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austinslater25
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Post subject: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:12 am |
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I'm curious why this isn't brought up more. Atlanta struggles against the run and I expect Lynch to have a big day because of it. But Atlanta also gave up a 100 yards a game against Newton this year. Everyone wants to talk about their passing offense and its matchup with our DB's. Our running game against this defense seems to be the most lopsided matchup of the game and that tends to bode well for Seattle. If they can't stop Wilson or Lynch it makes our zone read packages and our play action even tougher to defend. This is getting surprisingly little talk on the board....
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:13 am |
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True, but they also did really well against Bob Griffin's running.
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rideaducati
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:14 am |
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Seattle's offense as a whole is a great match up against the Failcons. Their offense vs. Seahawk defense is a wash.
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austinslater25
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:15 am |
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Griffin got hurt in one of the games against them if I'm not mistaken?
I agree. We have favorable match ups at almost every spot on offense. Looking forward to Wilson have a big day.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:17 am |
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austinslater25 wrote: Griffin got hurt in one of the games against them if I'm not mistaken?
I agree. We have favorable match ups at almost every spot on offense. Looking forward to Wilson have a big day. Yeah they knocked him out with a concussion, Cousins came in and threw 2 picks and Washington lost the game in the 4th quarter.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:19 am |
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What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:21 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Griffin didn't run out of bounds and took a big hit that may have cost them the game. Wilson is a lot shiftier than Griffin, if you're expecting the same type of quarterback play, you're in for a surprise.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:21 am |
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First of all you need to delineate mobile QBs vs Read Option QBs.
He faced 3 mobile QBs all season- Vick, RGIII, an Newton.
-Vick is not a read option QB so we can cancel him out. -RGIII is a read option QB, but they only ran it one time before he was concussed. -Newton is a read option QB, and ran the play multiple times over the 2 games period- he averaged 100 ypg and they absolutely obliterated them between D.williams/Stewart, and Newton the read option run. Newton was also able to shred them in the air as a result of it's effectiveness.
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Dirty Bird
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:22 am |
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12evanf wrote: austinslater25 wrote: Griffin got hurt in one of the games against them if I'm not mistaken?
I agree. We have favorable match ups at almost every spot on offense. Looking forward to Wilson have a big day. Yeah they knocked him out with a concussion, Cousins came in and threw 2 picks and Washington lost the game in the 4th quarter. Yep, he tried to run into the endzone. What he didn't realize was how fast Sean Weatherspoon's closing speed was. Which is why he got knocked out.
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rideaducati
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:23 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Mike Vick's team was awful all year and Bob was knocked out early. The Falcons haven't faced Wilson yet and there is no comparison to him except Drew Brees. Brees did well...we shall see.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:23 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Griffin ran ONCE before his concussion. The Eagles don't run much zone read stuff. Russell runs more like Cam than he does like Vick or Bob. The only difference is that Cam will truck a LB, Russ will throw a wicked pump fake and then break their ankles with a juke.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 am |
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rideaducati wrote: Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Mike Vick's team was awful all year and Bob was knocked out early. The Falcons haven't faced Wilson yet and there is no comparison to him except Drew Brees. Brees did well...we shall see. except for the 6 picks anyway.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 am |
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12evanf wrote: Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Griffin didn't run out of bounds and took a big hit that may have cost them the game. Wilson is a lot shiftier than Griffin, if you're expecting the same type of quarterback play, you're in for a surprise. Like I said our D closes in fast. They can handle the shifty dudes. It's the one's that outmuscle them who cause the problems.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:25 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: 12evanf wrote: austinslater25 wrote: Griffin got hurt in one of the games against them if I'm not mistaken?
I agree. We have favorable match ups at almost every spot on offense. Looking forward to Wilson have a big day. Yeah they knocked him out with a concussion, Cousins came in and threw 2 picks and Washington lost the game in the 4th quarter. Yep, he tried to run into the endzone. What he didn't realize was how fast Sean Weatherspoon's closing speed was. Which is why he got knocked out. What your language, Big Brother is watching....
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:33 am |
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If we CAN establish the run with Lynch, Wilson or both then we control the game (he who controls the game, controls the clock). If we struggle I don't expect us to win a shoot out.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:34 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Wilson is going to be a big problem. Atlanta's run D is not as stellar as you think it is. As your team begins to sell out to stop Marshawn, the play action is going to hurt big time.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:36 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. This would make perfect sense if you tackled Cam and he demolished you. If you need a better picture of that I have a video coming up starring Lynch and I will air it for you at 1pm on Sunday. The reason you guys did better with Vick and Griffin is because they run all over the place. It isn't because they were smaller right? You are going to get confused by RW's running out of the read option where he will run into big holes. Once you figure it out he will burn you for an accurate 50 yard pass down the field. Don't get confused of the missed bombs in the Redskins game pretty sure your turf will play very well into our hands
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:36 am |
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If the offense just does there thing they will score a decent amount of points. The game will be decided by whether our D can get a couple unexpected stops.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:37 am |
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Wilson's running ability, coupled with a precocious sense of situation decision making, will be a difference in this game. And our ability to run against Atlanta fits into the base strategy to contain Atlanta's offense: keep Atlanta'a offense on the sideline. Eat up the clock. Strike when we can, score, no turnovers.
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Post subject: Re: Atlanta against mobile QB's Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:40 am |
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Dirty Bird wrote: What you failed to mention is that Atlanta struggles against big, PHYSICAL, mobile QB's such as Cam Newton. Atlanta can handle the smaller QB's. We held Robert Griffin and Mike Vick in check. Griffin only rushing for 7 and Vick for 42. I don't expect Wilson to be a problem. Go watch the 72 yard run by Newton...they didn't put a hand on him..As I mentioned in my earlier post. It has nothing to do with size or physicality..it has to do with the system. I will write this post again as it seems everyone ignored it but it is the truth of the matter..no reason to debate: Quote: First of all you need to delineate mobile QBs vs Read Option QBs.
He faced 3 mobile QBs all season- Vick, RGIII, an Newton.
-Vick is not a read option QB so we can cancel him out. -RGIII is a read option QB, but they only ran it one time before he was concussed. -Newton is a read option QB, and ran the play multiple times over the 2 games period- he averaged 100 ypg and they absolutely obliterated them between D.williams/Stewart, and Newton the read option run. Newton was also able to shred them in the air as a result of it's effectiveness.
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