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I was dreaming of the 'hawks last night -- like every night -- and I suddenly caught myself thinking of the nightmare scenario of Mark Sanchez coming to Seattle as a backup.

Well, today I was on Twitter and found that someone posted that their is a 'rumor' that Sanchez is heading to Seattle to be the backup...

This cannot be true. I want absolutely no part of that heartless, unmotivated, expletive, expletive, coming to Seattle. He would be worse than a disease to the team. He holds no value, and what would be gained by him coming here?

Please tell me this scenario won't happen!

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@makeitmorain true. Rumor is flynn to az, Sanchez to Seattle as a backup. The ole USC connection

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This isn't going to happen but Sanchez as a back up is far from a nightmare scenario.

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Zebulon Dak wrote:
This isn't going to happen but Sanchez as a back up is far from a nightmare scenario.


HA, maybe for you! Personally, I absolutely despise Mark Sanchez. He has no heart for the game. No leadership. Nothing.


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This isn't going to happen but Sanchez as a back up is far from a nightmare scenario.


HA, maybe for you! Personally, I absolutely despise Mark Sanchez. He has no heart for the game. No leadership. Nothing.


If it was as a starter I'd agree. But as a back up? Who cares. He's not even gonna see the field anyway.

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Why in the world would we want a vastly overpaid and completely useless quarterback? JS would never even consider such a silly trade.


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From a cap perspective, the Jets simply can't afford to get rid of Sanchez - it would be excessively cost prohibitive.

They are stuck with him for the short term.

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I wouldn't worry about this too much. Sounds like someone just trying to get attention. From a football perspective, there is nothing that makes any sense about this...not to mention sending Flynn to a division rival who only really lacks a competent QB.

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The only way we give Flynn to AZ is if he sucks.

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From a cap perspective, the Jets simply can't afford to get rid of Sanchez - it would be excessively cost prohibitive.

They are stuck with him for the short term.

100% true. I believe it would cost the Jets $17 million against the cap if they traded or released him this year.

I also have a hard time believing that Flynn would be traded to a team in the division. Reporters like this just say anything they flipping want to because there is no recourse for it. Flynn might be a possibility for them, but they don't even have a head coach yet. Why would they look at quarterbacks before they even decide what kind of offense they are going to run?

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Why would we sign a QB who can't throw or run?

Where's Vince Young?

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Anytime someone brings up the "USC Connection", it's complete speculation and BS.

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I honestly wouldn't mind having TJack back as the 2nd QB and trade Flynn elsewhere.

I know most people would say he's dumb and has no football IQ as a QB. But he has the physicality in the zone read offense we implemented for Wilson.

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Zebulon Dak wrote:
The only way we give Flynn to AZ is if he sucks.


Truth. Unless there was a way to get Fitz in return and we know that ain't happenin'.


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Why would we want to make the Cards better by trading them Flynn?

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Zebulon Dak wrote:
bigdaddydave wrote:
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This isn't going to happen but Sanchez as a back up is far from a nightmare scenario.


HA, maybe for you! Personally, I absolutely despise Mark Sanchez. He has no heart for the game. No leadership. Nothing.


If it was as a starter I'd agree. But as a back up? Who cares. He's not even gonna see the field anyway.



Careful with your words. We dont want any jinx's happenin' .

I'm not to worried about Sanchez as a back up but that may be because i've become too faithful to Pete and Co turning mediocre or unknown players in to high quality athletes.

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NO WAY we trade Flynn to Arizona unless they offer 2 firsts or some other ridiculous package (Fitzgerald or Dockett + a pick). I'd still have to think hard about answering a division rivals QB question for them.


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Ugh. Honestly, this is why I hate the offseason. Remember when it was all about Carson Palmer? I hate nonsense like this. This scenario has absolutely zero chance of actually happening in real life We know that JS isn't stupid enough to bring in Sanchez with as much as it would cost us for little value in return, and we know that he's definitely not stupid enough to trade Flynn to a division rival who would instantly become a thorn in our side with a decent QB throwing to Fitz. This whole thing is just stupid and I'd like the mods to lock it.

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I am half hoping Sanchez gets cut and signs here to play QB now. Just so the OP poops himself a little.

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NO WAY we trade Flynn to Arizona unless they offer 2 firsts or some other ridiculous package (Fitzgerald or Dockett + a pick). I'd still have to think hard about answering a division rivals QB question for them.


I don't think there's even a parallel universe where our FO doesn't give up Flynn for a single 1st rounder, even to a division rival.

They can free themselves of his contract, have an extra 1st rounder to fill glaring holes (hello, D-line), feel altruistic about giving Flynn the chance to start somewhere else, and have plenty of knowledge of his strengths and weaknesses whenever they have to play him.

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We would need a backup qb with some mobility that is similar to DangeRuss. TJack wouldn't be a bad option imo. I just know that we won't be getting a sraight up pocket passing backup. Even tho I don't feel Sanchez would be a bad backup Qb in this league.


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Sanchez was a good college quarterback. Just like Tebow. But I am willing to bet Pete Carroll knows more than anyone, that Sanchez is no NFL quarterback. Not every college stud can lead an NFL team. Luckily for us, we got a stud that can.

I would rather have Matt Hasselbeck back as a 2nd string. If Flynn doesn't stay in Seattle (which I doubt he will) then I can only see a veteran QB coming in to backup Wilson.

Would you rather have Tebow or Sanchez as backup? One is poison in the locker room, while the other is a huge distraction thanks to outlandish media attention.

Anyway, a real nightmare would be a trade: Flynn for Sanchez and a draft pick. Even if it was a second round pick and Sanchez for Flynn, I wouldn't take it. I would rather trade Flynn for a second round pick, straight up, lol! If they won't do that then, do it. But keep the pick and release Sanchez the second he steps of the plane in Seattle, lmao!

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NO WAY we trade Flynn to Arizona unless they offer 2 firsts or some other ridiculous package (Fitzgerald or Dockett + a pick). I'd still have to think hard about answering a division rivals QB question for them.


I don't think there's even a parallel universe where our FO doesn't give up Flynn for a single 1st rounder, even to a division rival.

They can free themselves of his contract, have an extra 1st rounder to fill glaring holes (hello, D-line), feel altruistic about giving Flynn the chance to start somewhere else, and have plenty of knowledge of his strengths and weaknesses whenever they have to play him.


That would be awesome, however I don't think Flynn is worth a 1st round pick. Not even late in the 1st. He's worth the 2nd or even 3rd round.

Flynn does tend to be overvalued, so who knows.. But reality is that the guy has been in the NFL how long? And he's only played a couple games. He did look good and he looks great in the preseason, but you just don't know how (or if) Matt Flynn can lead a team an entire season. If he can come from behind to win. Not just come into a game when you're already beating up on a team and throw a few completions.

I'm not saying he can't do all that, and be a legit starting QB in the NFL. Simply saying that no one really knows at this point. So I don't think any reasonable GM is going to trade a 1st round pick on a quarterback that's not a proven starter. The sad part is its not even his fault. He has not had a chance to prove himself. Apart from having the open competition for the starting job here, and losing it. But who could have seen that coming? Flynn was most likely caught by surprise.

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NO WAY we trade Flynn to Arizona unless they offer 2 firsts or some other ridiculous package (Fitzgerald or Dockett + a pick). I'd still have to think hard about answering a division rivals QB question for them.


I don't think there's even a parallel universe where our FO doesn't give up Flynn for a single 1st rounder, even to a division rival.

They can free themselves of his contract, have an extra 1st rounder to fill glaring holes (hello, D-line), feel altruistic about giving Flynn the chance to start somewhere else, and have plenty of knowledge of his strengths and weaknesses whenever they have to play him.


That would be awesome, however I don't think Flynn is worth a 1st round pick. Not even late in the 1st. He's worth the 2nd or even 3rd round.

Flynn does tend to be overvalued, so who knows.. But reality is that the guy has been in the NFL how long? And he's only played a couple games. He did look good and he looks great in the preseason, but you just don't know how (or if) Matt Flynn can lead a team an entire season. If he can come from behind to win. Not just come into a game when you're already beating up on a team and throw a few completions.

I'm not saying he can't do all that, and be a legit starting QB in the NFL. Simply saying that no one really knows at this point. So I don't think any reasonable GM is going to trade a 1st round pick on a quarterback that's not a proven starter. The sad part is its not even his fault. He has not had a chance to prove himself. Apart from having the open competition for the starting job here, and losing it. But who could have seen that coming? Flynn was most likely caught by surprise.


No, he's not worth a 1st. I don't think he'd garner a 2nd, either. MAYBE a 3rd if a team is desperate enough for him.

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No, he's not worth a 1st. I don't think he'd garner a 2nd, either. MAYBE a 3rd if a team is desperate enough for him.


In your opinion, who do you think would be interested in Matt Flynn's services and what do you think that team would be willing to give up for him?

I wonder if we can get a decent DE for Flynn... haha..

In my opinion, I think Buffalo is getting tired of 'what's-his-face' from Harvard. So they could be interested in trading for Flynn. Other potentials: New York Jets, Jacksonville Jaguars, Dallas Cowboys (Banking on them being done with Romo), Arizona Cardinals (If they have given up on Kolb) and maybe the Oakland Raiders.

Oh and I also agree on the third round pick. I'm going to be bold and predict the Cowboys release Romo this off-season and make a move for Matt Flynn (for a 3rd round pick). Dallas will also draft a quarterback, in the second round to be Flynn's backup. Or if Flynn has horrible luck, that rookie will be a stud and beat him out of yet another starting job.

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Unless the Jets think Sanchez is worth paying more for him to play on someone else's team, he wont be leaving NYC.


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No, he's not worth a 1st. I don't think he'd garner a 2nd, either. MAYBE a 3rd if a team is desperate enough for him.


In your opinion, who do you think would be interested in Matt Flynn's services and what do you think that team would be willing to give up for him?

I wonder if we can get a decent DE for Flynn... haha..

In my opinion, I think Buffalo is getting tired of 'what's-his-face' from Harvard. So they could be interested in trading for Flynn. Other potentials: New York Jets, Jacksonville Jaguars, Dallas Cowboys (Banking on them being done with Romo), Arizona Cardinals (If they have given up on Kolb) and maybe the Oakland Raiders.

Oh and I also agree on the third round pick. I'm going to be bold and predict the Cowboys release Romo this off-season and make a move for Matt Flynn (for a 3rd round pick). Dallas will also draft a quarterback, in the second round to be Flynn's backup. Or if Flynn has horrible luck, that rookie will be a stud and beat him out of yet another starting job.


Wouldn't surprise me to see KC want to add Flynn to their QB competition.

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No, he's not worth a 1st. I don't think he'd garner a 2nd, either. MAYBE a 3rd if a team is desperate enough for him.


In your opinion, who do you think would be interested in Matt Flynn's services and what do you think that team would be willing to give up for him?

I wonder if we can get a decent DE for Flynn... haha..

In my opinion, I think Buffalo is getting tired of 'what's-his-face' from Harvard. So they could be interested in trading for Flynn. Other potentials: New York Jets, Jacksonville Jaguars, Dallas Cowboys (Banking on them being done with Romo), Arizona Cardinals (If they have given up on Kolb) and maybe the Oakland Raiders.

Oh and I also agree on the third round pick. I'm going to be bold and predict the Cowboys release Romo this off-season and make a move for Matt Flynn (for a 3rd round pick). Dallas will also draft a quarterback, in the second round to be Flynn's backup. Or if Flynn has horrible luck, that rookie will be a stud and beat him out of yet another starting job.


Wouldn't surprise me to see KC want to add Flynn to their QB competition.


That'd be great, especially if they gave up a 3rd (not that they would.) That's practically another 2nd rounder.

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I doubt it happens but I wouldn't mind it.

Think about it, so far as a starter, Sanchez has been terrible for the past 2 years. His first two years though? Pretty decent. The kid has talent, but is also in the NY spotlight on a team that needs attention for every reason. Take Sanchez out of the starting role and put him in "Southern Alaska" and I think that could be the best for him and as a backup I think he would be one of the better ones in the NFL.

But as for people automatically dismissing it because of USC, didn't we try to sign Lienart to be a backup?

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The only Vet back-up I want is Jackson again if Flynn is traded, Sanchez is terrible. He has not developed at all since his rookie season and has no mobility. Either trade Flynn and then get Jackson back or keep Flynn, both are good enough that if Russ missed a game or two they could at least give us a good chance to win. Sanchez and Tebow though, yuck.

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I doubt it happens but I wouldn't mind it.

Think about it, so far as a starter, Sanchez has been terrible for the past 2 years. His first two years though? Pretty decent. The kid has talent, but is also in the NY spotlight on a team that needs attention for every reason. Take Sanchez out of the starting role and put him in "Southern Alaska" and I think that could be the best for him and as a backup I think he would be one of the better ones in the NFL.

But as for people automatically dismissing it because of USC, didn't we try to sign Lienart to be a backup?


He doesn't have talent. His first 2 years epitomized the 'game manager' label. He didn't make plays to win games, he just played well enough not to lose them. they had a great running game, a good o-line and a fantastic defense those first 2 years.

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