Zebulon Dak wrote:Well I'm thinking Smitty has taken his job at this point, but I would think hope this type of info would make the moral condemners hold off on their judgement, at least for a little while.
pehawk wrote:Hill needs to learn compassion. He doesn't even have it for himself. Sad, really sad.
MysterMatt wrote:pehawk wrote:Hill needs to learn compassion. He doesn't even have it for himself. Sad, really sad.
True. Otherwise he'll only ever be a pathetic almost-was.
The Radish wrote:"I would take that to mean the facts are especially egregious."
Anytime anyone uses the word "egregious" in a sports forum he's out of line. To me that means they have decided to use this place as a courtroom rather than a place to talk sports.
jesus.....save it for a judge, nothing but common folks here.
cdallan wrote:MysterMatt wrote:
True. Otherwise he'll only ever be a pathetic almost-was.
Jesus. You've really got it in for Leroy Hill, don't you? Rein it in a little.
CANHawk wrote:The Radish wrote:"I would take that to mean the facts are especially egregious."
Anytime anyone uses the word "egregious" in a sports forum he's out of line. To me that means they have decided to use this place as a courtroom rather than a place to talk sports.
jesus.....save it for a judge, nothing but common folks here.
There's nothing common about me. I'm fabulous!
MysterMatt wrote:cdallan wrote:MysterMatt wrote:
True. Otherwise he'll only ever be a pathetic almost-was.
Jesus. You've really got it in for Leroy Hill, don't you? Rein it in a little.
Sort of a private joke. You couldn't be expected to understand.
MysterMatt wrote:That's a great point. I need to read sigs more often.
BallHawker wrote:Sounds like this is a bit more serious than him just standing in a doorway.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89033 ... 50000-bail
"According to a probable cause statement released during Thursday's hearing, Hill's girlfriend told police she was assaulted numerous times for more than five hours on Tuesday. The woman told police she was struck 15-to-20 times by Hill, including being hit with a bottle of alcohol in the legs and torso.
The woman told police she was restrained from leaving his residence for most of the day, and had her cellphone taken by Hill. The statement also says Hill used a knife to cut up two of the woman's purses and a pair of shoes."
Tim Booth @ByTimBooth
King County prosecutors office has decided not to file charges against Leroy Hill today. Say charging decision to come at later date.
drdiags wrote:Guess things will be in limbo for awhileTim Booth @ByTimBooth
King County prosecutors office has decided not to file charges against Leroy Hill today. Say charging decision to come at later date.
loafoftatupu wrote:While Domestic violence is no laughing matter, the police tend to charge (mostly men) just to cover their ass.
True story, while in my first home, in 1999, i had a Seahawk party with about 4 couples over watching the Monday night Green Bay game. We were pretty loud that night and it got me in trouble.
I think the WR was Mayes that scored, when I jumped up, accidentally tipping over a piece of art (made of iron) that fell into a window and busted it.
My nosey Mrs. Kravitz next door neighbor (old lady with serious drama issues) calls the police, claiming that my wife and I were fighting, when in fact the entire evening was full of raw happiness.
They showed up, even though the situation was explained and verified, the cops literally put me in cuffs and arrested me for Domestic Violence (Malicious Mischief) for property damage TO MY OWN PROPERTY.
Stating that my neighbor reported that my wife and I were fighting and yelling they took me in to the new Kent Jail down the hill. Since it was a DV charge, they automatically give a restraining order and would not let me out without posting 1500.00 bail which was posted before I was even processed. My wife demanded that there was no crime, no backing of charges yet it went to arraignment, literally the next day.
I tried to explain to the judge that this was a mistake, that it was completely ridiculous which she heard as a smart-ass comment and would not return my bail. After retaining a lawyer, the prosecutor literally tried to make a deal, to get me to accept the charge of Malicious Mischief to end the case which my lawyer called him on and told him he doesn't have any witnesses and that my wife was certainly not going to be a good one for them so they dropped it.
They confiscated my guns that night too. Took me 2 months to get them back WITH a lawyer. While I was not convicted, an arrest for DV showed up on my record and it nearly cost me my security clearance at work.
That game cost me about 1000 in legal fees and another amount to have just the arrest removed from my record because legally, if I was ever asked if I have been ARRESTED for a crime, that I had to answer yes until it was removed which was different than having a conviction removed.
So when Leroy Hill gets arrested for DV, I am not so quick to fall for the stories, even though he has been in trouble before. I don't think he would have been back anyways, but it is just an example of how quickly that charge can ruin your life. I get that we need to protect women from abusive men, so I am not saying that it is a bad law, but it sure has a way of taking a very harmful course on someone who is possibly guilty of nothing.
BallHawker wrote:Sounds like this is a bit more serious than him just standing in a doorway.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89033 ... 50000-bail
"According to a probable cause statement released during Thursday's hearing, Hill's girlfriend told police she was assaulted numerous times for more than five hours on Tuesday. The woman told police she was struck 15-to-20 times by Hill, including being hit with a bottle of alcohol in the legs and torso.
The woman told police she was restrained from leaving his residence for most of the day, and had her cellphone taken by Hill. The statement also says Hill used a knife to cut up two of the woman's purses and a pair of shoes."
loafoftatupu wrote:While Domestic violence is no laughing matter, the police tend to charge (mostly men) just to cover their ass.
Stating that my neighbor reported that my wife and I were fighting and yelling they took me in to the new Kent Jail down the hill. Since it was a DV charge, they automatically give a restraining order and would not let me out without posting 1500.00 bail which was posted before I was even processed. My wife demanded that there was no crime, no backing of charges yet it went to arraignment, literally the next day.
I tried to explain to the judge that this was a mistake, that it was completely ridiculous which she heard as a smart-ass comment and would not return my bail. After retaining a lawyer, the prosecutor literally tried to make a deal, to get me to accept the charge of Malicious Mischief to end the case which my lawyer called him on and told him he doesn't have any witnesses and that my wife was certainly not going to be a good one for them so they dropped it.
They confiscated my guns that night too. Took me 2 months to get them back WITH a lawyer. While I was not convicted, an arrest for DV showed up on my record and it nearly cost me my security clearance at work.
That game cost me about 1000 in legal fees and another amount to have just the arrest removed from my record because legally, if I was ever asked if I have been ARRESTED for a crime, that I had to answer yes until it was removed which was different than having a conviction removed.
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