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 Post subject: Re: D.C. Since Bradley has bolted
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Dan Quinn would be a great choice. What he has done with the Florida defense has been impressive. He is familiar with the system, and expectations - and could be paid a load of money from Allen. But is he frustrated at the fact that he was not chosen originally as DC when brought in by Pete? Quinn seemed to be preferred coach for the position, but then Gus was brought back as DC. He is also a East Coast guy, only spending two short stints on the West Coast - 2 years with SF and one year with Seattle. I think it is the best choice, but I get the feeling it is a long shot


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Dan Quinn would be an upgrade to Bradley IMO. Similar style, but his speciality was Dline pressure, and stopping run. Florida was exceptional at both of those categories last year.

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Ya, i'd be pretty happy with Quinn. He is a D-Line guy and to be frank ours needs quite abit of work


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Who is your choice for DC if Bradley leaves?

I am undecided.

You guys think Romeo Crennell fit the bill for your D? He is an AMAZING D coordinator! (who has had AWFUL luck as a HC)


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I doubt we go with a guy like Romeo or Lovie. This is Pete's defense and whoever comes in won't be able to do their thing. Guys that have been around and been head coaches don't fit that profile, imo.

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If were keepin on the PC connection, another name i've seen is Joe Berry. Currently Linebackers coach with the Chargers and apparently worked under Carroll at SC albeit briefly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Barry

Also, Marinelli would be awesome.

Barry worked as LB coach under Kiffin after Pete left for Seattle.

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If were keepin on the PC connection, another name i've seen is Joe Berry. Currently Linebackers coach with the Chargers and apparently worked under Carroll at SC albeit briefly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Barry

Also, Marinelli would be awesome.

Barry worked as LB coach under Kiffin after Pete left for Seattle.


Holy heck did I get my years mixed up there. /brews another pot of coffee


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There is a "strong possibility" Florida DC Dan Quinn will return to Seattle to replace Gus Bradley as DC, though CLEV and PHIL interested.

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There is a "strong possibility" Florida DC Dan Quinn will return to Seattle to replace Gus Bradley as DC, though CLEV and PHIL interested.


PC should have his pick of litter. I can't imagine why any aspiring coach would not frothing at the mouth to coach the Hawks' D. I'm not worried about any other teams being more appealing roster-wise, but obviously compensation is just as important.


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Another name (didn't read all current 5 pages) is Ray Horton. I saw references that he may not be retained if Arians comes on board. Not sure his style meshes with Pete but folks wouldn't be complaining about soft zones I bet.

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It doesnt matter. PC runs the defense.

I expect to elevate one of our own.


What does this mean exactly and where's your proof?

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Another name (didn't read all current 5 pages) is Ray Horton. I saw references that he may not be retained if Arians comes on board. Not sure his style meshes with Pete but folks wouldn't be complaining about soft zones I bet.


This is why Bevell will end up getting the AZ job. Arians already has a DC, forget whom, but he's not going to budge on it.

Although, I wish you're statement was probable. I dont know why, but having a brother with cornrows running a defense just feels right to me. That's either racism or years or narcotics use.


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There is a "strong possibility" Florida DC Dan Quinn will return to Seattle to replace Gus Bradley as DC, though CLEV and PHIL interested.


I really hope this is true. If Quinn is looking to be an NFL head coach at any point, Seattle is a going to be a great place to get his name out there if Seattle has another top 5 defense next year. (Ironically enough given our South Alaska location.)

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It doesnt matter. PC runs the defense.

I expect to elevate one of our own.


What does this mean exactly and where's your proof?

Ray Horton brings nasty QB pressure and he's from Seattle. Make it happen


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Dan Quinn seems to be the most logical choice. Would be a real seamless transition.

Sounds more and more like Lovie Smith is sitting 2013 out. He wants a HC job.

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As others pointed out, Ray comes from the Pittsburgh/Bengals Labeau 3-4 style, so having him mesh with Pete's 4-3 under may not be the best of fits. Sounds like Dan Quinn makes the most sense but the point about him leaving to go to Florida after Bradley got DC from Mora and then with Pete, we will have to see if he wants to come back to the PNW. Not sure he does.

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Quinn is going to go to JAX with Bradley. They are already close and with Quinn at the University of Florida, it's a short move for him too. Quinn was the one who suggested the Red Bryant experiment though so I'm not sure if him coming back would be a good thing.

What about AZ's DC?


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I know the conventional wisdom is Pete WONT switch to a 3-4, but I'm not so sure. He's done nothing BUT adapt and change his ways since joining the team. From Bates, from flirting w/ J McDaniel, from Bandit, Hass, Tjack, Wilson's zone-read, he's adapted when he's had to. The Hawks defense is actually built for a 3-4, from a personnel perspective.

Pete would do it, if he thought it was best. Hell, he let Gus call the plays.


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I know the conventional wisdom is Pete WONT switch to a 3-4, but I'm not so sure. He's done nothing BUT adapt and change his ways since joining the team. From Bates, from flirting w/ J McDaniel, from Bandit, Hass, Tjack, Wilson's zone-read, he's adapted when he's had to. The Hawks defense is actually built for a 3-4, from a personnel perspective.

Pete would do it, if he thought it was best. Hell, he let Gus call the plays.


Sure we could do that but having few 3-4 defenders even with a hybrid D makes it less likely and it's going away from PC's strengths. Fix the DL with a vet and a few rooks and it'll be fine. Complicate it was an overhaul and move to a 3-4? We would miss the playoffs, I suspect, and that seems inconceivable and detrimental for a team on the rise like the Hawks


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It doesnt matter. PC runs the defense.

I expect to elevate one of our own.


What does this mean exactly and where's your proof?


I don't know what this means and have no proof, but I'll just add that in his book Pete says he prefers to promote from within the program and he encourages his coaches to move up when they have opportunities to do so, whether it be on his staff or with another team. That's why he has happy staff and happy players. He's not a tyrant and truly wants every member of the program to maximize their potential and achieve their goals.

In related news, Sando - for whatever reason - does not think Norton will move up:

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Do not think that is a consideration. RT @pdiehm: @espn_nfcwest maybe move Norton to DC?

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I don't know why we need to post about the Dan Quinn rumor in this thread but it's an interesting option:

"Florida defensive coordinator Dan Quinn is one of five finalists for the prestigious Broyles Award, presented to the nation's top assistant football coach.

In his second season with the Gators, Quinn has led the Gators to becoming one of the premier defenses in the nation. UF ranks third nationally in points allowed (12.9) the lowest in school history since 1964. The defense also ranks third in rushing yards allowed (96.58) and fifth in total yards allowed (282.6).The Gators are first in the nation in pass efficiency defense (91.50) and have forced 29 turnovers, tying for fifth nationally in turnover margin (+17). UF has allowed just five passing touchdowns this season, the second-fewest in the nation."

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Quinn is the only guy out there that can take Pete Carroll's principles, work with them, and actually take them to the next level. Seto, Norton, etc. will just be puppets if we're being honest with ourselves. Quinn is a DLine guru, exactly what we need right now, and can expand upon the talent this defense already has. If I'm Paul Allen, I'd pay a kings ransom to get Quinn back in Seattle.

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Quinn is my top choice, but pretty sure it won't happen since he could probably go to Jax if he wants to and have a short move.

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Quinn would be my guy but I have a feeling he is gonna stay at Florida or Gus will grt him to go to Jax.

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How about Ray Rhodes? I hear he brings a lot of QB pressure as well. :sarcasm_off:


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Quinn would be my guy but I have a feeling he is gonna stay at Florida or Gus will grt him to go to Jax.


Depends what his career or personal aspirations are. In Seattle, he'd have access to elite level talent and a playoff calibre team. He could parlay that into any job he wants in a few years. And it's not like he has zero-connection to Seattle.


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Quinn is the only guy out there that can take Pete Carroll's principles, work with them, and actually take them to the next level. Seto, Norton, etc. will just be puppets if we're being honest with ourselves. Quinn is a DLine guru, exactly what we need right now, and can expand upon the talent this defense already has. If I'm Paul Allen, I'd pay a kings ransom to get Quinn back in Seattle.


Dan Quinn not only knows the scheme, he ran it pretty much at Florida. He had a buck DE (Leo) played Shariff Floyd at 5 tech and then moved him inside and moved a little bit smaller D tackle Dominique Easley out at 5 tech then inside. Also would play some single deep safety at times to move Elam in the box because he is a thumper at SS, and would love to blitz the free Safety as well . The thing that worries me is they would struggle to get pressure with just the front 4 (doesn't help that his LEO was out all year with an ACL) but they weren't best at pressuring the quarterback, until the two freshman came into their own. They were well coached and always motivated and won Florida a lot of games, because the offense was horrendous. In 2010 they were horrible at forcing turnovers. He somehow changed that around, at times it would be ridiculous at how many fumbles they would force. Dan Quinn is my favorite coach at Florida, but the Hawks are my number 1 love, so I will be doing cartwheels if Quinn comes to Seattle.


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Quinn is the only guy out there that can take Pete Carroll's principles, work with them, and actually take them to the next level. Seto, Norton, etc. will just be puppets if we're being honest with ourselves. Quinn is a DLine guru, exactly what we need right now, and can expand upon the talent this defense already has. If I'm Paul Allen, I'd pay a kings ransom to get Quinn back in Seattle.


Word.

People talk a lot about it being "Pete's defense" and whoever the DC ends up being will just be a puppet. I don't really think that's true. Yes it's basically Pete's recipe, but he wants somebody with a really bright football mind who can have some real input on what spices to use. Pete doesn't seem like the type to waste time surrounding himself with "puppets" and "yes men". He would look for somebody with a similar defensive philosophy to his own so they aren't butting heads on the fundamental stuff, but somebody who also brings their own flavour to the table.

And considering the biggest weakness in the defense last year was generating pressure from the front 4 (which is what Pete desperately wants to do), it only makes sense to bring in a D-line specialist to run the D. The secondary is set with Kris Richard and doesn't need any greater level of attention that what it's getting now. Those guys are all pros back there (hell, half of them are litterally ALL PRO's).

Yes Pete seems to like to promote from within, but another thing I've noticed about Pete is that he seems to think of everyone thats ever been a part of his program or his staff to still be a part of his program. Even if they're no longer in the building. I can totally see Pete still thinking of Dan as one of "his guys" and bringing him back to the program in an increased role.

I think Dan's the man. Hopefully they open the wallet and get him back here.

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I would be down with Quinn coming back or promoting Seto. Quinn on the strength of his resume, and credit for moving Bryant to the five tech end. Seto promoted from within as the secondary was the strongest unit of the defense. Also, I would like to look for college DC and assistants to fill positions as our team is young, Kaepernick 2x a season, and we need coaches that have experience against diverse schemes the NFL is transitioning to.

No to any Gregg Williams or blitz happy DC, I want a sound base defense that utilizes rotational depth on the D-Line to create mismatches for pressure. Those blitz happy schemes only work for a short while and elite QB's tear those schemes apart.

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Disagree. I want MORE blitzing. Not blitzing wastes that secondary.


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Smooth transition. RT @seahawks: Seahawks name Dan Quinn defensive coordinator to replace Gus Bradley.

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Anyone.



It funny you say that given we blitzed on both plays in the last 31 seconds.


They sent one extra defender on a blitz (5-man front) and had a rookie safety coming off a 4-week suspension as the only guy sitting back in a soft zone by himself. So I wouldn't say it is that funny, especially considering it cost us the game.

I've still yet to hear one person explain to me why we had a rookie coming off a suspension being the only person assigned to cover the soft belly "underneath" where you know Atlanta is going to be sending Tony Gonzalez, only the best TE to ever play the game.

The worst part is knowing that ALL YEAR that opposing defenses were KILLING us right in the same area where Gonzalez caught that pass.

I will never forgive Gus Bradley for costing us a SuperBowl run. Goodbye and good riddance.

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LOL. Love it. That would actually be a better move than Gregg Williams, mastermind behind some of the worst defenses in NFL history.


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