Seahawks flash in the pan players (and years, for that matter). Remember how high so many people were on him? Remember all the early love for his "high motor/high character" picks? Remember "In Ruskell We Trust?"

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Walter Jones. The guy only had what, 13 great years?

(All my other choices have been listed.)

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Gotta be Daryl "Deep Threat" Turner.


I agree.

Remember that game in Denver when Turner caught the long bomb first play of the game? I think it was even the first game of the season, not sure.

Turner was so fast we all thought he'd be a cornerstone deep threat for 10 years. But the dude just couldn't run routes or lose his penchant for drops.

Sad thing is the Hawks are still looking for a deep threat receiver 25 years later.

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Gotta be Daryl "Deep Threat" Turner.


I agree.

Remember that game in Denver when Turner caught the long bomb first play of the game? I think it was even the first game of the season, not sure.

Turner was so fast we all thought he'd be a cornerstone deep threat for 10 years. But the dude just couldn't run routes or lose his penchant for drops.

Sad thing is the Hawks are still looking for a deep threat receiver 25 years later.


How does a guy like DT do the things he did and then just disappear? He still holds a few Seahawks and NFL records. :34853_doh:

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Flash in the pan? This guy fits in that catagory. Had such high hopes....

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Lawrence Jackson, oh wait you have to get more than 2 sacks and 29 tackles in a season before you become a flash in the pan.

L. Jackson would be one of the biggest Seahawks busts then..

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Ahman Green, those first two years he had some great runs to the second level and then poof he was traded.


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Ahman Green, those first two years he had some great runs to the second level and then poof he was traded.


Good one, I had totally forgotten about him. He did well in Green Bay for a while too though, didn't he?

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Those are all good names guys. But again, I'm sorry but given all of what he was supposed to be ... and all that he ultimately wasn't, there is no Seahawk who will ever top the Boz as far as Flash in the Pan is concerned. Most definitely he's the biggest of all time ...

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Warren Moon. Looked like our QBOTF after his first season in SEA, then played like a 40-something for the rest of his career. Just sad. Whatever happened to that guy?


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Warren Moon. Looked like our QBOTF after his first season in SEA, then played like a 40-something for the rest of his career. Just sad. Whatever happened to that guy?


He went on to become an absolutely horrible radio announcer.

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Byron Franklin. I think it was a knee that derailed his brief but promising career. Sat with him in the Kingdome against the Pack...very polite, nice young man.


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Flash in the pan? This guy fits in that catagory. Had such high hopes....

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Ahman Green, those first two years he had some great runs to the second level and then poof he was traded.


That was one of Holmy's F-ups. I believe it was a pre-season game played in Vancouver that Green put the ball on the carpet. To make an example of what happens to (awesome) RBs that fumble, Holmy let him go and that was just dumb as hell. I remember how he ran thru our awesome Dawg defense like a hot knife thru butter. When we drafted him I knew we had our RBOTF. Instead, he crushed it for the enemy.


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Michael Boulware for sure. Although, with Pete as his coach, I think he'd be damn good. He was miscast in a scheme that played two deep safeties on almost every play. In the box, playing short zones far more often, his strengths would be amplified and his weaknesses minimized. He might have been as good as Kam, he was a better athlete and had great ball skills to boot. Not as hard a hitter (funny that we're saying that about a former LB) but not bad in his own right.

Sean Locklear. He was so good in 2005, and below average every year after that. Can't believe we started him as long as we did.

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Dan McGwire.

I was going on 20 years old at the time, and was POSITIVE he would be the QBOTF. Plus he looked awesome at 6'8" with the dark visor. Out of the league a few years later, he'll be remembered as the guy who couldn't beat Stan Gelbaugh or Kelly Stouffer for a chance to start.

Made irrelevant by the above mentioned Rick Mirer.


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