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  • This game is really bothering me. My gut said this game was easier than the Washington game. But guts are dumb, math is better.

    It’s easy to see; the Falcons beat you by passing the ball... a lot. For the 2012 season they are ranked 26th (378) in rushing attempts as opposed to 8th (615) in passing attempts. And when they do run the ball its bad, ranked 29th they are averaging 3.7 yards per carry and 87 yards per game (which is an inflated number, from runs happening after 10+ point leads… clock management runs).

    So how the heck does an arguably one dimensional offense put up a 13-3 record. Well of course by having a very talented triple threat called Roddy White, Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez.

    Interesting Receiving Facts
    1) WR1: Roddy White is technically the WR1 with 124 targets. But as shown below the equal distribution between all three is relatively close.
    2) WR2: The “WR2” position is technically split between Jones and Gonzalez, with 129/124 targets respectively. The point being, Gonzales is targeted more like a receiver then a TE.
    3) Slot: Same with your slot receiver Harry Morgan, who has split targets with RB Jaquizz Rogers this year 59/59 respectively.
    4) LONG: White and Jones are both deep threats with 17/18 20+ yard catches on the season.
    5) YAC: Among Receivers (Not RB’s) with 50 or more catches Jones is ranked 11nd and White is ranked 20th in Yards after the Catch. Only Dallas and Cinci have receiver pairs in the top 20 in YAC.
    6) TD: White/Roddy/Gonz has near equal TD distribution.

    SEA DEF v. Passing. (FO.com)
    v. WR#1 - Rank 1 | White
    v. WR#2 - Rank 10 | Jones
    v. SLR - Rank 10 | Harry Douglas
    v. TE - Rank 17 | Gonzales
    v. RB – Rank 9 | Jaqquiz Rogers (Turner isn’t worth putting here for passing)

    Keys to the game:

    1) Seattle has to win the first half of the game: Atlanta has won every game in which it was leading in the first half. Atlanta has lost every game in which it was not leading in the first half. (We may not want to defer the kickoff this game)
    2) Atlanta always finishes strong: Atlanta has outscored every opponent in the second half this year, except twice against Detroit (both wins).
    3) You’re dealing with 3 legit primary receivers when playing the Falcon’s.
    4) Pass Rush or CB’s: Since we probably aren’t going to out pass Matt Ryan, and even if we slow the game down by rushing Lynch, what is the answer to 3 Quality Targets, and 2 Mid Targets(Rogers/Douglas). I don’t think we have an answer unless we are running some type of Bandit/Nickle D all 4 downs? Because our pass rush against good O-Lines has only been good in spurts and never sustained.

    Is Browner an answer to Julio Jones (does he have the speed to keep up with Jones on fly’s)? Is our LB core the answer to Gonzales? What about Jauqizz and Douglas?

    Somebody help me here, I’m worried
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  • Kam will probably be on Gonzalez is my guess, He's pretty decent on coverage, and if he hits him like he did Davis, then Tony retires early.

    As for the 2 other boys, White and Jones, I think with Thomas in the back, and if sherm and browner can disrupt their timing, we should be ok.

    We HAVE to get a pass rush HAVE to rattle Matt Ryan.
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  • Tony Gonzales is an animal, and I've always told my friends watching games...if ATL gets down watch Gonzales catch everything and bring them back into the game with a couple touchdowns.


    He's all time amazing, and can turn it on when his team needs him.


    Roddy White and Julio Jones are capable of not showing up during games (not often...but...it does happen). I think BB on White and Sherm on Jones will be great matchups and help take away what each player excels at.


    Linebackers will need to STEP UP to contain Gonzales though, they have the speed to smother him...but he's a Pro's pro and runs exceptional routes and catch pretty much everything.


    HOWEVER, I've seen this Seattle Defense run with the best air attacks (NE & GB), so I'm not extremely concerned. Just excited to watch some AWESOME match ups. ATL in the playoffs is nothing to be overly worried about. This is the NFL though, so they're not to be taken lightly by all means! They don't seem to be nearly as physical as Seattle, which IMO will be their downfall. Because, lets face it...Seattle is a solid combination of Physical/Finesse.
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  • Ok, so Kam is the third level man option on Gonzales, Thomas is the double team for Jones(at least he favors the Jones routes), and Sherm is on his own with White. I can live with that.

    Pass rush, I don't know. I have a feeling Ryan is just going to be sitting back hammering us over the middle with little to no pressure. Especially in the 3rd/4th quarter.

    I also think we give up at least tow 20+ flies down the edge. (Most likely to Browners side).
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  • This will be the game that tells us if our Defensive Coordinator has the balls to throw an "all out" blitz at Ryan.
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  • SouthSoundHawk wrote:HOWEVER, I've seen this Seattle Defense run with the best air attacks (NE & GB), so I'm not extremely concerned. Just excited to watch some AWESOME match ups. ATL in the playoffs is nothing to be overly worried about. This is the NFL though, so they're not to be taken lightly by all means! They don't seem to be nearly as physical as Seattle, which IMO will be their downfall. Because, lets face it...Seattle is a solid combination of Physical/Finesse.


    We barely won both those games AT HOME. Just saying.
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  • I think we're going to have to score at least 28 to win this one.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:I think we're going to have to score at least 28 to win this one.


    That's what keeps creeping up in my mind. You have to outscore them. Something Drew Brees had a hard time doing in one game, and couldn't do in another. Or somehow limit damage in the first have and clock manage with Lynch.

    That's something to think about, we are good at limiting damage in the Red Zone. And they run a lot of turner (10 TD's) in the Red zone. That is a matchup that doesn't scare me.
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  • Shock2k wrote:We barely won both those games AT HOME. Just saying.



    Very true, but the Offense hadn't shifted gears yet either.


    I was simply listing two teams that have potent passing attacks that the 'hawks kept in check and gave the offense a chance to win. :D
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  • Look it up, Falcons loses have come when opponents rush heavy. Saints win came when they rushed more than they typically do. Tampa had success in their victory as well, and Carolina is our best hope with the read option under Cam. They had a few other games which were close and they won by last minute field goals, but opponents need to rush, and limit their offensive possessions. This plays right into our strengths.

    I feel better about this game despite their firepower. I know they have good DBs as well, but I believe our balance will be hard to counter. We won't stop them completely, we just need to produce more defensive stops and I think we can win that battle.
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  • Shock2k wrote:3) Slot: Same with your slot receiver Harry Morgan,


    You've been watching too much Dexter, my brother! :D. I totally agree, though. I'm worried about having to cover White, Julio, Gonzales AND Jaquizz out of the backfield on EVERY pass attempt. They don't run a lot of screens, but they really should in this game. We'll have to get to Matty Ice in the first 3-4 seconds or else we give their talented WR corp time to get open. It is going to be an awesome matchup, but I have faith in our DBs to cover them. We should have enough pressure that Ryan throws some balls up, and we saw what happened last week. If we establish the run and are technical/disciplined on defense, we should win!
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  • Dude your not giving our Hawks enough credit, our defense is awesome ...plus we haven't seen how Bruce will handle his new every down job..I feel he will shine. I would put Browner on Jones and Sherm on White. I think Browners physical style of play could take Jones out of his game, I don't care what anyone says he's never played a more physical corner than BB. Roddy White is a Vet who I feel won't get easily rattled by BB's physical play so I want our All Pro corner Sherm (yes I'm calling it) on him. I see Sherm getting an Int this game. Oh and lets not forget our Pro Bowl ball hawking saftey ET there to help over the top. As far as Gonzales goes Kam and our LB's are gonna need to step up ...Gonzales is a future Hall of Famer but he is getting old and with our speed and physical play I think we can neutralize him. All this is predicated on their offense getting on the field. Dont forget we got a great Offense too that has a nack for long punishing drives with our Pro Bowl RB by the name of Lynch. Be confident in our team.
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  • Heard the same thing about Green Bay and New England. That turned out okay.
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  • HansGruber wrote:Heard the same thing about Green Bay and New England. That turned out okay......


    .....in the 12th Man's house.

    I pray that we can get off to a faster start than we did in DC.....can't be spotting them 14 points in the 1st quarter. The coaching staff must have an effective plan to stop them.....count on it! Remember...no more than 15 points!!! We hold that this Sunday and SF/GB will be quaking!
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  • Kam cannot cover Gonzalez. KJ Wright got burned by Gonzalez last year as well as Chancellor. Trufant is going to have problems with the slot. Browner had issues covering Jones last year. The Falcons will make plays against the secondary. I am thinking a Detroit Lions type game. I think JSea is correct, the Seahawks are going to have to score 28+ points.

    They are going to have to blitz to create pressure on Ryan, opening themselves up to big plays. The defense will do the best it can but Wilson and the offense are going to have to win this one.

    Or maybe the coaches decide to go with Lane/Maxwell as the nickle and Bruce/Scruggs step up their game? Without Jones/Clemons, our DL rotation is getting screwed up. Our young LBs could play out of their minds and tighten up the middle? They could go to the Bandit if they think the Falcons are going pass heavy? Gets Jeron Johnson on the field. Maybe Guy as well.
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  • drdiags wrote:Kam cannot cover Gonzalez. KJ Wright got burned by Gonzalez last year as well as Chancellor. Trufant is going to have problems with the slot. Browner had issues covering Jones last year. The Falcons will make plays against the secondary. I am thinking a Detroit Lions type game. I think JSea is correct, the Seahawks are going to have to score 28+ points.

    They are going to have to blitz to create pressure on Ryan, opening themselves up to big plays. The defense will do the best it can but Wilson and the offense are going to have to win this one.

    Or maybe the coaches decide to go with Lane/Maxwell as the nickle and Bruce/Scruggs step up their game. Without Jones/Clemons, our DL rotation is getting screwed up. Our young LBs could play out of their minds and tighten up the middle. They could go to the Bandit if they think the Falcons are going pass heavy? Gets Jeron Johnson on the field. Maybe Guy as well.


    Ok so I'm not crazy. Would it be to much of a stretch to go full bandit / nickel and force them to run. Problem is I think Ryan would still make plays. May come down to us getting an interception.

    I was on the Falcon's boards, and there was a post that said "Falcons are going to have to score 28 points to win." It's funny you are syaing the same thing.
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  • If our big boys could stand the reps, keeping the likes of Branch, Bryant and Mebane with Irvin/Scruggs as the 4th DL could give you run support from the Bandit. Drop Kam down low to play the LB role along with Guy. You lose Hill and probably Wagner, opting to keep Wright maybe?

    Browner(CB), Sherman(CB), Trufant(Nickle), Kam(LB-like), Thomas(S), Johnson (S) and Wright/Guy(LB/LB-Like).

    I think Atlanta would run us out of this, since I only remember this working against the '10 Bears who had/have shaky OL protection. I am sure we ran it more than once. I just don't remember it having much success besides Chicago. I am just speculating so take all this with a grain of salt.
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  • Very unpredictable game. Seattle owns the matchup advantage and is a far better team, and the surface favors Seattle too. But it's 10 am and the 2nd east coast game in a row. And without Clemons, things could get interesting. Maybe the pass rush improves. Or maybe it's a disaster.

    Atlanta would have probably been 8-0 at home if not for a meaningless final game. One of those wins was a decisive one over Denver. Basically, it's ALL on Matt Ryan. He has to carry them. But as Matt Stafford showed earlier this year, a terrific performance can be enough to get it done.
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  • kearly wrote:Very unpredictable game. Seattle owns the matchup advantage and is a far better team, and the surface favors Seattle too. But it's 10 am and the 2nd east coast game in a row. And without Clemons, things could get interesting. Maybe the pass rush improves. Or maybe it's a disaster.

    Atlanta would have probably been 8-0 at home if not for a meaningless final game. One of those wins was a decisive one over Denver. Basically, it's ALL on Matt Ryan. He has to carry them. But as Matt Stafford showed earlier this year, a terrific performance can be enough to get it done.


    It's hard to be terrific in the first playoff game of the season. If you play a tough defense it is going to be a long day. I don't think a team built like the Seahawks will be easy to play against and sustain for 4 quarters. I am enjoying every moment of this ride.
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  • This is how I look at it. Matt Ryan has never been able to win big games. He and his team are 0 for 2 in playoff games.

    Wilson has allready won more playoff games than Matt Ryan.
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  • I'm sensing this game is going to go to OT... tied at either 23-23 or 24-24.

    And it'll be a coin flip as to who will prevail in OT.

    I can see it going either way.

    Perhaps a slight lean in the Hawks direction based off how we have been performing in the red zone.
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  • Do whatever the Giants did last season to hold them to 2 points. They had the same weapons.
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  • It's all about maintaining offensive rhythm on our end and disrupting theirs. I know that sounds simplistic, but as has been mentioned, if you come out run heavy, the Falcons are not going to do as well. Physicality is going to be a big key. Wear out their defense and you can sustain 8 minute drives. Then the Atlanta offense comes in cold.

    Furthermore, when you go pass happy, as the Falcons are prone to do, you're going to count on time. Ryan is going to hold onto the ball a couple of times for the long developing play with Julio Jones or Roddy White and Irvin absolutely has to take advantage, as does a Seattle blitzer. If he's pressured, maybe that long pass hangs up in the air long enough for Thomas to get underneath it.

    Ultimately, if you can get the Falcons to start pressing - particularly with the stigma of the choker label - they're going to be more liable to make mistakes. Seattle has to get that thought into their heads in the first quarter.
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  • Benn thinking lately (assuming Sherman matches up with R. White 1 on 1), what about starting Lane outside on J. Jones to match his speed - with Thomas helping - and thus making Browner the Slot CB and have him cover Gonzalez? Tony is great but cant see him being faster than Jones or White so would Browner and his tough physical style match up with Gonzalez pretty good?

    Also screen passes to Jacquizz Rogers out of the backfield scare the daylights outta me.
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  • Every week a bunch of folks say we have to get pressure this game or we're toast. Every week you say we have to blitz, it's our only chance. And every week we don't get pressure and we don't blitz until the end and we hold our opponents to under our nfl leading defensive scoring average. You'd do well to analyze why our defense is so successful without a good pass rush and why we don't blitz.

    If Atlanta is so scary why did they beat a bunch of crappy teams on last second scores? If they're such a juggernaut why the dearth of blow outs?

    We aren't going to get a good pass rush this week. We also aren't going to blitz, so you'd better learn to like the other stuff we do well.

    Everyone thinks we're better than Atlanta because we are. That doesn't mean we'll win because chance happens. A couple more pieces of bad luck last week and we're out. But if we play this game 10 times we win 6.5 of them.
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  • OrFan wrote:This is how I look at it. Matt Ryan has never been able to win big games. He and his team are 0 for 2 in playoff games.

    Wilson has already won more playoff games than Matt Ryan.


    Hawks also didn't play an eventual SB contender/winner the first game :( and who cares about the past? Falcons have shown they can win in prime time this year, and that's all that matters
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  • HansGruber wrote:Heard the same thing about Green Bay and New England. That turned out okay.


    At home. Can the Hawks get that same kind of pressure on the road without Clemons? That's what worries me.

    The only way to beat up tempo offenses like the Pats, Packers and Falcons is to press cover and hope your D-Line and blitzes get home before the QB can find a receiver.

    IMO the #1 matchup is old man Trufant on Douglas in the slot. #2 is can Cam and the outside LB's hang with Gonzales.
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  • Shock2k wrote:
    SouthSoundHawk wrote:HOWEVER, I've seen this Seattle Defense run with the best air attacks (NE & GB), so I'm not extremely concerned. Just excited to watch some AWESOME match ups. ATL in the playoffs is nothing to be overly worried about. This is the NFL though, so they're not to be taken lightly by all means! They don't seem to be nearly as physical as Seattle, which IMO will be their downfall. Because, lets face it...Seattle is a solid combination of Physical/Finesse.


    We barely won both those games AT HOME. Just saying.

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  • Of Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay, I would consider Atlanta the weakest of the group. This is a game we need to win by a couple of touchdowns. Vegas is really good at putting up odds, and it's damming to the Falcons they would only give them a point at home. But that first quarter in DC was a wake up call for me. The Hawks showed a ton of heart finishing out that meat grinder of a game.

    But the national media is telling the truth, like it or not we played a handicapped RGIII. Move past the excuses and I believe we need to have a much better start. Atlanta hasn't lost a game this season while holding the lead in the first half.

    I trust the coaching staff and the team. I trust Russell Wilson is going to give us a great chance to win. But I'm still looking for what's the definative skew in this game. Right now it's dead even if we can put up 24 to 30 points. And this is the weakest team we are going to face over the next three games.
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  • Shock2k wrote:Of Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay, I would consider Atlanta the weakest of the group. This is a game we need to win by a couple of touchdowns. Vegas is really good at putting up odds, and it's damming to the Falcons they would only give them a point at home. But that first quarter in DC was a wake up call for me. The Hawks showed a ton of heart finishing out that meat grinder of a game.


    Don't pay attention too much to Vegas, that's not necessarily an indicator of who's going to win, it's an indicator of who the money's coming in on.

    Obviously the Hawks are hot, so that's who people are betting on. Which is why the line is moving in the Hawks favor. All Vegas cares about is getting an even amount of money on each team..........then they collect their VIG.
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  • Looked over the play by play for last years game. Now remember, this years Falcons have had turnover at key coaching positions. Koetter is the new OC and Nolan the new DC, so their philosophies may have changed a bit since last year. However, what I saw from last years game that stood out most are two things:

    In the first half, they keyed on Trufant. They rotated their receivers so that Tru would be facing one guy one time, but another the next. The only times they went away from Trufant was when Jones was on Browner. Browner couldnt' contain Jones well.

    In the second half, Carroll made defensive adjustments and the Hawks came storming back from a 27-7 deficit to lose on a last second missed field goal, 28-30. That was with TJack at the helm. Not sure what Carroll did, but Trufant wasn't getting burned anymore.

    The key to the Falcons first half success seemed to be to isolate Jones on Browner and force ET to have to help Trufant. So they keyed on Trufant to good effect and when ET was forced to help out Tru, they would go to Jones, who would have Browner beat. To shut down Jones, they had ET help, but then Trufants man was always open. I'd love to know if anyone on here remembers what Carroll did in that second half that basically shut down Atlanta's game plan.
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  • This game will be a huge challenge for our team, especially the defense. If we come out running a zone and get no pass rush on Ryan with the loss of Clemons, we're going to get picked apart all game. Man coverage will be our best option for this one. I'm assuming that Sherm will be one on one with whoever is on his side of the field, while Browner will probably need help from Earl over the top.

    It would make sense for Chancelor to be on Gonzalaz, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them using KJ Wright to double him a bit also.

    The biggest X factor the the Falcons offense would be Harry Douglas on Trufant, which would be an advantage to the Falcons. Tru has been getting beat badly at Nickelback. Harry Douglas is a very good receiver.

    Also, the Falcons may try to use running back screens to Jacquiz and Turner. Our team hasn't really been tested all that much this season with running back screens it seems. If the Falcons run these against us, it would hurt our defense. Irvin's lack of experience would open up huge spaces for the running back on the screens.

    The Falcons love to run wide receiver screens as well. Our corners are better at covering these, but we haven't faced a team that runs as many of these plays and executes them as efficiently as the Falcons do.

    Discipline will be crucial for all eleven guys on defense. I see a lot of people on here thinking this is a lock for our team for some reason, but it's far from it. The Falcons are the #1 seed for a reason. While they haven't really faced anybody all that great this season outside their beatdown of the Broncos early in the season, they're still an excellent team that will test our team in every way possible. The 10AM kickoff doesn't help, along with the injury to Clemons. The only advantage of this game over last is the better field conditions.
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  • There has been some really great conversation in this thread. I appreciate how "down in the weeds" .Net'rs are willing to go to look at our team.

    But I have to say, I'm regretting starting this tread. I came out way to negative. I made it sound like we couldn't win. I'm going to call it temporary insanity. Our team has a GREAT chance to win here. Atlanta at the end of the day is a one trick pony. Now they are very good at that one trick, but we've played tougher and harder this season.

    The 49er's are a better version of the Falcons and we played them tough at home when we were just getting started. Not to mention how many ways have the Hawks won this year? No doubt this game we are going to win in a way we have not seen. Because our coaching staff is just that good, our team is just that confidant, and our players are "schwaggerriffic".

    Screw doubts, it's totally out of my control anyways. Like I said before, this team has done nothing to deserve my doubt.

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  • The Falcons haven't played a top 5 defense at all this year. The best defense they played was arguably the Cardinals, and that was a 4 point game at Atlanta.

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    Saints: #31 (1 LOSS)
    Cardinals: #17
    Buccs: #23 (1 LOSS)
    Panthers: #18 (LOSS)
    Giants: #12
    Lions: #27
    Seahawks: #4

    (Ranking by Passing Yds/G allowed)
    Redskins: #30
    Raiders: #20
    Eagles: #9
    Cowboys: #19
    Saints: #31 (1 LOSS)
    Cardinals: #5
    Buccs: #32 (1 LOSS)
    Panthers: #13 (LOSS)
    Giants: #28
    Lions: #14
    Seahawks #6

    Lets face it, these teams match perfectly in favor of the Seahawks. If you were to pick any team to defend against Atlanta's passing attack, you would be forced to consider Seattle. I would even argue that Irvin/Scruggs might be a better combo against Atlanta's pass heavy offense than Clemons/part time Irvin. Expect at least two interceptions.

    Atlanta's defense is above average, but we've seen what the Seahawks can do against some of the best defenses of the league. We finally have a dual threat QB, with too many options to defend against. Yes, Atlanta played against RG3 in Week 5 (winning by 7), but we have to keep in mind that the Redskins didn't really shine as a team until week 11. Atlanta traded games with Cam Newton, with the only win by only 2 points. The Seahawks are better than both teams in every category.

    My prediction? A wild stomping of 35 - 14 Seahawks. Irvin comes up with 2 sacks. Sherman grabs an INT.
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  • This thread has been an interesting read. In this situation, against this quarterback, the defensive ends are less important in applying pressure than the interior defensive linemen. If the Seahawks can get pressure up the middle, they can force Ryan to fade back in the pocket and not be able to step into his throws. They don't have to sack him, or even hit him, just make him uncomfortable.

    I'm only worried about us in the slot. I expect to see a lot more cover 3 than cover 1 or cover 2 man.
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  • Shock2k wrote:Of Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay, I would consider Atlanta the weakest of the group. This is a game we need to win by a couple of touchdowns.



    I agree with your first sentence here.

    I could not disagree more with your 2nd sentence. This is a game we need to win, whether it's by 1 point off of a last second FG or it's by 30.

    As long as the Seahawks walk out of Atlanta with a win and a team as healthy as we went in there with, that's the ONLY thing that matters. Let other people worry about what messages get sent, what the pundits say, or what Vegas does. The win is the only thing.
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  • volsunghawk wrote:
    Shock2k wrote:Of Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay, I would consider Atlanta the weakest of the group. This is a game we need to win by a couple of touchdowns.



    I agree with your first sentence here.

    I could not disagree more with your 2nd sentence. This is a game we need to win, whether it's by 1 point off of a last second FG or it's by 30.

    As long as the Seahawks walk out of Atlanta with a win and a team as healthy as we went in there with, that's the ONLY thing that matters. Let other people worry about what messages get sent, what the pundits say, or what Vegas does. The win is the only thing.


    Agree. Though I will say that given the Falcons' ability to strike quickly with Jones, a 2 score lead would not go amiss. It's in Seattle's best interest to score early and often so they can control the tempo the rest of the game.
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:
    volsunghawk wrote:
    Shock2k wrote:Of Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay, I would consider Atlanta the weakest of the group. This is a game we need to win by a couple of touchdowns.



    I agree with your first sentence here.

    I could not disagree more with your 2nd sentence. This is a game we need to win, whether it's by 1 point off of a last second FG or it's by 30.

    As long as the Seahawks walk out of Atlanta with a win and a team as healthy as we went in there with, that's the ONLY thing that matters. Let other people worry about what messages get sent, what the pundits say, or what Vegas does. The win is the only thing.


    Agree. Though I will say that given the Falcons' ability to strike quickly with Jones, a 2 score lead would not go amiss. It's in Seattle's best interest to score early and often so they can control the tempo the rest of the game.


    Yeah, I want to see some of those patented 85-yard, 8-minute drives from the Seahawks while they put up a 2 score lead. But in the end, I don't care how it gets done as long as our season doesn't end this weekend.
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:
    volsunghawk wrote:
    Shock2k wrote:Of Denver, New England, Atlanta and Green Bay, I would consider Atlanta the weakest of the group. This is a game we need to win by a couple of touchdowns.



    I agree with your first sentence here.

    I could not disagree more with your 2nd sentence. This is a game we need to win, whether it's by 1 point off of a last second FG or it's by 30.

    As long as the Seahawks walk out of Atlanta with a win and a team as healthy as we went in there with, that's the ONLY thing that matters. Let other people worry about what messages get sent, what the pundits say, or what Vegas does. The win is the only thing.


    Agree. Though I will say that given the Falcons' ability to strike quickly with Jones, a 2 score lead would not go amiss. It's in Seattle's best interest to score early and often so they can control the tempo the rest of the game.


    Nobody would disagree a win is a win. You may have missed my point. I'm still trying to gauge this teams chances in the SB run. Given how our season developed there are still a lot of questions. And the question that is going to be answered here is, how well do we play against a quality passer on the road in the Playoffs. So if you look at Manning, Brady, Rogers, we are talking about QB's at a higher level than Ryan (not by much he comes in #5).

    So what I'm looking for is how we defend against, to get an idea of our chances moving forward. And if we can outscore the Falcon's by two TD's, I'm comfortable with Winning by 3 (or 7) against Brady/Manning/Rogers.
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  • pinksheets wrote:This thread title threw me off, I had just gotten done typing the same thing into WebMD.

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    Seriously, I do believe ET is going to have to shade to Browner's side because I don't see him having sustained success against Jones or White. Sherm will give up one or two but also make one or two great plays (int.?) cuz he IS Richard Sherman. Gonzalez will get some but it'll come with a price. Slot receiver will also get some though as mentioned earlier, adjustments may help that issue.

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    FlyingGreg wrote:Do whatever the Giants did last season to hold them to 2 points. They had the same weapons.

    The problem with this Greg is that the Giants generate a LOT of pass rush with their front 4 while the Hawks simply do not. IMO that was the main ingredient for their success last year vs. Atl. leaving plenty of coverage available on the back end as well as plenty of pressure to turn Matty Ice into Matty Water.
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  • Shock2k wrote:
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    Agree. Though I will say that given the Falcons' ability to strike quickly with Jones, a 2 score lead would not go amiss. It's in Seattle's best interest to score early and often so they can control the tempo the rest of the game.


    Nobody would disagree a win is a win. You may have missed my point. I'm still trying to gauge this teams chances in the SB run. Given how our season developed there are still a lot of questions. And the question that is going to be answered here is, how well do we play against a quality passer on the road in the Playoffs. So if you look at Manning, Brady, Rogers, we are talking about QB's at a higher level than Ryan (not by much he comes in #5).

    So what I'm looking for is how we defend against, to get an idea of our chances moving forward. And if we can outscore the Falcon's by two TD's, I'm comfortable with Winning by 3 (or 7) against Brady/Manning/Rogers.


    Every game is distinct and different. Winning by 2 TDs against Ryan wouldn't suggest that we can win against Manning or Brady on a neutral field. At this point in the season, the quality of teams is so close that anyone can beat anyone, regardless of how the final score turned out.
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  • I will trust what Sherm said earlier- "We are built for a 12 round heavyweight fight". They will get some but in the end I think our D on the road gets them a little better. Anything can happen but I just don't see us losing this one.
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  • I as a Falcons fan was dissapointed to see we would be taking on the Seahawks. Their athletic secondary scares me and will be quite a matchup against our receivers. While our running game is hopeless. The X factor in this game is Tony G, I think we can get him going.
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  • FalconsNation wrote:I as a Falcons fan was dissapointed to see we would be taking on the Seahawks. Their athletic secondary scares me and will be quite a matchup against our receivers. While our running game is hopeless. The X factor in this game is Tony G, I think we can get him going.


    As you hopefully have seen on this board, a lot of us feel the same way. Seattle has a tendency to lose track of RBs and TEs slipping out of the backfield. At least for awhile.
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  • Remember.. Browner and sherman do NOT switch sides... they only move sherman over when browner is NOT in...
    if they do i have never seen it...
    matter of fact while browner is in... Sherman, and browner will be on there respected sides Prior to the offense even coming out..
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  • [quote="drdiags"]Kam cannot cover Gonzalez. KJ Wright got burned by Gonzalez last year as well as Chancellor.

    Chancellor didn't play in the last game against the falcons, Atari Bigby started in his place, so we can't say whether or not Chancellor can do it.

    Kam didn't look great giving up 2 touchdowns last week, but i think the threat of Morris and RG3 running had him hesitating alot and leaving paulson and royster open in the end zone, he wasn't beat by them physically or anything. I believe the hawks have the personnel to match up with the falcons, i just can't see the value Trufant brings anymore over maxwell or lane.
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  • HawksFan83 wrote:Kam will probably be on Gonzalez is my guess, He's pretty decent on coverage, and if he hits him like he did Davis, then Tony retires early.

    As for the 2 other boys, White and Jones, I think with Thomas in the back, and if sherm and browner can disrupt their timing, we should be ok.

    We HAVE to get a pass rush HAVE to rattle Matt Ryan.

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    Sando agrees, for the most part.

    Yasinskas: I think the Falcons have to come out and be very aggressive with their passing game. It's the strength of their offense. This is a different team than in the past. Michael Turner is at the end of his career and this is not a running team any longer. Roddy White and Julio Jones are big, physical receivers, so I say let's see strength on strength with Seattle's corners. I think White and Jones can get open against anyone, so the Falcons need to take their chances. Plus, this passing game is about more than just Jones and White. They command so much attention that tight end Tony Gonzalez and slot receiver Harry Douglas could be forgotten about. I think Douglas and/or Gonzalez could end up being key players in this game.

    Sando: Seattle has been very good against tight ends for the most part. I'd be surprised if Gonzalez factored in a big way. Seattle has allowed three touchdown passes to tight ends this season, tied for second fewest in the NFL. The Seahawks have allowed 10 scoring passes to wide receivers, the fifth fewest in the league. Sherman had eight picks and three forced fumbles this season, joining Ed Reed, Charles Woodson and Walt Harris as the only players to reach those totals in a season over the past decade. The Seahawks are not as strong at nickel corner, however. And with leading sacker Chris Clemons likely out with a knee injury, life could get tougher for Seattle in the secondary.

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  • Shock2k wrote:This game is really bothering me. My gut said this game was easier than the Washington game. But guts are dumb, math is better.

    It’s easy to see; the Falcons beat you by passing the ball... a lot. For the 2012 season they are ranked 26th (378) in rushing attempts as opposed to 8th (615) in passing attempts. And when they do run the ball its bad, ranked 29th they are averaging 3.7 yards per carry and 87 yards per game (which is an inflated number, from runs happening after 10+ point leads… clock management runs).

    So how the heck does an arguably one dimensional offense put up a 13-3 record. Well of course by having a very talented triple threat called Roddy White, Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez.

    Interesting Receiving Facts
    1) WR1: Roddy White is technically the WR1 with 124 targets. But as shown below the equal distribution between all three is relatively close.
    2) WR2: The “WR2” position is technically split between Jones and Gonzalez, with 129/124 targets respectively. The point being, Gonzales is targeted more like a receiver then a TE.
    3) Slot: Same with your slot receiver Harry Morgan, who has split targets with RB Jaquizz Rogers this year 59/59 respectively.
    4) LONG: White and Jones are both deep threats with 17/18 20+ yard catches on the season.
    5) YAC: Among Receivers (Not RB’s) with 50 or more catches Jones is ranked 11nd and White is ranked 20th in Yards after the Catch. Only Dallas and Cinci have receiver pairs in the top 20 in YAC.
    6) TD: White/Roddy/Gonz has near equal TD distribution.

    SEA DEF v. Passing. (FO.com)
    v. WR#1 - Rank 1 | White
    v. WR#2 - Rank 10 | Jones
    v. SLR - Rank 10 | Harry Douglas
    v. TE - Rank 17 | Gonzales
    v. RB – Rank 9 | Jaqquiz Rogers (Turner isn’t worth putting here for passing)

    Keys to the game:

    1) Seattle has to win the first half of the game: Atlanta has won every game in which it was leading in the first half. Atlanta has lost every game in which it was not leading in the first half. (We may not want to defer the kickoff this game)
    2) Atlanta always finishes strong: Atlanta has outscored every opponent in the second half this year, except twice against Detroit (both wins).
    3) You’re dealing with 3 legit primary receivers when playing the Falcon’s.
    4) Pass Rush or CB’s: Since we probably aren’t going to out pass Matt Ryan, and even if we slow the game down by rushing Lynch, what is the answer to 3 Quality Targets, and 2 Mid Targets(Rogers/Douglas). I don’t think we have an answer unless we are running some type of Bandit/Nickle D all 4 downs? Because our pass rush against good O-Lines has only been good in spurts and never sustained.

    Is Browner an answer to Julio Jones (does he have the speed to keep up with Jones on fly’s)? Is our LB core the answer to Gonzales? What about Jauqizz and Douglas?

    Somebody help me here, I’m worried

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    Packers?, they too had to deal with a totally different kind of game that wasn't geared to favor their style of play.
    This won't be an easy game for EITHER team.
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