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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:50 am 
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Tubbs was drafted directly before or after Steven Jackson I do remember that.


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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:56 am 
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The notion that Howard didn't see the field because of depth and quality ahead of him feels wrong to me. McDonald had a bad year, and saw the field and active roster a ton. Probably because we didn't have anyone else better to take that role.

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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
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To the knucklehead who didn't get my reference; um, I meant Jaye Howard got the same treatment Tate did in year one.

I'm with ya Jerhawk81, sounds odd to me. This is a dude who's only strenght is collapsing the pocket and he gets beat out by Scruggs, 7th rounder who barely played in college.

I got to go tend to my daughter, she's up with her Tubbs syndrome.


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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
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If we had not signed Quinn i would not have been surprised to see Howard cut next year. PC/JS are way to active to keep a unutilized DT for another season. I am happy Scruggs did so well, but considering Howard was a 4th round pick Howard has been a dissapointment. Not to say he is a bustbut his first season was sure a bust. Lane, Guy, Sweezy, and Suggs all got more playing time and were later picks.

I hope Howard can turn it on but I also expect us to bring in 2-3 mroe DLine through the draft and FA and with a tough competition in the preseason he will have a hard time making the roster next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
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if Tubbs didn't have knee problems, he would be exactly the type of D Lineman the Hawks would love to have now


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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:43 am 
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If we had not signed Quinn i would not have been surprised to see Howard cut next year. PC/JS are way to active to keep a unutilized DT for another season. I am happy Scruggs did so well, but considering Howard was a 4th round pick Howard has been a dissapointment. Not to say he is a bustbut his first season was sure a bust. Lane, Guy, Sweezy, and Suggs all got more playing time and were later picks.

I hope Howard can turn it on but I also expect us to bring in 2-3 mroe DLine through the draft and FA and with a tough competition in the preseason he will have a hard time making the roster next year.


Yeah, Howard is definitley in that bottom 1/3 of the roster that Pete and John like to keep under a constant churn. I love that concept as it makes the cream rise to the top. Having Quinn on board now likely gets Jaye a little more... not sure what the right word is... attention maybe...? opportunities...? I dunno, but I don't think it gives him any kind of license to under-achieve. Being a USC guy didn't give anyone any special treatment under Pete, so I don't think being a Florida guy is going to give anyone any special status under Quinn.

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 Post subject: Re: Jaye Howard
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Howard will now need to 'show me' to the coaching staff to stick around. He's reported to have a good first step and reasonable power pass rushing so I guess we'll see

At present the reasons why he hasn't passed up the others on the DLine are not transparent but it appears he was out-competeted by them. Seems to be an underachiever so far.

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