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 Post subject: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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I am hoping that we are able to cover him well enough to make him ineffective. I like our db's on their wr's. do we have someone that can run with him?


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Kam gets a hat on old man River and something tells me he won't be as effective as normal.


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Kam gets a hat on old man River and something tells me he won't be as effective as normal.


I hope a bone crushing hit goes along with the hat he's giving him :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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I heard an interview with him not long ago and dude wants this bad, he is a pro's pro, he understands this is his last chance and I dont think he gets alligator arms like some others do. We just gotta blanket this guy all night long !

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I am hoping that we are able to cover him well enough to make him ineffective. I like our db's on their wr's. do we have someone that can run with him?


Gonzo rarely gets hit hard. When he does, which I've seen maybe twice, he catches the ball and gets up flipping it to the ref.

There's a reason he's the greatest of all time. He's smart, big and strong. I expect him to have a decent if not good to great game against the Seahawks.


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Vern Davis isn't the legend that Gonzalaz is, but he's younger and Kam Bam gets a bead on him, he will suffer the same results.
Don't think for a second that Gonzalaz isn't going to keep the younger faster Kam in his perifrial. :thfight7:
As far as HIM wanting the win really bad?, who the hell doesn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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The difference is VD has the body of an adonis and the heart of a 3 year old, Tony is a legend I dont see him folding like VD did is all I am saying.

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Gonzalez has been hit harder than anything Kam Spam can bring. There is a reason he has played so long and has the consecutive game reception streak he does.


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Kam is the hardest hitting safety in the NFL right now...if he comes to play like he did against SF at our house Gonzo will get the Vernon Davis treatment. He may get up on his feet with a concussion but he won't be seeing anymore PT the rest of the game.


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Kam is the hardest hitting safety in the NFL right now...if he comes to play like he did against SF at our house Gonzo will get the Vernon Davis treatment. He may get up on his feet with a concussion but he won't be seeing anymore PT the rest of the game.


Yeah, in all of his 16 years in the NFL Kam is the hardest hitter Tony G has ever seen. :sarcasm_off:


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Vern Davis isn't the legend that Gonzalaz is, but he's younger and Kam Bam gets a bead on him, he will suffer the same results.
Don't think for a second that Gonzalaz isn't going to keep the younger faster Kam in his perifrial. :thfight7:
As far as HIM wanting the win really bad?, who the hell doesn't.


i seriously doubt TG is to worried about it...after all the years he as played, he's been hit hard one or two times im certain


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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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It doesn't matter how many times he's been hit in the past. If anything that means that Kam's hits are more likely to hurt worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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The difference is VD has the body of an adonis and the heart of a 3 year old, Tony is a legend I dont see him folding like VD did is all I am saying.


so Atlanta is just going to tee off on Tony?

I don't think so, its going to be a battle all the way around, your 11 have to play better than our 11

Hawks don't just have 3 or 4 good players on both sides of the ball, they have 11 great players on both sides of the ball with video to prove it, nevermind stats or wins

just go back and watch how this team is progressively getting better and better each and every game, even though last weeks game appeared lack luster and the Hawks didn't play at thier best they still improved in several ways..

1. they held washington to just 74 yrds total offense in the final 3 quarters.

2. they missed multiple opportunities to score and still won by 2 possessions where as in the past that many missed opportunities spelled a loss!

3. had their biggest come back of the season.

and they are still getting better...

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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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If Kam is assigned to Gonzo his is gonna need to play the game of his life.

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If bambam puts a hit like VD on Gonzales he is gonna fold. Thanku Come again.

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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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keepertd wrote:
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Vern Davis isn't the legend that Gonzalaz is, but he's younger and Kam Bam gets a bead on him, he will suffer the same results.
Don't think for a second that Gonzalaz isn't going to keep the younger faster Kam in his perifrial. :thfight7:
As far as HIM wanting the win really bad?, who the hell doesn't.


i seriously doubt TG is to worried about it...after all the years he as played, he's been hit hard one or two times im certain


I've been in one or two car wrecks in my life. Even though I made it out okay, it does not mean that I am any less concerned about getting into another one. Granted, car wrecks and de-cleaters are two different scenarios, but to say the TG isn't too worried about getting blasted by Bam Bam is just ludicrous.

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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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keepertd wrote:
scutterhawk wrote:
Vern Davis isn't the legend that Gonzalaz is, but he's younger and Kam Bam gets a bead on him, he will suffer the same results.
Don't think for a second that Gonzalaz isn't going to keep the younger faster Kam in his perifrial. :thfight7:
As far as HIM wanting the win really bad?, who the hell doesn't.


i seriously doubt TG is to worried about it...after all the years he as played, he's been hit hard one or two times im certain


I'm certain Gonzo has been hit plenty hard in his career, but as great and as durable as he's been he is also 37 years old. Tony has a lot of miles on him now and the body just doesn't respond the same way it does when you're in your 20's. Kam is 230lbs and hits like a truck. If he gets a bead on Gonzo and lowers the boom, Gonzo's game will be effected for the rest of of the day.

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 Post subject: Re: Neutralizing Tony Gonzalez
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Mistashoesta wrote:
keepertd wrote:
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Vern Davis isn't the legend that Gonzalaz is, but he's younger and Kam Bam gets a bead on him, he will suffer the same results.
Don't think for a second that Gonzalaz isn't going to keep the younger faster Kam in his perifrial. :thfight7:
As far as HIM wanting the win really bad?, who the hell doesn't.


i seriously doubt TG is to worried about it...after all the years he as played, he's been hit hard one or two times im certain


I've been in one or two car wrecks in my life. Even though I made it out okay, it does not mean that I am any less concerned about getting into another one. Granted, car wrecks and de-cleaters are two different scenarios, but to say the TG isn't too worried about getting blasted Bam Bam is just ludicrous.


it isnt that ludicrous, when getting hit is part of the job i seriously doubt in his head he's going "o no im gonna get hit hard in the nfl....maybe i shouldnt catch that pass or play good" unless of course its a h2h which almost anyone is afraid of or injury...no hit that doesnt result in a major injury is going to phase TG, sorry to dissapoint you


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TG is one of the two this weekend that bother me. The other is Rodgers. We have had our issues with giving up the ball to a TE or RB who sits down in the middle. We have to make sure they know that if they come in there - they're going to get hit hard.

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it isnt that ludicrous, when getting hit is part of the job i seriously doubt in his head he's going "o no im gonna get hit hard in the nfl....maybe i shouldnt catch that pass or play good" unless of course its a h2h which almost anyone is afraid of or injury...no hit that doesnt result in a major injury is going to phase TG, sorry to dissapoint you


Being worried and being afraid are two different things. Nobody said TG was scared, but I'm Pretty Damn sure when he's running his routes across the middle he has the location of our strong safety in the back of his head (i.e - worried). No receiver in this league runs around with reckless abandon, especially if the opposition has a stud or two patrolling the field known to bring the wood. Nice try though.

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it isnt that ludicrous, when getting hit is part of the job i seriously doubt in his head he's going "o no im gonna get hit hard in the nfl....maybe i shouldnt catch that pass or play good" unless of course its a h2h which almost anyone is afraid of or injury...no hit that doesnt result in a major injury is going to phase TG, sorry to dissapoint you


Being worried and being afraid are two different things. Nobody said TG was scared, but I'm Pretty Damn sure when he's running his routes across the middle he has the location of our strong safety in the back of his head (i.e - worried). No receiver in this league runs around with reckless abandon, especially if the opposition has a stud or two patrolling the field known to bring the wood. Nice try though.


so my whole point was even if he gets hit hard its not going to change his gameplay, (unless of course an injury) and you compare that to being reckless? please, nice try though


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keepertd wrote:
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it isnt that ludicrous, when getting hit is part of the job i seriously doubt in his head he's going "o no im gonna get hit hard in the nfl....maybe i shouldnt catch that pass or play good" unless of course its a h2h which almost anyone is afraid of or injury...no hit that doesnt result in a major injury is going to phase TG, sorry to dissapoint you


Being worried and being afraid are two different things. Nobody said TG was scared, but I'm Pretty Damn sure when he's running his routes across the middle he has the location of our strong safety in the back of his head (i.e - worried). No receiver in this league runs around with reckless abandon, especially if the opposition has a stud or two patrolling the field known to bring the wood. Nice try though.


so my whole point was even if he gets hit hard its not going to change his gameplay, (unless of course an injury) and you compare that to being reckless? please, nice try though


*facepalm* You can't be serious? Once again, nobody said TG is scared OR reckless. He surely didn't become the best at his position by being either. The style of play your are attempting to describe would suggest that one would have to be of a reckless state of mind to think that they could just run around the field and catch passes, not worried about the defender eyeing him as he does so. He is not super Mario with a golden star or Jean Claude Van Dame who runs through walls.

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Neuter-ize him.... I agree.

Find someone with bovine experience. We'll use them.

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Why is everyone so obsessed with Gonzalez? The dude is like 50 years old and averaged 10 yards a catch...his longest catch was 25 yards.

Yeah he's a HOFer, but he's definitely not what he was. If you watch ATL, the only reason he gets targeted so much is not because he's still "amazing" but because teams focus so much on Roddy and Julio he flies under the radar. This team is built to stop multiple weapons. He's not the same guy he was 5 years ago.

Zach Miller averaged more yards per catch than Gonzalez. Do you think they are freaking out about him in ATL?

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Kam is the hardest hitting safety in the NFL right now...if he comes to play like he did against SF at our house Gonzo will get the Vernon Davis treatment. He may get up on his feet with a concussion but he won't be seeing anymore PT the rest of the game.


Yeah, in all of his 16 years in the NFL Kam is the hardest hitter Tony G has ever seen. :sarcasm_off:


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Why is everyone so obsessed with Gonzalez? The dude is like 50 years old and averaged 10 yards a catch...his longest catch was 25 yards.

Yeah he's a HOFer, but he's definitely not what he was. If you watch ATL, the only reason he gets targeted so much is not because he's still "amazing" but because teams focus so much on Roddy and Julio he flies under the radar. This team is built to stop multiple weapons. He's not the same guy he was 5 years ago.

Zach Miller averaged more yards per catch than Gonzalez. Do you think they are freaking out about him in ATL?


If you watch a game, you will notice, he rarely drops the ball, and slips into space very easily.

10-25 yards 4-8 times = a TD. He doesn't need it all at once.


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Ok, Hawks fans here, but this is really some crazy talk. When was the last time anybody remembers Tony getting 'nuetralized?' He's money game after game after ever-lovin game, and this is consistent regardless coverage or how hard he gets hit. Why would anybody think his performance would suddenly degrade against Chancellor?

The best thing you can do against Gonzalez is limit the damage he does. He will produce regardless.


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