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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:43 am 
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Matt Flynn is the future and this cannot be traded


Ha.

You should REALLY try to do the same thing next year with another player and position, that you did with Flynn this year. Maybe Obo or Butler? Every year argue with all of us over someone who should be starting. It'd be hysterical - and by that time no one will know its a ruse.

BIG PROPS to you for laughing at yourself and allowing us to laugh too. For real, big props.


Already drafting my Charly Martin over Sidney Rice thread. :mrgreen: :th2thumbs:

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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Given what has been said from the FO, they plan on taking a QB every year in the draft, I could see trading Flynn for a 2nd and drafting a QB like Matt Scott, in the 4th or 5th.

As far as having a backup thats already in the league, IMO Flynn is the best option so, if the FO wants to have a vetern presence backing up Wilson, they will stick with Flynn, unless someone offers way to much (which won't happen)

But I could see a 2nd for Flynn due to weak QB class, and lots of QB needy teams.


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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Like it's been said earlier, our FO wants the best for all our guys. Flynn will never be the starter here and he has the ability to be a Matt Schaub type QB for some team. I think if they can get a reasonable deal for him they would do it for a)Flynn's sake b)cap room c)draft ammo.

If Buffalo goes in a different direction at QB, I wouldn't mind taking Fitz for cheap if he doesn't get any better looks. He's been a starter for awhile and could be a good backup I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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I'll spend a 4-5th rounder as our back up to make sure he's cheap, and can run the same stuff RW runs.

EJ Manuel fits the bill for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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I will take T Jack because most of the Seahawks are familiar with him and respect him. I really think the choice in trading him away this past year had a lot to do with what they are paying Flynn. Flynn probably does want a chance to start somewhere, so maybe he follows Bradley since it looks like Gus is gone.

I am also willing to bet T Jack would be okay with being older and yet capable of learning from Wilson. And last, dude is all class and if we get a ring, why not let him get one too?

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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I would have said Ryan Nassib if you posed this question a month or so ago, but it appears that interest in him is rising to the point of at least a Day 2 pick - too high for a backup

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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Nasib SHOULD be a day 3 guy. The fact he isn't makes trading Flynn more possible, no matter what anyone else says. This isn't a year with 4 1st round QB's like last year. If flynn was a FA this year, he'd get A LOT more money.

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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pehawk wrote:
Dib, good stuff. IIRC, kearly listed Flynn's hit as $7M in '13. That change your mind?

There's no way to know for sure, but Wilson seems like an Eli, Peyton, Marino type player who will avoid injury.


I remember Peyton being out for awhile recently - how did that work out?

I remember Brady being out for a season and while you don't mention him I have to consider him very durable

Guys gets injured a superbowl caliber team should at least still be in the playoff hunt


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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Dib, good stuff. IIRC, kearly listed Flynn's hit as $7M in '13. That change your mind?

There's no way to know for sure, but Wilson seems like an Eli, Peyton, Marino type player who will avoid injury.


I remember Peyton being out for awhile recently - how did that work out?

I remember Brady being out for a season and while you don't mention him I have to consider him very durable

Guys gets injured a superbowl caliber team should at least still be in the playoff hunt


Really? Peyton got hurt at 35, after being injury-free over a decade. For real man, that's the dumbest reply I've seen in sometime. Just plain dumb, it missed the point.

Way to contribute to the thread with your ideas at QB. You should have a blog.

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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I'll spend a 4-5th rounder as our back up to make sure he's cheap, and can run the same stuff RW runs. EJ Manuel fits the bill for me.

How many snaps do you give that 4th-5th rounder rookie then in order to make sure he knows what to do if called on? Would EJ Manuel be ready to win NFL games as a rookie in a new system even if we gave him half of the snaps in training camp? Finally, how much does giving that many snaps to somebody besides Russell Wilson for the second consecutive year slow down Wilson's growth as our franchise QB? I know that sounds like a lot of questions, but I am stunned by all the fans that put little to no value in having a veteran backup.

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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pehawk wrote:
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Dib, good stuff. IIRC, kearly listed Flynn's hit as $7M in '13. That change your mind?

There's no way to know for sure, but Wilson seems like an Eli, Peyton, Marino type player who will avoid injury.


I remember Peyton being out for awhile recently - how did that work out?

I remember Brady being out for a season and while you don't mention him I have to consider him very durable

Guys gets injured a superbowl caliber team should at least still be in the playoff hunt


Really? Peyton got hurt at 35, after being injury-free over a decade. For real man, that's the dumbest reply I've seen in sometime. Just plain dumb, it missed the point.

Way to contribute to the thread with your ideas at QB. You should have a blog.


Since you decided to not have a polite discussion - way to understand a point maybe you should go back to reading cartoons instead. Any qb can get injured from one hit. Brady has hardly been out at all and one hit he was out for a season. Peyton missed all of pre-season one year and the timing was off next year. He got hit and missed a whole season and the team tanked - the point was that regardless of durability you can't bank your whole freaking team on one player and have a horrible backup like Chicago now did two years in a row.

My ideas on qb was in a prior post and better than "I don't THINK RW will get injured so we don't even need a backup" thought process...


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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That actually wasn't my idea, at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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So what was your highly valuable post about then that provided such great information? You either are of the belief that RW won't get injured and we can throw any crap in there as backup or your post about how other qb's weren't getting injured has zero value.

Which is it?

It is a F-ing message board where we exchange ideas and thoughts about OUR team. Your reply post to me was uncalled for and while you may disagree you brought nothing to the table. You can call me sensitive but I call this bs out here and elsewhere when it doesn't add any value and doesn't belong in the kind of discussion that is going on


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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I know some will want to keep Flynn, but I think he gets traded. It makes to much cap sense, and it also goes along with this FO doing "right" by their players.

Flynn wants to start, and I think the Seahawks FO will do whatever they can, within reason, to facilitate Flynn's preference. I'm a proud Seahawks fan for a lot of reasons, but I was really proud of how the FO treated Tavaris last preseason. He was traded instead of being released outright; to give him some dignity (maybe there's a better word choice there) on the way out. Tjax EARNED that type of exit...he's one classy and tough SOB.
You?

There is no Quarterbacks that can cerebrally duplicate Wilson, not even RGIII.
And although I believe there would be a big drop-off if Russell Wilson were to be out for awhile, I'd look for a playing style I think would best fit the mode of play by the Seahawks Offense/Wilson.
How old is Seneca?, I like TJ, and maybe a developmental guy like maybe Portis.
BUT, I think Robinson would fill in at #3 if needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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No love for Portis?

IIRC: Clayton said the hit for Flynn would be 5mil, with 2 or 3 mil guaranteed.

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I'd take Gradkowski and Matt Moore off that list for certain.

Not sure about Chase Daniel.

I like Jack Daniels....uh....oh.....uh.....never mind. :34853_doh:


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keith price for the win!


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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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Adam Schefter on ESPN just stated that there doesn't seem to be any interest in Flynn as a possible starter any where around the league with the possible exception of the Chiefs.


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keith price for the win!

Keith Price for yet another interception is more like it.
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Matt Moore please.

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 Post subject: Re: Assuming Flynn's traded - who do you want?
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Adam Schefter on ESPN just stated that there doesn't seem to be any interest in Flynn as a possible starter any where around the league with the possible exception of the Chiefs.


Andy Reid - makes perfect sense if he goes for Flynn and I think he would make him a success


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