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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:52 am 
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SE174 wrote:
QB / Total TDs / INTs + Fumbles
Wilson: 30 / 15
RG3: 27 / 17
Luck: 28 / 28

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This argument needs to gain more traction ASAP


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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You have to love Floria telling Seahawks fans to stop whining when his Packers just lost to the Vikings and his first complaint is about a questionable call from week three.


Florio was a Steeler's fan, and PFT started as a Steeler fan site. He's only hyping the "Fail Mary" because he knows it sells. Every time that site publishes an article about it, that story hits their top-5 views list.

I think it's hilarious that the cheeseheads are still crying about that game. I can't wait to hear what they have to say if they actually make it to the NFCCG and we beat their asses in Lambeau.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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all the comments are so one sided and delusional in that article


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:33 pm 
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SE174 wrote:
QB / Total TDs / INTs + Fumbles
Wilson: 30 / 15
RG3: 27 / 17
Luck: 28 / 28

:thcoffee:

RG3 doesn't have 17 turnovers, its 5 interceptions and 2 fumbles lost.

My opinion of ROY is either one of Wilson or Griffin deserve it, and I wouldn't be mad either way.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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Killa Kam wrote:
SE174 wrote:
QB / Total TDs / INTs + Fumbles
Wilson: 30 / 15
RG3: 27 / 17
Luck: 28 / 28

:thcoffee:

RG3 doesn't have 17 turnovers, its 5 interceptions and 2 fumbles lost.

My opinion of ROY is either one of Wilson or Griffin deserve it, and I wouldn't be mad either way.


He's fumbled 12 times though, and fumbles are about a 50/50 recover rate.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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SE174 wrote:
QB / Total TDs / INTs + Fumbles
Wilson: 30 / 15
RG3: 27 / 17
Luck: 28 / 28

:thcoffee:


Is this fumbles or fumbles lost?

With TD and Turnovers (Int and fumbles lost) per ESPN

WIlson: 30/11
Luck: 28/19
RG3: 27/7


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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hawksfan515 wrote:
Killa Kam wrote:
SE174 wrote:
QB / Total TDs / INTs + Fumbles
Wilson: 30 / 15
RG3: 27 / 17
Luck: 28 / 28

:thcoffee:

RG3 doesn't have 17 turnovers, its 5 interceptions and 2 fumbles lost.

My opinion of ROY is either one of Wilson or Griffin deserve it, and I wouldn't be mad either way.


He's fumbled 12 times though, and fumbles are about a 50/50 recover rate.


You can say he has fumbled 12 times, but you cant say he has 17 turnovers when he doesnt.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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You can say he has fumbled 12 times, but you cant say he has 17 turnovers when he doesnt.



It's more the thought of that RG3 is consistently fumbling, and he will regress to the mean average of fumble recoveries, which is 50/50 instead of a 1/6 recovery rate for the defense, which is absurdly good. I'd say the same thing if RG3 fumbled 12 time and 10 were recovered, that it should improve as fumble recoveries are about 50/50.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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hawksfan515 wrote:
I didn't really like Florio's article that much anyways. Not a big fan of his picks. Like for executive of the year, he said John Elway, and Elway doesn't really deserve it, John Schneider does. Elway made a move my mom would make, John Schneider made a move everyone was afraid to do, and many more that no one would have touched with a 10 foot long pole. And they worked.


Not only that, but Peyton Manning will be playing golf in October five years from now. Wilson will be contending for Championships. Also, Manning is making 40 times Wilson's salary. Both have had similar values to their team THIS season, while Manning cost far more with less of a future. And that's not even talking about the rest of Seattle's clearly superior offseason.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilson wins Pro Football Talk Rookie of the Year
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1. If RGIII gets it his numbers say he deserves it
2. If Wilson gets it He deserves it
3. I love how a 49ers fan a Jags fan and a Pats fan were defending the seahawks with no one has ever got screwed like the Hawks and one of them brought up more then SB40. I guess I am just happy someone noticed outside of seattle
4. I think its a prfect time to CO ROY it. Fact is they both deserve it

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RG3 is the ROY of my Fantasy Team.

RW is the ROY of my SOUL!


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