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 Post subject: Concerned about PC's game management in the playoffs?
 Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:30 pm 
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1 overturned challenge out of 5 this season. Most of his lost challenges by the way have been obvious. A couple of dumb onside kicks that have backfired. So far nothing has really come back to haunt us and resulted in a loss but I am a little concerned Pete is gonna get "hormonal" again in the playoffs. A lost timeout could end up being crucial at the end of one of these games....


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1 overturned challenge out of 5 this season. Most of his lost challenges by the way have been obvious. A couple of dumb onside kicks that have backfired. So far nothing has really come back to haunt us and resulted in a loss but I am a little concerned Pete is gonna get "hormonal" again in the playoffs. A lost timeout could end up being crucial at the end of one of these games....

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He just finished the regular season with an 11-5 record.....Im okay with his game management
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That onside kick was fine. We kicked off with a 15 yard advantage because of a penalty. If Kam waits one more second, he easily recovers and Pete looks like a genius. I like the quote about him winning 11 games. Pete obviously knows what he is doing. In 3 years he turned us into this monster. There is not a person on earth I want more than Pete leading us into the playoffs.


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That onside kick was fine. We kicked off with a 15 yard advantage because of a penalty. If Kam waits one more second, he easily recovers and Pete looks like a genius. I like the quote about him winning 11 games. Pete obviously knows what he is doing. In 3 years he turned us into this monster. There is not a person on earth I want more than Pete leading us into the playoffs.

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If I remember correctly, one of those challenges he actually knew he would lose, but went for it anyway to buy some time. I cannot remember what game that was, but if I remember, it was a pretty good idea at the time.


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That onside kick was fine. We kicked off with a 15 yard advantage because of a penalty. If Kam waits one more second, he easily recovers and Pete looks like a genius. I like the quote about him winning 11 games. Pete obviously knows what he is doing. In 3 years he turned us into this monster. There is not a person on earth I want more than Pete leading us into the playoffs.

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I think it was a 3rd down pass to Miller (late 2nd qtr) that got (IMO) a really bad spot. I felt Pete should have challenged the spot. It was a big play at that time of the game. instead we punted and minutes later went to the half with a challenge and 2 time outs. I think we were fortunate Stl failed to score (FG?). Whether he's won 11 games or 18, under the circumstances, it wasn't smart football.

I'm a big advocate of punting for field position, but I am borderline on not kicking those FGs in today's first half. Especially at home.

The on-side kick was a no-brainer. I was shocked Stl wasn't better prepared. From the 50, I would onside kick every time without even hiding the fact.

I'm not down on Pete...just the opposite (I think he's COY). I mention the above merely for the sake of conversation. We won. I'm happy.


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Sprfunk wrote:
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That onside kick was fine. We kicked off with a 15 yard advantage because of a penalty. If Kam waits one more second, he easily recovers and Pete looks like a genius. I like the quote about him winning 11 games. Pete obviously knows what he is doing. In 3 years he turned us into this monster. There is not a person on earth I want more than Pete leading us into the playoffs.

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I approve you approving! Ha. On to the playoffs!


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I think it was a 3rd down pass to Miller (late 2nd qtr) , .


I wasn't able to watch the game an YET I know that

1) this was within 2 min to end the half

2) You can't challenge within 2 min of end of either half

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I'm not concerned about Papa Pete, but I'm damned sure concerned about whoever in the booth is telling him to challenge in many of these situations. Though, I think today's was just for an extra-long timeout, lol. If so, pure brilliance.

Taking this long to change up our play calling will kill is in the playoffs, though. Of that, I have no doubt. We were very slow to respond when the Rams were clearly winning against us in multiple facets.

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The thing about the challenge is that it wasn't a 100% wrong. They did move the ball, just not far enough. Apparently you must win both parts. It wasnt a complete loss, I suppose, but really, what is the league average on getting plays over turned? It can't be very high.


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HawkWow wrote:
I think it was a 3rd down pass to Miller (late 2nd qtr) , .


I wasn't able to watch the game an YET I know that

1) this was within 2 min to end the half

2) You can't challenge within 2 min of end of either half

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I did forget that stupid ass rule. But thanks for sharing your apparent super human powers.


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I like Trufant but i really think... trufant doesn't have the speed for the coverage we're gunna need into the playoffs. It was nice seeing him playtoday but watching he wasn't keeping up as much as he used to.

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If I remember correctly, one of those challenges he actually knew he would lose, but went for it anyway to buy some time. I cannot remember what game that was, but if I remember, it was a pretty good idea at the time.


I thought the spot challenge by Pete was brilliant because it sucked up a lot of time, disrupted Rams momentum, and gave our D a chance to rest.
It was like a 5-minute interruption. Pete challenged at the last possible moment.


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That on side kick was the perfect call! It would have worked great too if Kam hadn't gotten overly excited. There wasn't a Ram within 10 yards of that ball, or Kam.

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I did forget that stupid ass rule. But thanks for sharing your apparent super human powers.


Actually pretty simple it is called scorecenter and gamecast and this forum.

Read about the play being short on scorecenter, knew it was within 2 minutes, saw the posts on the forum complaining about Miller and posted that it was within 2 mins......


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I think Pete trusts the talent he has to lead them to victories in the playoffs. The in-game decisions will come into play more in close games. If we can get back to the "beat downs" of teams, then the only in-game decisions that will matter is if he's running up the score. During close games, I trust him to use his players to the best of his abilities. He does play conservative when playing the field position game, which could hurt the team since usually, especially in the playoffs you have to play the "play to win" mentality instead of the "play not to lose" mentality.


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I don't understand how we 'lost' the challenge yesterday.

The official spotted the ball wrong, they admitted that, so technically we 'won' the challenge.

Just because it's still, barely, a first down, shouldn't negate the fact that the ball was spotted wrong.

Pretty sure I have seen a game with similar circumstances(I.E. wrong spot, but still a first down), where the team didn't lose a timeout.

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If I remember correctly, one of those challenges he actually knew he would lose, but went for it anyway to buy some time. I cannot remember what game that was, but if I remember, it was a pretty good idea at the time.


I thought the spot challenge by Pete was brilliant because it sucked up a lot of time, disrupted Rams momentum, and gave our D a chance to rest.
It was like a 5-minute interruption. Pete challenged at the last possible moment.

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I don't understand how we 'lost' the challenge yesterday.

The official spotted the ball wrong, they admitted that, so technically we 'won' the challenge.

Just because it's still, barely, a first down, shouldn't negate the fact that the ball was spotted wrong.

Pretty sure I have seen a game with similar circumstances(I.E. wrong spot, but still a first down), where the team didn't lose a timeout.


I was saying the same thing to my brother during the game. The challenge was to challenge the spot of the ball and the ball was moved. I was just shaking my head at Triplette. He seems to be one of the refs who always mis-manages a game and gives all of these weird, off the wall explanations of things. Him and his crew seem very unorganized all the time.


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