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Re: Pick your Poison
Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:16 pm
  • Funny thing about that passing game we apparently dont have; our quarterback somehow managed to throw 26 touchdown passes. That's how we roll... run first, run to win, but throw to score. Our offense has proven to be extremely well rounded this year (starting in the second half of the season really). Atlanta seems really one dimensional on offense, and that one dimension unfortunately (for you) plays right to our biggest strength.

    Dont be such a stat monkey worrying about haw many 1,000 yard receivers we don't have. This isnt fantasy and this just is NOT the same team that existed prior to week 12.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:58 pm
  • wanna know where i get my ticket information from? STUBHUB.COM alone has 9,184 tickets available for the game as of 11 pm PST
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Re: Pick your Poison
Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:12 pm
  • So much manliness being tossed around here !!!

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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:35 am
  • CANHawk wrote:Funny thing about that passing game we apparently dont have; our quarterback somehow managed to throw 26 touchdown passes. That's how we roll... run first, run to win, but throw to score. Our offense has proven to be extremely well rounded this year (starting in the second half of the season really). Atlanta seems really one dimensional on offense, and that one dimension unfortunately (for you) plays right to our biggest strength.

    Dont be such a stat monkey worrying about haw many 1,000 yard receivers we don't have. This isnt fantasy and this just is NOT the same team that existed prior to week 12.


    which leads to one of my original posts...stop the run and the Falcons have a major boost to the chances...im not saying your passing game isnt worth a damn or anything, but for a team all year that has primarily depended on the run first pass in the end...is definatly a huge boost....same can be said about the Falcons, the one and only hope of us having a run game is that Seattle knows the passing game and preps for it so much that the running game makes its first appearance all year...that and the screens we use 99999 times a game will definatly be huge
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:12 am
  • CANHawk wrote:Funny thing about that passing game we apparently dont have; our quarterback somehow managed to throw 26 touchdown passes. That's how we roll... run first, run to win, but throw to score. Our offense has proven to be extremely well rounded this year (starting in the second half of the season really). Atlanta seems really one dimensional on offense, and that one dimension unfortunately (for you) plays right to our biggest strength.

    Dont be such a stat monkey worrying about haw many 1,000 yard receivers we don't have. This isnt fantasy and this just is NOT the same team that existed prior to week 12.

    you been very nice to me. and genararlly I have agreed with what you have said.

    I just don't see a passing game though. but since you brought up 26 TD's. then what I wonder is if you have a more so red zone threat, then what I realized.

    and we our one dimension a lot. but is it that much of difference then y'all? y'all have a RB with over 1000 yards, but y'alls WR in total yards is not even 3000.
    - we have a RB who does not get the yardage. but we kill it in throwing game.
    - so if we are one dimensional, then so are y'all.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:30 am
  • keepertd wrote:
    morgulon1 wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:In case you didn't notice we have won all 3 of our recent road games. Also, we were down 14-0 in the middle of the first quarter on the road on a field called a pasture by everyone that has seen it/played on it. We scored 24 unanswered points to win the game

    We played in a dome for over 20 years, the fast track suits our defense to a tee. We have probably the best secondary in football. You beat us last year when most were rookies. They now play as a team.

    We have a dynamic quarterback that will tire out your defense with both his arm and his legs. He doesn't make many mistakes and knows how to win games. In fact, he won the first playoff game he appeared in.

    We also have a bruising RB that is also quick ....he is......A BEAST.

    I like our chances quite frankly.




    Yeah but, yeah but,...Hey we gave up a million draft picks for julio jones. We have "Matty Ice" (stupid name btw)
    Yeah but, yeah we had the wrong coordinators, thats why we got dominated the last three years in the post season.

    Russell Wilson has won more play off games than Matty Ice.


    you have also been terrible on the road (sucks when your teams history is brought in against you huh?)


    History gets re-written every day and we are writing our new book now. (See 3 road wins in a row, and one a playoff win, which is something you know nothing about)....that sucks huh?..Your team will be added to the list of losers we roll on the way to winning our first title.

    That sucks huh?
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:43 am
  • And yet it continues.

    I think all of these threads should get shacked.

    "I am just here to have a sensible football conversation" Which is only sensible if others agree while not giving any credit to the statements that are presented as argument.
    Please.. shack it, so I can have fun too. Can is acting over-responsible and that is just fine, but our strengths lie in the mundane, pathetic and out of sarcasm.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:51 am
  • Seems some of our own posters are having a hard time having normal discussions.

    This poster is telling his side as he sees it. We of course see it differently but some are having problems saying that with out it coming out as (YOU SUCK?)

    To many of our posters now a days are more interested in confrontation than discussion and frankly I'm sick of it!

    If you can't debate your own team without being a jerk, then perhaps you're on the wrong board!!

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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:14 am
  • Fibonacci wrote:
    CANHawk wrote:Funny thing about that passing game we apparently dont have; our quarterback somehow managed to throw 26 touchdown passes. That's how we roll... run first, run to win, but throw to score. Our offense has proven to be extremely well rounded this year (starting in the second half of the season really). Atlanta seems really one dimensional on offense, and that one dimension unfortunately (for you) plays right to our biggest strength.

    Dont be such a stat monkey worrying about haw many 1,000 yard receivers we don't have. This isnt fantasy and this just is NOT the same team that existed prior to week 12.

    you been very nice to me. and genararlly I have agreed with what you have said.

    I just don't see a passing game though. but since you brought up 26 TD's. then what I wonder is if you have a more so red zone threat, then what I realized.

    and we our one dimension a lot. but is it that much of difference then y'all? y'all have a RB with over 1000 yards, but y'alls WR in total yards is not even 3000.
    - we have a RB who does not get the yardage. but we kill it in throwing game.
    - so if we are one dimensional, then so are y'all.

    Lol. Dude, we're 9th overall in the league in rushing TD's with 16 and 8th overall in passing TD's with 27. And our rookie qb had training wheels on for the first half of the season. How the blue hell is that one dimensional?

    I like you too. We should totally hug later and maybe go for frozen yogurt or something, but you've got your head way up your ass with these stats. You roll out stats to try and prove whatever point of view you have, but when the same stats are used to contradict you the game is suddenly all about being played between the hashes.

    Sup with that?

    As for "red zone threats", we have several. Zack Miller has a huge catch radius and will catch anything around him. Uses his big body to box out defenders. Golden Tate is a YAC monster and will getvin the endzone is you get him the ball inside the 10. Fullback Mike Robinson has been leaking into the flats and getting lots ot TDs lately. Sidney Rice shluld be considered on the cusp of being elite after some of the circus catches he's made. Doug Baldwin isamazing at getting both feet down inside. Hell, even Anthony McCoy hasn't been dropping as many balls lately. And of course you ALWAYS have to be wary of BeastMode (but worry about him too much and Russell will keep it on the read option). We have LOTS of dudes who can put up 6 inside the 20.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:23 am
  • Its less about total yard and more about efficiency. We are very efficient at passing, Wilson has a higher QB rating and HIGHER yards per attempt than Matt Ryan. Both have a very good completion %

    When it comes it rushing, the Seahawks are extremely efficient. Statistically, the Falcons are not.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:33 am
  • Ok this is my last post.

    1. I feel we have beaten this thought enough. Y'all seen what I said, and I seen what y'all said.

    2. great fans y'all are. if any of y'all are coming to Georgia this sunday, you can strop by and tailgate with me and my friends. you can see I am civil and I am not going to be a jerk.
    - just send me a message or bump this thread. I will continue to read, just not post.

    3. One person on here did get upset, I am really not about upsetting anyone. we both have feathers and I do not want to ruffle any on either side.

    4. what I have learned
    - you have a great RB (I do not need to write 20 pages on how awesome he is)
    - you have a red zone game in passing....something I did not have a clue at.
    - you stand by your DB's. and they have played a good duo for NE.
    - and lastly between the hashes.

    5. you did let me knwo; without you saying it, that I was a little high on my team and that you did have a good team. therefore you brought me back to earth
    - and for that I thank you.

    6. If I kept on yapping. then I see this going round and round...and no more of a point will be made, then what has been already stated. Or worse, it would turn to more then one person getting upset. or even worse me getting upset. :P anyhow I am really not about upsetting anyone, especially coming to another teams message boards, only trolls do that.

    anyhow I do thank you a lot more then what you might realize. and I look forward to the game on Sunday.
    and I will return if the Falcons lose to congratulate you all. I did the exact same thing the year the packers ripped into us with over 40 points.

    Asante' (Thank you)
    Namaste' (a respectful good-bye)
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:53 am
  • Fibonacci,

    Here is my last thoughts (not to have the last word though). You have a very good team and you get us at home which is absolutely HUGE in the playoffs. My only point is our strengths lean towards playoff football in January, we run the ball and have a fairly stout defense. Which leads me
    to say this should be an interesting showdown. If youre team wins come on back or PM me and I will personally congratulate you. I don't hate the Falcons and if you beat us will be rooting for them to go all the way as I feel about the niners the way you feel about the Saints.


    PS on a unrelated note: I wish you guys would ditch those uniforms and go with your throwbacks fulltime because theyre sharp as hell. We here at
    Seahawks.net have had a couple of discussions about uniforms.

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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:04 am
  • Fibonacci wrote:
    CANHawk wrote:Funny thing about that passing game we apparently dont have; our quarterback somehow managed to throw 26 touchdown passes. That's how we roll... run first, run to win, but throw to score. Our offense has proven to be extremely well rounded this year (starting in the second half of the season really). Atlanta seems really one dimensional on offense, and that one dimension unfortunately (for you) plays right to our biggest strength.

    Dont be such a stat monkey worrying about haw many 1,000 yard receivers we don't have. This isnt fantasy and this just is NOT the same team that existed prior to week 12.

    you been very nice to me. and genararlly I have agreed with what you have said.

    I just don't see a passing game though. but since you brought up 26 TD's. then what I wonder is if you have a more so red zone threat, then what I realized.

    and we our one dimension a lot. but is it that much of difference then y'all? y'all have a RB with over 1000 yards, but y'alls WR in total yards is not even 3000.
    - we have a RB who does not get the yardage. but we kill it in throwing game.
    - so if we are one dimensional, then so are y'all.

    I read your thread on the other site. I have a pretty good bead on your reasoning. And here is where you are wrong. You are looking at stats trying to figure out what your team does better, somehow thinking that is the key to winning.

    That does not mean shit. I have said it before here, stats are the excrement of a game. The remains. If you have not watched at least 5 games from the team you are playing, you can't draw a bead on the matchups. Stats are forensic science, matchups are where you predict. You are looking at the stats to convince yourself what will happen, and that is just about impossible.

    The way Pete operates is to use his defense to make your team play left handed. And the way he has our offense set up is to be ambidextrous. Not many teams are built to stop a power run game, an option misdirect game, and an over the top big gain game, things we have on offense. Our defensive philosophy does not always work. Against the Lions we took away Megatron and Stafford threw underneath. But against the Packers we took away the mid range and deep ball and the fearsome Rodgers was able to muster only 12 points. Against Cam we took away the deep ball and the option run and he mustered 3 points. Forget the stats, we won the right matchups. We made Tom Freaking Brady play left handed so to speak, and he scraped together 23 points. Cutler, 17 points. Romo, 7 points. Kaepernick, 2 field goals and a garbage time touchdown against the backups. All different styles with one thing in common, we made them play left handed.

    We are not going to stop Matt Ryan like we did Christian Ponder or some of the other league schlubs. We are going to match up and try to make him choose that 2nd, 3rd, and 4th option. Hopefully under some pressure. If the Falcons can execute left handed, props to them. If they can do a little sleight of hand, props to them. And if the Falcons don't establish the run, that makes it even easier make them play left handed.

    You probably know more about your team than I do, because I have only watched about 10 of your games this year. But I think I have a pretty good grasp of what you do, and I never looked up one stat until I was done watching the coaches view. Can you say the same? Or are you informed about your team from watching them, but ill informed about ours because you have painted your picture with some numbers?
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:26 pm
  • Stats are like handicapping a horse race. You view the past performances in the racing form, and try to get an idea of all the intangibles. But when the gate opens....your jockey could fall off....your horses saddle could slip....another horse simply felt better that day and upset your horse.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:32 pm
  • Scottemojo wrote:
    Fibonacci wrote:
    CANHawk wrote:Funny thing about that passing game we apparently dont have; our quarterback somehow managed to throw 26 touchdown passes. That's how we roll... run first, run to win, but throw to score. Our offense has proven to be extremely well rounded this year (starting in the second half of the season really). Atlanta seems really one dimensional on offense, and that one dimension unfortunately (for you) plays right to our biggest strength.

    Dont be such a stat monkey worrying about haw many 1,000 yard receivers we don't have. This isnt fantasy and this just is NOT the same team that existed prior to week 12.

    you been very nice to me. and genararlly I have agreed with what you have said.

    I just don't see a passing game though. but since you brought up 26 TD's. then what I wonder is if you have a more so red zone threat, then what I realized.

    and we our one dimension a lot. but is it that much of difference then y'all? y'all have a RB with over 1000 yards, but y'alls WR in total yards is not even 3000.
    - we have a RB who does not get the yardage. but we kill it in throwing game.
    - so if we are one dimensional, then so are y'all.

    I read your thread on the other site. I have a pretty good bead on your reasoning. And here is where you are wrong. You are looking at stats trying to figure out what your team does better, somehow thinking that is the key to winning.

    That does not mean shit. I have said it before here, stats are the excrement of a game. The remains. If you have not watched at least 5 games from the team you are playing, you can't draw a bead on the matchups. Stats are forensic science, matchups are where you predict. You are looking at the stats to convince yourself what will happen, and that is just about impossible.

    The way Pete operates is to use his defense to make your team play left handed. And the way he has our offense set up is to be ambidextrous. Not many teams are built to stop a power run game, an option misdirect game, and an over the top big gain game, things we have on offense. Our defensive philosophy does not always work. Against the Lions we took away Megatron and Stafford threw underneath. But against the Packers we took away the mid range and deep ball and the fearsome Rodgers was able to muster only 12 points. Against Cam we took away the deep ball and the option run and he mustered 3 points. Forget the stats, we won the right matchups. We made Tom Freaking Brady play left handed so to speak, and he scraped together 23 points. Cutler, 17 points. Romo, 7 points. Kaepernick, 2 field goals and a garbage time touchdown against the backups. All different styles with one thing in common, we made them play left handed.

    We are not going to stop Matt Ryan like we did Christian Ponder or some of the other league schlubs. We are going to match up and try to make him choose that 2nd, 3rd, and 4th option. Hopefully under some pressure. If the Falcons can execute left handed, props to them. If they can do a little sleight of hand, props to them. And if the Falcons don't establish the run, that makes it even easier make them play left handed.

    You probably know more about your team than I do, because I have only watched about 10 of your games this year. But I think I have a pretty good grasp of what you do, and I never looked up one stat until I was done watching the coaches view. Can you say the same? Or are you informed about your team from watching them, but ill informed about ours because you have painted your picture with some numbers?


    Great post, Scott.
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Re: Pick your Poison
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:46 pm
  • ensett wrote:Its less about total yard and more about efficiency. We are very efficient at passing, Wilson has a higher QB rating and HIGHER yards per attempt than Matt Ryan. Both have a very good completion %

    When it comes it rushing, the Seahawks are extremely efficient. Statistically, the Falcons are not.


    the thing about the Falcons is they love the screen, they dont always go for major yardage, in fact id say most throws go for short yardage and then when they have the chance they go for the home run, hence why TG has almost 1000 yards receiving
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