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Baldwin. After the year he had last year, I was hoping he'd be at least as effective, and remain our 3rd down clutch receiver.


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Carp - injuries, but highly, highly talented @ LG.
Moffitt - fairly big, but not as powerful as weight would indicate in the run game. Still a good angle/wall off blocker.
Lockette - As physically talented as there is, but raw and inconsistent.
Flynn - Maybe an odd choice, but I actually still think he can't start in this league. Obviously not here with a star rook.
Moore - Has the makings of a nice pass catching TE as a former WR. Dropped balls here. Went to PHI and dropped the game winning TD pass of their last game.

Jason Jones - Not as explosive off the snap as I saw at TEN. Good player, but not worth a big contract. Don't think he'll require one for another year or two though.
Clinton McDonald - We have some of our biggest troubles in run D when he's in for Mebane @ 1 tech. Not a stout as we saw in TC. Gets blown off the LOS too often.
Jaye Howard - Has combine measurables that are as good as you want from a DT. Quick, fairly fast with a 4.7 40, can anchor, and even take on a double team sometimes. That was watching Florida film though and he hasn't touched the field hardly at all here
Leroy Hill - Still a solid player. Injuries and the speed of some of his backups make him look a step slower. He's being challenged. Again, still a solid player though. If he switches to SLB he's better than many players in the league at that position. With how we shift strong side sometimes he ends up playing SLB up on the LOS for us anyway just like Wright does. Depends on time allowed and the play call.
Toomer - kid has talent through the roof. Rushed the passer a lot from DE as well as LB. 4.4 and a 40 some odd vert. Shows explosion. Couldn't get his responsibilities down and we already have 3 other 4.4 LBs on the team. Really hope he sticks and makes himself useful next year.
Guy/Shead - I think Johnson is a good player and made the decision for everyone, but I was hoping either Guy or Shead could use their prototypical size/speed combination in that 3rd safety role. Again though, Johnson stepped up and took it before the rooks knew what was going on.
Thurmond - getting injured again is actually what I expected, but still disappointed.
Tru - He's been picked on at various times of the year. Some times he's been a step slow and sometimes he's been mentally beat whether it be not locating the ball or turning his hips late. I'm hoping this is his last season after a SB win. Time to hang it up, man. Hate to say it, but....


Some of these aren't actually "disappointments" per se, but made note of it anyway.


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How can you not like Browner regardless of if he gets penalized alot?? That makes no sense to me. Watch him play. ..

Jason Jones, Braylon, and in a different sense of the word, Earl Thomas. He's dropped SO many potential INTs... Yes he's been great but he had enough opportunities to take that next step to truly elite, unbelievable game changer, #1 safety in the league hands down etc. He's even admitted in a number of different interviews I've heard that he could of had 8 or 9 picks. I truly thought this year was going to be an insanely productive year for him. Just didn't happen. .. but obviously his play had still been fantastic. I might be the only one in this position but I just love the guy and have such high expectations for him.


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How can you not like Browner regardless of if he gets penalized alot?? That makes no sense to me.


Maybe I shouldn't have phrased it that way. I think Browner, I really think he's a great CB obviousley. I'm just still a little bitter from all his penalties from last year. After looking at the stats, he's done a great job keeping the penalties low.

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Red Bryant, he's been nearly invisible this year.


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Red Bryant, he's been nearly invisible this year.


Tru Dat....besides his 18 tackles and one punt block.


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I'd say Trufant, but my expectations were probably higher than they should have been due to my ignorance. As someone with a pretty limited knowledge of the Xs and Os and not being someone who has played the game in any serious way (unless Joe Montana Sports Talk Football counts), I didn't realize how different playing in the slot is from playing outside, and I assumed moving a decent outside corner to the slot would be a huge coup for us, making our secondary officially insane. I'm still disappointed in him, but I think that a lot of it was unnecessarily inflated expectations.

Jaye Howard or Thurmond for me. If Howard had turned out to be what was hoped for he'd be a huge asset to the team right now, though there's still time for him to turn around in the future, and Thurmond playing one game before getting hurt again is a huge bummer, definitely could've given our pass defense the huge bump I was hoping for from Trufant initially if he had stayed healthy. Not Walter's fault, but that doesn't console me too much.


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Evan Moore by a country mile. Come on guys, how did so many of you miss this one?

If I based this off of the 90 players that were on the roster in early August, I'd say Terrell Owens. At first I thought it was a joke when Seattle signed him, but then I saw the his workout footage and was really impressed with how well he held up. He seemed like a very strong candidate for comeback player of the year (at the time) and Seattle needed a big power WR like him. For about a week I fully expected him to be a roster lock. He ended up being among the first round of cuts, and that was after having one of the worst pre-season performances I'd ever seen.

I actually really liked Rice this season. He stayed mostly healthy in a year where he took some brutal hits. He was our #1 WR for the season statistically. And when he wasn't 100% in the final two games, it had a big impact on Wilson's ability to find targets quickly.


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Thurmond probably. If he was healthy, even Brady or Godgers would be afraid to throw. 3 elite cornerbacks (I truly believe Thurmond can be elite) with elite safeties, and it's probably the best secondary league has ever seen.


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I'd probably go with John Moffitt this year. I really had hoped he would solidify that RG spot for us, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Moffitt because he is Garbage.... :lol:

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This is a difficult question for me to answer, but I'd have to say Moffit also.

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Brandon Mebane. He really tailed off early on IMO.

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Based on how a lot of you felt in the preseason Im shocked Flynn isn't on the list.

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I can't believe I'm seeing Rice's name. Dude was huge for us this year. Game winning catches in both the Patriots and Bears games. He took a bunch of brutal hits this year and laid out on the line for us time and time again, so I'm OK with his relative inactivity the past two games.

I'm most disappointed in Sherman. I expected him to have more interceptions. :P

(Or I'm most disappointed in Jason Jones. Since he's been gone, I feel like our pass rush has really suffered. Baldwin would also be on this list for regular receivers. And Flynn was a huge disappointment as T-Sizzle mentioned, but moreso because his contract is now a bit of an albatross on the team's neck.)

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Im going Moffitt, I expected a lot of things with him and Carp, Carp has had some injuries, but the most part Moffitt has been healthy and to lose your position to a rookie who's never played the position before is very dissapointing.

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Based on how a lot of you felt in the preseason Im shocked Flynn isn't on the list.


I think it is more or less because he didn't lose the position per se, he just got beat out (injury probably helped). I was hopeful RW was our future cause I was hoping we would draft him, but man I think all of us are just happy as hell we have a QBOTF.

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In terms of not meeting my high expectations, I'd probably say Baldwin. He was ok, but obviously a big drop off from last year.


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I'm sorry, but Miller?

You're criticizing a guy for not having the offensive stat based production you expect because the coaching staff needs him to block?

If you want to be disappointed in that, be disappointed in the coaching or OL that makes it necessary for Miller to block as much as he does.

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miller...clearly not a probowl player. Kinda average.


Miller is arguably the best blocking TE in the league, without him our run heavy offense doesn't perform as well. Ask any of the coaches and they don't hesitate to sing his praises.

Carpenter is hands down the biggest disappointment. Not all his fault, he should have never been drafted in the first round which raised the expectations. But anytime a first rounder is drafted to be a cornerstone tackle and is immediately moved to guard because he can't hack it, and can't even start there either = disappointment.

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Aaron Curry.


Good call, was going to say the same thing!
He went from the hyped up pre-anointed 10 year all--pro Seahawks great, to out of the league. Unreal.

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I'm sorry, but Miller?

You're criticizing a guy for not having the offensive stat based production you expect because the coaching staff needs him to block?

If you want to be disappointed in that, be disappointed in the coaching or OL that makes it necessary for Miller to block as much as he does.


I dont get the Miller criticism either, his receiving has been very clutch this year on crucial 3rd downs and in the red zone (remember that one hander TD??!)
Our offense just doesnt rely heavily on TEs catching the ball so he doesnt post big numbers but I have been very happy with his emergence as a reliable target in clutch situations

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Braylon Edwards. Let the game winner in game 1 go right through his hands, followed it up with a bunch of meh, and went crying back to Rexie and the Jets.


God, how could I forget Braylon... bar none biggest dissapointment.


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Aaron Curry.


That was a Mora draft pick, I didn't know we were talking all time Hawks. In that case Bosworth..........by far the most hype of any Hawk draft pick (most of it out of his own mouth).

You could also throw in the long list of 1st round QB busts like Mirer, Stouffer and McGwire.

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I'd have to go with Doug Baldwin, which is hard because there have been a few great plays this season for him, but we really could have used last year's version of Doug Baldwin in those first several games where the offense was rough.

A lot of it is injury related for him too though. I'd be hard pressed to find a player I was disappointed with that wasn't due in large part to injury.

I'm also a little disappointed in many of the penalties on our O-Line.


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I'm going Bruce Irvin. I know it's not fair. He has 8 sacks, is a rook, and has played every game. It's the FO's fault for creating unreasonable expectations by picking guys like Wagner in the 2nd and Wilson in the 3rd :)


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Kris Durham and Ricardo Lockette for me. I was really thinking we may had found that #2 WR with good size that could take the top off the defense. Luckily Tate decided to step up and be a huge playmaker despite lacking the ideal size of the other 2.

I was also expecting more for Baldwin this season but know that injury had a lot to do with it. I'm glad he's started to show up big going into the playoffs.

Moore also was hugely dissapointing but glad Mccoy started showing up (even if he looks like a spaz when he's running the ball).

Had high hopes for Toomer taking over that WLB position from Hill. Happy Malcolm Smith is looking good though.

Was really hoping Jaye Howard would be able to step in for Jason Jones if needed. Apparently not the case yet.

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Trufant, so many 3rd and long coverages busted thanks to one player.
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Jones. I had high hopes of him, but he gets banged up a lot. I expected more from him. People complaining on Carp, he came back early remember? I wonder if he was ever 100%


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Confused by all the Baldwin hate right now... I believe he spent the off season working with flynn trying to get chemistry with him... that probably set him back as it most likely put him in the corner of Flynn. Also the guy had a nasty tooth injury in week 1. The last few weeks he has been the man though.

Biggest disappointment to me has to be Lockette... everyone during the first week or two thought he was going to be our number 1 wr.... now hes a scrub on a scrubby 49ers wr depth chart.


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