Sherman explains to the world why he is better than Revis

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  • Axx wrote:
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    seahawk bandwagoners need to stop dreaming. Sherman is good, but he is no where NEAR Revis. Sherman’s success is due to that amazing pass rush they have.


    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


    Didn't you see the Green Bay game, our pass rush is pretty Godly.


    1 game at home and our pass rush is pretty Godly? Did you watch the ATL game? Pass rush no where near Godly. A few good games scattered throughout the season but nothing near elite. 18th in sacks this year and 19th last year. Jets 17th (2011), 8th (2010), 18th (2009), and 7th (2008). Pretty comparable and 2010 was Revis' worst year with a top 10 pass rush....

    That article also leaves out the part where he says something along the lines of “look at the numbers. stats during my first two seasons are better and i only started half the games during first season” in response to people constantly telling him much better Revis is.

    Point is he is on a Revis type path period. We'll see how the next 3-4 years but is there any reason to doubt he will continue to dominate?

    And YES he was responding to haters rubbing Revis in his face. Read the whole thing last night when I saw his picture comparing stats and though "wow why would he just randomly post this". You know instead of jumping to conclusions.

    Guess what Baldwin was also on there trolling 49er fans. Should we all start a thread bashing him too?
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  • Fox0r wrote:Pretty convenient for Sherm to leave out Darrelle Revis' pass defended numbers in that screenshot.

    As much as I love his confidence, his act is growing tiresome.


    Sorry for 2 posts in a row but don't be lazy and look at the stats. Passes defended by Revis...17 and 16 first two season. Passes defended by Sherman...17 and 24 first two seasons.

    Nice try though.
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  • ceej22 wrote:


    1 game at home and our pass rush is pretty Godly? Did you watch the ATL game? Pass rush no where near Godly. A few good games scattered throughout the season but nothing near elite. 18th in sacks this year and 19th last year. Jets 17th (2011), 8th (2010), 18th (2009), and 7th (2008). Pretty comparable and 2010 was Revis' worst year with a top 10 pass rush....

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    i was just kidding, everyone on this website knows our pass rush is awful and the one weakness on this team.
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  • Axx wrote:
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    1 game at home and our pass rush is pretty Godly? Did you watch the ATL game? Pass rush no where near Godly. A few good games scattered throughout the season but nothing near elite. 18th in sacks this year and 19th last year. Jets 17th (2011), 8th (2010), 18th (2009), and 7th (2008). Pretty comparable and 2010 was Revis' worst year with a top 10 pass rush....


    i was just kidding, everyone on this website knows our pass rush is awful and the one weakness on this team.[/quote]


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  • Scottemojo wrote:
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    -The Glove- wrote:This...it's one big mental game he's playing and I haven't seen him lose once yet.


    Guess you didn't see the Atlanta game.
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  • If these two become teammates, that day is going to be...AWKWARD.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    -The Glove- wrote:This...it's one big mental game he's playing and I haven't seen him lose once yet.


    Guess you didn't see the Atlanta game.


    I'm talking about in the entirety of a whole game. Yeah he lost on that one. But how many times did he beat White?
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  • Scottemojo wrote:If these two become teammates, that day is going to be...AWKWARD.


    Maybe Sherman knows about the upcoming trade and is trying to start a friendly competition between him and Revis.

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  • Scottemojo wrote:If these two become teammates, that day is going to be...AWKWARD.


    Or it could be awesome. Like Legolas and Gimli arguing over their kill count.
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  • Keep talking Sherm! Love the confidence.


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  • SouthSoundHawk wrote:Keep talking Sherm! Love the confidence.


    Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!


    .......sounds...titillating. You might have missed a letter there at the end, though...or something.
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  • I think that Sherm is a "necessary evil." I remember our old finesse team that was speedy but undersized on both offense and defense. I also remember how we used to be pushed around and manhandled by physical opposing teams.

    Now, I see the opposite. We're a large, strong team that still has the speed and athleticism. When we play teams now, we instill fear and apprehension into them. Our team has an intimidating presence. Games like the ones we had against the Cowboys, and Falcons, where their fans commented about how scared they were for their players, really made me proud as a fan.

    And without Sherman's pride and smack-talk, I don't think opposing teams would be AS scared of us. Sherm has bite in his words AND his play. He knows how to bring out a WRs frustrations and doubts, and ups the stakes until the WRs crumble under the pressure.

    For every white knight we have on our team (like Russell Wilson) we need a dark knight like Richard Sherman. Sure, the white knight gets a lot of the public love, the whole clean upstanding role-model vibe that people celebrate and write songs about. But a dark knight does the ugly things that, though absolutely necessary, might not garner him understanding or sympathy.

    Because Sherman's the hero Seattle deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll criticize him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a smack-talking guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
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  • Winterfell wrote:I think that Sherm is a "necessary evil." I remember our old finesse team that was speedy but undersized on both offense and defense. I also remember how we used to be pushed around and manhandled by physical opposing teams.

    Now, I see the opposite. We're a large, strong team that still has the speed and athleticism. When we play teams now, we instill fear and apprehension into them. Our team has an intimidating presence. Games like the ones we had against the Cowboys, and Falcons, where their fans commented about how scared they were for their players, really made me proud as a fan.

    And without Sherman's pride and smack-talk, I don't think opposing teams would be AS scared of us. Sherm has bite in his words AND his play. He knows how to bring out a WRs frustrations and doubts, and ups the stakes until the WRs crumble under the pressure.

    For every white knight we have on our team (like Russell Wilson) we need a dark knight like Richard Sherman. Sure, the white knight gets a lot of the public love, the whole clean upstanding role-model vibe that people celebrate and write songs about. But a dark knight does the ugly things that, though absolutely necessary, might not garner him understanding or sympathy.

    Because Sherman's the hero Seattle deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll criticize him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a smack-talking guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.


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  • Winterfell wrote:I think that Sherm is a "necessary evil." I remember our old finesse team that was speedy but undersized on both offense and defense. I also remember how we used to be pushed around and manhandled by physical opposing teams.

    Now, I see the opposite. We're a large, strong team that still has the speed and athleticism. When we play teams now, we instill fear and apprehension into them. Our team has an intimidating presence. Games like the ones we had against the Cowboys, and Falcons, where their fans commented about how scared they were for their players, really made me proud as a fan.

    And without Sherman's pride and smack-talk, I don't think opposing teams would be AS scared of us. Sherm has bite in his words AND his play. He knows how to bring out a WRs frustrations and doubts, and ups the stakes until the WRs crumble under the pressure.

    For every white knight we have on our team (like Russell Wilson) we need a dark knight like Richard Sherman. Sure, the white knight gets a lot of the public love, the whole clean upstanding role-model vibe that people celebrate and write songs about. But a dark knight does the ugly things that, though absolutely necessary, might not garner him understanding or sympathy.

    Because Sherman's the hero Seattle deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll criticize him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a smack-talking guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.



    Can this please be archived? :retard_clap:
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  • As long as Sherman isn't being a bad team mate, I don't see what the issue is.

    Dude talks the talk, and backs it up.
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  • SonicHawk wrote:I back Roland 100% in this thread.


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  • Why are people bringing up Atlanta when Sherman slipped on that TD? Furthermore, Kam was playing for a while with an injury, one that required surgery recently. Let's just lay off our guys for a bit and rejoice in the knowledge that we are witnessing the birth of something truly epic, and simply enjoy it. Oh, and i love the fact that Sherm talks trash, Go Hawks!
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  • OkieHawk wrote:Why are people bringing up Atlanta when Sherman slipped on that TD? Furthermore, Kam was playing for a while with an injury, one that required surgery recently. Let's just lay off our guys for a bit and rejoice in the knowledge that we are witnessing the birth of something truly epic, and simply enjoy it. Oh, and i love the fact that Sherm talks trash, Go Hawks!


    No, plenty of people around here would rather dance around in pink tutus talking about how gee-golly-awful the words coming out of Sherman's mouth are, and won't somebody please think of the children.
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  • This is such a non-issue. He posted the stats in response to incessant goading about him not being as good as Revis. The air heads and homers were talking baseless sh*t. All Sherman did was post the facts. Y'all could make a more informed judgement, by at least doing some homework rather than reading rhetoric that was clearly biased.
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  • bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Some of us just prefer a more ?dignified? approach to the game.... Think Cortez. Or Kenny Easley..

    Different Strokes.


    Spot on BFS. I am glad that Sherm is a Hawk because he can flat out ball. If he played for the Whiners, he would hands down be the most hated player in the NFL by people on this board in my opinion!
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  • My friend is a table dealer at Lucky Eagle Casino. Sherman sat down at his table a couple hours ago. The guy's such a thuggish, delinquent, classless gambleholic! :sarcasm off:
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  • Sherman's play on the field should speak for itself. But it doesnt because Sherman doesnt allow it to.

    Sad really.
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  • Fans are never the best people to ask whether certain players in the NFL are classy or an ass unless there's actual evidence I suppose. Not saying Sherman is a bad person he is one of the best CBs in the game so he should be a little full of himself. Although seeing some of the comments have been made about Colin Kaepernick it does show hypocrisy amongst fans.

    Fans look for anything to praise or destroy a player they love or hate. I mean look at the Kaepernick thread created. Fans have been calling him some harsh names just because he trademarked the maneuver where he kisses his biceps? How is that worse than some of the things Sherman tends to say before and after games either as an arrogant ass or as he once put a "bully who got bullied." I'm not bashing Sherman per say because I like the dude, and think like everyone else here that he's great, but I mean if Revis done this or a 49er done this to another player on the seahawks would you be happy about it? (Aldon Smith to Chris Clemons)

    I think Sherman needs to tone down his words unless he goes out there and has a monster game which I'm sure he'll have one again.
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  • I can't believe the negativity coming from fans. You're mad at him because he's excited to ball and he's worked his ass off so no one is better than him?

    I want our CBs to get in the WR/QBs head. I want them to take a split second to spot where Sherm is on the field.

    He's not talking about someone's mom or family... he's talking football. He's saying, come beat me. Let's build it up and make it happen on the field. He doesn't fight people, he doesn't bring people down, he props himself up and proves it on Sunday.

    It's gross that so many fans on here are against that. I guess we can always bring back Kelly Jennings, he was 'dignified'.
    I enjoy ruining threads by making them about personal attacks and then commenting about how personal attacks make the other person's argument invalid.

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  • Shinigami wrote:Fans are never the best people to ask whether certain players in the NFL are classy or an ass unless there's actual evidence I suppose. Not saying Sherman is a bad person he is one of the best CBs in the game so he should be a little full of himself. Although seeing some of the comments have been made about Colin Kaepernick it does show hypocrisy amongst fans.

    Fans look for anything to praise or destroy a player they love or hate. I mean look at the Kaepernick thread created. Fans have been calling him some harsh names just because he trademarked the maneuver where he kisses his biceps? How is that worse than some of the things Sherman tends to say before and after games either as an arrogant ass or as he once put a "bully who got bullied." I'm not bashing Sherman per say because I like the dude, and think like everyone else here that he's great, but I mean if Revis done this or a 49er done this to another player on the seahawks would you be happy about it? (Aldon Smith to Chris Clemons)

    I think Sherman needs to tone down his words unless he goes out there and has a monster game which I'm sure he'll have one again.

    Another lecture from a Niner fan?
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  • Hawkfan77 wrote:When did we become such a weak fanbase? Really, Sherm talking himself up is "tiresome"? Give me a break.

    He's one of the best, if not the absolute best, CB in the league. He has a huge chip on his shoulder for falling to the 5th round. If this gets him motivated, who are we to tell him to shut up? His play backs up his talk, I love it.



    Me too. I'm glad we have some players with a new attitude. Some balls for once. And of course this won't go unpunished by those one here that feel it is out of line.
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  • My praise of Sherman proves I'm a niner fan? I even said Sherman should be arrogant a little since he's one of the best in the game arguably the best.
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  • Shinigami wrote:My praise of Sherman proves I'm a niner fan? I even said Sherman should be arrogant a little since he's one of the best in the game arguably the best.


    No but you are so transparent none the less.
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  • How is he any different than the Glove back in the day? Enjoy it while you can because you all will miss it when it's gone.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:
    Shinigami wrote:My praise of Sherman proves I'm a niner fan? I even said Sherman should be arrogant a little since he's one of the best in the game arguably the best.


    No but you are so transparent none the less.


    Most of what I said I was praising Sherman for goodness sake I have a little problem with his attitude, not his play, but even then I'm not entirely against his cocky personality. I was talking about fans hypocrisy about how they can't see past their own hatred most of the time of an opposing team or player unless that player join their own ball club.
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  • Shinigami wrote:
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    Shinigami wrote:My praise of Sherman proves I'm a niner fan? I even said Sherman should be arrogant a little since he's one of the best in the game arguably the best.


    No but you are so transparent none the less.


    Most of what I said I was praising Sherman for goodness sake I have a little problem with his attitude, not his play, but even then I'm not entirely against his cocky personality. I was talking about fans hypocrisy about how they can't see past their own hatred most of the time of an opposing team or player unless that player join their own ball club.

    You didn't answer the question.
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  • SonicHawk wrote:I can't believe the negativity coming from fans. You're mad at him because he's excited to ball and he's worked his ass off so no one is better than him?




    The two things aren't exclusive. There are plenty of players who are the best at their position in the league that aren't so damn obnoxious. I love the guy, but he needs to tone it down.
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  • TundraApe wrote:How is he any different than the Glove back in the day? Enjoy it while you can because you all will miss it when it's gone.


    Social media seems to have something to do with it.
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  • You didn't answer the question.


    I'm not a niners fan, but they have things I like about them.

    I'm a Texan fan :(

    I'm not a Seahawk fan either, but I do like things about them. They're a young aggressive team, and I'm a big fan of Marshawn Lynch and his style of running which I could strangely watch forever since I think he's easily a top 3 back in the league. :shock:
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  • When was the last time we had a player who walked around with such an enormous vibrato?
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  • Seriously? Were constantly complaining we dont get respect. Sherman is demanding respect, and deserves it. He's the best CB in the NFL right now. This team isnt "finesse" or "nice" anymore.. If thats what your lookin for, go be a jags fan.
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  • Pstark3 wrote:Seriously? Were constantly complaining we dont get respect. Sherman is demanding respect, and deserves it. He's the best CB in the NFL right now. This team isnt "finesse" or "nice" anymore.. If thats what your lookin for, go be a jags fan.


    I think this is the best defense of Sherman. Put it succinctly Seahawks weren't getting a lot of respect even though they were a difficult team to beat for a good while. Once Sherman started talking to Brady after the game people started to notice a bit more, and he's one of the reasons why the Seahawks are getting more respect now, and his loudmouth does make people notice him more and the team also.

    Sherman can be a bit of a jerk, but the guy can play and can back up any trash talking he does.
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  • You can have the meanest guard dog on the block to protect your home. You pat him on the head when he fights off intruders, but don't call him a bad dog for using his bark to get inside the head of future intruders and make them second guess if they wanna set foot on your land.
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  • I wish he talked more. Seriously. Have him mic'd up weekly. Give him his own half hour Monday night show. It would be much watch tv.
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  • Mistashoesta wrote:You can have the meanest guard dog on the block to protect your home. You pat him on the head when he fights off intruders, but don't call him a bad dog for using his bark to get inside the head of future intruders and make them second guess if they wanna set foot on your land.



    wow, man. the analogy. my mind is shredded. but what if dog was spelled c a t?
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  • bestfightstory wrote:
    Mistashoesta wrote:You can have the meanest guard dog on the block to protect your home. You pat him on the head when he fights off intruders, but don't call him a bad dog for using his bark to get inside the head of future intruders and make them second guess if they wanna set foot on your land.



    wow, man. the analogy. my mind is shredded. but what if dog was spelled c a t?


    His name would be Kelly Jennings.
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  • Mistashoesta wrote:
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    Mistashoesta wrote:You can have the meanest guard dog on the block to protect your home. You pat him on the head when he fights off intruders, but don't call him a bad dog for using his bark to get inside the head of future intruders and make them second guess if they wanna set foot on your land.



    wow, man. the analogy. my mind is shredded. but what if dog was spelled c a t?


    His name would be Kelly Jennings.


    :th2thumbs:

    That was good. I do wish people would stop picking on the littlest and most obvious guy around though. Sherm shines as brightly when compared to someone like Trufant, IMO. People talked tons of shit in Wee Willie Williams for forever, too and that dude was a warrior (with limitations).
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  • I think Sherman is awesome. It's all about mis-direction and mirrors boyos. Get into the other guys' head and it makes the job that much easier, and from what we've seen, he's been able to back it up. What's the problem?? Haven't we all just been aching for a guy like this on our team? I think it's hilarious.
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  • Shinigami wrote:
    Pstark3 wrote:Seriously? Were constantly complaining we dont get respect. Sherman is demanding respect, and deserves it. He's the best CB in the NFL right now. This team isnt "finesse" or "nice" anymore.. If thats what your lookin for, go be a jags fan.


    I think this is the best defense of Sherman. Put it succinctly Seahawks weren't getting a lot of respect even though they were a difficult team to beat for a good while. Once Sherman started talking to Brady after the game people started to notice a bit more, and he's one of the reasons why the Seahawks are getting more respect now, and his loudmouth does make people notice him more and the team also.

    Sherman can be a bit of a jerk, but the guy can play and can back up any trash talking he does.


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  • I said in another thread some time back that Sherman is what Springs was suppose to be, Springs was good just not consistent and played blame game etc and acted like a premier guy without the results.
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  • I think hes just addressing the fact that its Pro Bowl weekend and hes not there.......and should be......he certainly hasn't crossed any imaginary line with me.
    Or maybe hes just reminding the Hawks of his value because of the Revis trade rumors.
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  • I understand that PR and smacktalk and ESPN and NFL Network 'respect' (ie circle jerks) are widely coveted around here. We want attention.... I just want to win. That requires players. We have a bunch now. Sherm is one of them and while I love his game, I'm not a fan of the schtick. It crosses (or flirts with crossing) a line for me. It's a line we all have for players of other teams. And our lines differ amongst ourselves. That's okay. It's just my preference. I hope I have explained myself well enough in this thread as to why.

    Everybody is so eager to choose one side or the other and demonize the opposite side around here, it seems.

    Oh well.

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  • I love Sherm, as well as his "schtick". To each their own.
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