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  • This a Dockett move if true. Come on Sherm, you went to Stanford for &@#%'s sake.
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  • I can't find anything on whether or not this is within the rules. I can't imagine it is.
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  • Ok so the first tweet, from a legal perspective, says nothing about SPORTS betting, let alone the nfl. He could be on slots. So, no problem there. Yeah he talks about the ravens player but doesn't explicitly connect them.

    Second tweet the guy says what do you "put on" the ravens. Sherm says "a lot". The word money or bet is not used.
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  • CaptainSkybeard wrote:Ok so the first tweet, from a legal perspective, says nothing about SPORTS betting, let alone the nfl. He could be on slots. So, no problem there. Yeah he talks about the ravens player but doesn't explicitly connect them.

    Second tweet the guy says what do you "have on" the ravens. Sherm says "a lot". The word money or bet is not used. Could be in the context of what info sherm has on the ravens receivers having watched them player. The "what" in that sentence is never established fully.

    Talk about a reach.

    Regardless, they'll have his name on the sportsbook if the NFL investigates.
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  • Ok, after some searching I'm going to retract my previous statements. Evidently the page that I had found probably was false regarding the betting. Here is something from March of last year:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/spo ... ct-243305/

    Nowhere is betting stated in it.
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  • Misread one word so I edited before you replied. Anyway, of course it's a reach but when legal things are involved it has to be 100% clear cut. Did you already forget his PED appeal?

    I agree on his name being in the book. The question is do they need a courts permission to request that info...
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  • OkieHawk wrote:Ok, after some searching I'm going to retract my previous statements. Evidently the page that I had found probably was false regarding the betting. Here is something from March of last year:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/spo ... ct-243305/

    Nowhere is betting stated in it.

    Could it be this:

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  • Possibly, but that is pretty vague and encompassing. I could see that getting tossed in a real court if used for something like this. If it were a Pete Rose type of deal then yea, or if it was a gambling addiction possibly. Who knows though with their horrible wording.
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  • Hawkstorian wrote:If there's a rule can someone link to it, otherwise we're just yelling at each other for no reason.

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  • Dude, you guys don't seriously think Sherman is this dumb do you?

    I would put money on it that his "a lot" of money on the ravens was laundered through one of his buddies that is with him with the bookie.

    C'mon guys.
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  • If this is a no no rules wise sure Sherman may not know so may not know not to say it. But don't forget Zach tweeted him back asking how much he put on em, there are two players in this, what are the odds on both players not being aware, esp a veteran like Zach? Not too high I'd say.
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  • HawksSoc wrote:If this is a no no rules wise sure Sherman may not know so may not know not to say it. But don't forget Zach tweeted him back asking how much he put on em, there are two players in this, what are the odds on both players not being aware, esp a veteran like Zach? Not too high I'd say.



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  • bestfightstory wrote:
    HawksSoc wrote:If this is a no no rules wise sure Sherman may not know so may not know not to say it. But don't forget Zach tweeted him back asking how much he put on em, there are two players in this, what are the odds on both players not being aware, esp a veteran like Zach? Not too high I'd say.



    Hahahaha. Are you talking about Zach House? That kid doesn't look like an NFL player to me.


    Bahaha misread the OP and am not on Twitter myself, balls! :179419:
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  • Stanford coach Bill Walsh once lobbied for an investigation into the U-Dub football program. Whether he knows it or not, Sherm is now lobbying for an investigation into Stanford's football program.
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  • HawkWow wrote:Stanford coach Bill Walsh once lobbied for an investigation into the U-Dub football program. Whether he knows it or not, Sherm is now lobbying for an investigation into Stanford's football program.

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  • If there is a rule on this why are we bringing attention to it on our forum? Never know who reads this
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  • CaptainSkybeard wrote:Ok so the first tweet, from a legal perspective, says nothing about SPORTS betting, let alone the nfl. He could be on slots. So, no problem there. Yeah he talks about the ravens player but doesn't explicitly connect them.

    Second tweet the guy says what do you "put on" the ravens. Sherm says "a lot". The word money or bet is not used.

    He was probably playing my favorite slot machine in Vegas, Wicked Winnings 2 which has "Ravens" in it.

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  • TheHawkster wrote:Where's Pete Rose when you need him?


    Same thing that came to mind for me, but didn't Pete Rose Bet against his own team, in a game he was playing in ?
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  • Not according to Pete. He admitted to gambling but place all the beta on the team prior to season starting knowing they would win more than lose. Don't think anything else has been proven

    I am surprised this is allowed. Searched around a bit and can't find anything against it BUT

    Refs can't gamble PERIOD in anything during season and has to report when gambling off-season with 24 hours

    Players were reprimanded / punished for being a part of investing into a future casino...
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  • bellingerga wrote:
    TheHawkster wrote:Where's Pete Rose when you need him?


    Same thing that came to mind for me, but didn't Pete Rose Bet against his own team, in a game he was playing in ?


    I don't think they officially determined that but betting on any games is strictly prohibited and I'd an automatic ban. Either way that's MLB not NFL so enough of Pete Rose.
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  • the first tweet just says he was winning money, which means he could be on the slots or at a table gettin' it poppin since he was texting I'll assume he was on the slots. The second tweet, okay you might have something, but was he making the bet amongst his friends? or was he making this bet with the bookies at the casino, that's the only question I have here.
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  • Betting on games has always been against the rules.For years all gambling of any kind was prohibited.NFL even stopped NFL players from playing in a charity poker event.I think that rule has been changed though.
    With Goodall and his "protect the shield" policy he could try to ban Sherman on conduct violations.
    If the NFL proves a player gambled on NFL games I bet he is looking at a year ban.
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  • Throwdown wrote:the first tweet just says he was winning money, which means he could be on the slots or at a table gettin' it poppin since he was texting I'll assume he was on the slots. The second tweet, okay you might have something, but was he making the bet amongst his friends? or was he making this bet with the bookies at the casino, that's the only question I have here.

    Sherm's smart enough to stay away from bookies. My bet is he said that to rile up Patriot fans. Non issue IMHO.
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  • man what's up with this dude... wish he'd just lay low and stop bringing attention to himself... well i know the niner boards know about it now, so it's out there widespread big time.
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  • From the
    Legue Policies for Players (synopsis)
    http://www.nflevolution.com/wordpress/w ... 1-5081.pdf


    NFL Gambling Policy
    • NFL players and coaches cannot take bribes to throw or fix a game. Playing or
    coaching at less than the very best and being paid to do so is against the law and a
    major violation of NFL policy.
    • Any attempts to bribe a player or coach, or knowledge of attempted bribes, must be
    reported immediately.
    • League employees (players, coaches, and staff) are prohibited from betting on any
    NFL game.
    • Associating with gamblers or gambling activity is against NFL policy.
    • Endorsing or promoting gambling, even if the gambling is legal, is against NFL policy.
    This includes cruise or casino appearances
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  • I'm sure it's been said somewhere else, but I find it funny that if the NFL has a policy against players gambling that they have ads for casinos in the stadiums...
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  • All he has to say is that he was just making comments to troll Patriots fans, which might actually be the case.
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  • People want to act as Sherman's lawyer but Sherman is just asking for trouble here. It is simply Stupid. Why invite scrutiny?
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  • Sherman needs to do two things.

    - Shut up

    - Find Largent80's bookie, because I bet he could have got like +2000 odds on the Ravens to cover.
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  • chrispy wrote:From the
    Legue Policies for Players (synopsis)
    http://www.nflevolution.com/wordpress/w ... 1-5081.pdf


    NFL Gambling Policy
    • NFL players and coaches cannot take bribes to throw or fix a game. Playing or
    coaching at less than the very best and being paid to do so is against the law and a
    major violation of NFL policy.
    • Any attempts to bribe a player or coach, or knowledge of attempted bribes, must be
    reported immediately.
    • League employees (players, coaches, and staff) are prohibited from betting on any
    NFL game.
    • Associating with gamblers or gambling activity is against NFL policy.
    • Endorsing or promoting gambling, even if the gambling is legal, is against NFL policy.
    This includes cruise or casino appearances

    Yea, he messed up. Bad.
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  • Could he be suspended? How long would it be for?
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  • Like a bunch of gossiping housewives... sheesh.

    the bet could have been with a buddy to wash cars for all anyone knows...
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  • this thread should be deleted for obvious reasons, good grief
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  • nwgamer wrote:Like a bunch of gossiping housewives... sheesh.

    the bet could have been with a buddy to wash cars for all anyone knows...



    That's what I'm thinking, probably a personal bet with a friend. I doubt the NFL could (or would) do anything about that.

    And knowing how much Sherman likes to talk, he may not even be in Vegas.
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  • The fact that this site is the only one talking about this lets you know that its a non issue. We have officially entered the off season..
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  • taz291819 wrote:
    nwgamer wrote:Like a bunch of gossiping housewives... sheesh.

    the bet could have been with a buddy to wash cars for all anyone knows...



    That's what I'm thinking, probably a personal bet with a friend. I doubt the NFL could (or would) do anything about that.

    And knowing how much Sherman likes to talk, he may not even be in Vegas.


    He took a pic with the Mexican Bumble Bee...he's in Vegas.

    And why delete this thread? It's not like the NFL hasn't noticed his tweets if there's an issue there.
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  • Killa Kam wrote:The fact that this site is the only one talking about this lets you know that its a non issue. We have officially entered the off season..


    I have seen it on at least three other sites

    Sherman just triumphed over the league but Godell doesn't seem like a guy to hold a grudge....

    This is majorly stupid assuming that player conduct still holds up and this thread is irrelevant the tweets are forever...
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  • It's interesting that this hasn't popped up on any sports news page.
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  • QuickLightning wrote:It's interesting that this hasn't popped up on any sports news page.

    Agreed.
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  • QuickLightning wrote:It's interesting that this hasn't popped up on any sports news page.



    They're gonna go with the "oh we knew it for months" but just wanting to make it public before the first week for the season.
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  • You guys really think Sherman is breaking rules and tweeting about it? Do you really think he's that stupid? Wow. No respect.
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  • His season is over and he is betting on a game he is (presumably legally) betting on a game he isn't involved. I've never heard how that is against the code of conduct.
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  • AbsolutNET wrote:His season is over and he is betting on a game he is (presumably legally) betting on a game he isn't involved. I've never heard how that is against the code of conduct.


    Current CBA:
    http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf

    From page 261 (page 276 of the pdf file):

    15. INTEGRITY OF GAME. Player recognizes the detriment to the League and pro-fessional football that would result from impairment of public confidence in the honest and orderly conduct of NFL games or the integrity and good character of NFL players. Player therefore acknowledges his awareness that if he accepts a bribe or agrees to throw or fix an NFL game; fails to promptly report a bribe offer or an attempt to throw or fix an NFL game; bets on an NFL game; knowingly associates with gamblers or gambling activity; uses or provides other players with stimulants or other drugs for the purpose of attempting to enhance on-field performance; or is guilty of any other form of conduct reasonably judged by the League Commissioner to be detrimental to the League or pro-fessional football, the Commissioner will have the right, but only after giving Player the opportunity for a hearing at which he may be represented by counsel of his choice, to fine Player in a reasonable amount; to suspend Player for a period certain or indefinitely; and/or to terminate this contract.
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  • • League employees (players, coaches, and staff) are prohibited from betting on any NFL game.

    It's common sense.
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  • Well, in that case, nevermind...
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  • Is it possible that Sherm is stupid enough to believe he can break serious NFL rules, snitch on himself on twitter about it and still get away with it? Sure. I'll go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt though.
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  • What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas (unless you put it on Twitter).
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