Frightening Thought: Russell Wilson will get better

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  • AirForceSeahawk wrote:I think that's what people are confused about. Many of us are excited about the future, not just this year performance. And we are surprised that it happened now.

    Not everyone is. I saw flashes in the KC preseason game. And I posted about it after that game though it got very little raction. I'm no expert but I do watch a QB's head to see if he is able to go through his read progressions and is able to look off the safety. In order to be able to do those 2 things he must have an excellent understanding of the offense and be able read the defense correctly. Reading defenses and then choosing the correct place to throw the ball (as in single coverage) is the number one thing that will make a QB successful at the college or pro level. I saw RW doing just that in the preseason game vs. KC. He has obviously improved on this ability as the season has progressed, but he's pretty much had it to some extent all along as witnessed by his like 18 TDs and ZERO interceptions in the red zone this year. Russ will improve plenty over the years, but I for one am not entirely surprised by how rapidly he's got to the point he is at.

    Oh and Kearly saw it after that KC game too so it wasn't just me.
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  • Wilson to Stevie Johnson would be insanely fun to watch. I wish the Bills would make another idiotic trade with us.
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  • Well it is kinda scary that he can get better.

    I think he can (and will) get better with his accuracy. Some of his deep balls are a bit underthrown. He can also get sharper on his over all accuracy, which he has already done impressively this season. Game 1 and last game are almost bipolar opposites.

    Once he can consistently get the ball into tighter windows, he won't have to double clutch as much (elite WR would help this), and can beat blitzes with quicker hot reads that are actually open.

    We're a WR and a couple more very good OLmen away from being a Patriots-esque offensive dynasty.
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  • hawksfansinceday1 wrote:Not everyone is. I saw flashes in the KC preseason game. And I posted about it after that game though it got very little raction. I'm no expert but I do watch a QB's head to see if he is able to go through his read progressions and is able to look off the safety. In order to be able to do those 2 things he must have an excellent understanding of the offense and be able read the defense correctly. Reading defenses and then choosing the correct place to throw the ball (as in single coverage) is the number one thing that will make a QB successful at the college or pro level. I saw RW doing just that in the preseason game vs. KC. He has obviously improved on this ability as the season has progressed, but he's pretty much had it to some extent all along as witnessed by his like 18 TDs and ZERO interceptions in the red zone this year. Russ will improve plenty over the years, but I for one am not entirely surprised by how rapidly he's got to the point he is at.

    Oh and Kearly saw it after that KC game too so it wasn't just me.


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  • mikeak wrote:
    hawksfansinceday1 wrote:Not everyone is. I saw flashes in the KC preseason game. And I posted about it after that game though it got very little raction. I'm no expert but I do watch a QB's head to see if he is able to go through his read progressions and is able to look off the safety. In order to be able to do those 2 things he must have an excellent understanding of the offense and be able read the defense correctly. Reading defenses and then choosing the correct place to throw the ball (as in single coverage) is the number one thing that will make a QB successful at the college or pro level. I saw RW doing just that in the preseason game vs. KC. He has obviously improved on this ability as the season has progressed, but he's pretty much had it to some extent all along as witnessed by his like 18 TDs and ZERO interceptions in the red zone this year. Russ will improve plenty over the years, but I for one am not entirely surprised by how rapidly he's got to the point he is at.

    Oh and Kearly saw it after that KC game too so it wasn't just me.


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  • THE TABS wrote:Here's the thing about Wilson that a lot of people haven't realized yet; he's having the season he's having while running his third offensive system in three years. His ability to process information so quickly is impressive.

    Now, if we can get him a true game breaker to throw to, this offense will be truly scary, and will cement us as legitimate title contenders for the next five years and beyond.




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  • Tech Worlds wrote:Rams fans say he is overrated.


    That's because this sunday hasn't come and gone yet. Let's ask them how they feel afterwards.
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  • djb28 wrote:I still Think T.O would have had one hell of a season here!


    Hummmm....Pete and the rest of the coaches would not agree with you. They must have had some mighty good reasons for letting him go.
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  • drdiags wrote:The Seahawks haven't armed Wilson with the Hurry-Up yet. They probably have been working on it and most likely will break it out next week. I am not sure how much freedom he has with audibles either. So he should get better as time goes on and he has full command of the playbook.


    If they've been working on hurry-up, they should wait to unleash it on either the Niners, the Packers, or the Falcons in the playoffs.
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  • A complete off season w/ him as the "known" starter and I expect an explosive improvement that will put the fear of god in all Defenses on the planet. Combine that w/ a couple more pieces and we become a true elite powerhouse......damn I am excited. Go Hawks!!
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
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    MontanaHawk05 wrote:He'll get better once we get better receivers.


    exactly what I was about to post. I think we draft another Doug Baldwin or Golden tate type of playing or maybe get one VIA FA which I doubt will happen.


    That's what I DON'T want. I want someone who can run routes, flash open in the first two seconds pf the play, give us some quick short/intermediate options, rather than forcing Wilson to double-clutch from the pocket ten times and then scramble a la SF. He's amazing at it, but eventually I fear it's going to get him killed. I'd like DeAndre Hopkins or Markus Wheaton.


    I was thinking about this and looking back at the SF game in particular - Wilson's scrambling style is going to quickly force coaches to tell their defenders to textbook tackle rather than looking for the big hit to shake him up (which is usually what you'd aim for to make him think twice), because he's making defenders look foolish every time they come at him too quickly.
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  • Yakima Hawkster wrote:
    If they've been working on hurry-up, they should wait to unleash it on either the Niners, the Packers, or the Falcons in the playoffs.


    I'd much rather them try to practice it against the Rams a few times instead of trying it out for the first time in the playoffs.
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  • I think part of the amazement we're seeing here is because we've seen so much of an improvement from day one until now. Luck and RGIII have been playing at their respective levels most of the season. Wilson was thrown into the mix with little preparation, and yet continues to learn and improve week to week. I think it's also contributed to the success we've seen the last few weeks. Suddenly he's given the go and allowed to do more, and he is, and teams haven't seen that before. They game-planned the Russell Wilson from a few weeks ago, and it's just not the same.

    He has a high, high ceiling. The frightening thought is that his ceiling is already higher than most folks thought, and he has years before he's considered "in his prime."

    Oh, and yea, this:

    12thMode wrote:
    Yakima Hawkster wrote:
    If they've been working on hurry-up, they should wait to unleash it on either the Niners, the Packers, or the Falcons in the playoffs.


    I'd much rather them try to practice it against the Rams a few times instead of trying it out for the first time in the playoffs.
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  • Russell "Tremendous" Wilson has a tremendously high ceiling.
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  • drdiags wrote:The Seahawks haven't armed Wilson with the Hurry-Up yet. They probably have been working on it and most likely will break it out next week. I am not sure how much freedom he has with audibles either. So he should get better as time goes on and he has full command of the playbook.



    Gotta disagree with you friend.

    Only way we break out the hurry up offense is if we need serious catchup.

    Seahawks mantra is one of time managment. We don't need to have a sprint race with teams like GB, NE, we would lose, they have been doing this for years.
    What is important to note is one of the reasons NE always has problems with it, is that it puts the opposing offense on the field to fast too soon.
    Best defense for us is to keep their offense on the sidelines, and we take our leisure in scoring.

    It's all about time control. We just don't want to do whats "hip", we don't need to. we have a defense, that can actually stop the other team.
    No sense keeping the our D on the field all the time.. rest them and when they come in..look out!
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  • Team reporters state that the plan is to implement the no-huddle as a tactic next year. Based on conversations with Seahawks coaches. Whether they ever use it or not is another thing.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:Rams fans say he is overrated.



    That's funny - I say the same thing about their QB.
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  • Ok not to tout my own horn...... Nevermind LET'S!!

    I called it last week. I said a hurry-up like NE did against 49ers so a true hurry up not the Peyton Manning no-huddle and to that add the read option and go Iregon style would crush opponents. There are not many teams that could defend against RW and Lynch in a hurry-up read offense.

    The way to control clock in this mode is more short passes and runs. You still eat time by keeping the chains moving. As the long ball opens up you take a few shots to keep defenses honest.

    I love this an woul not be surprise to see a few series in the playoffs...
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  • I don't want to play devil's advocate here but I'd like to point out there have been other QB's to have good/great rookie seasons only to slump or fall off completely. Personally I feel Wilson is different in that he works his tail off week in and week out. The other thing helping him out is the team Schneider/Carroll have put together. Unlike some/most of the other QB's to drop off we actually have a good...no great team.
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  • Luckily we have a Defense that can score and S p e c i a l teams. Its a very good looking team on film.
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  • ceej22 wrote:I don't want to play devil's advocate here but I'd like to point out there have been other QB's to have good/great rookie seasons only to slump or fall off completely. Personally I feel Wilson is different in that he works his tail off week in and week out. The other thing helping him out is the team Schneider/Carroll have put together. Unlike some/most of the other QB's to drop off we actually have a good...no great team.


    There have been sophomore slumps to be sure, but even with some of the perceived "slumps" we're seeing with guys like Bradford and Newton, they're not statistically that bad. At least not as bad as we sometimes make it out to be.
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  • ceej22 wrote:I don't want to play devil's advocate here but I'd like to point out there have been other QB's to have good/great rookie seasons only to slump or fall off completely. Personally I feel Wilson is different in that he works his tail off week in and week out. The other thing helping him out is the team Schneider/Carroll have put together. Unlike some/most of the other QB's to drop off we actually have a good...no great team.


    I think (no stat to back this up) that sophomore slump usually comes from extremely gifted players. Those players that doesn't have to put in the same amount of work and yet excel at their position. As they get lazy / overconfident in the offseason AND opposing teams gets 16 games on tape they create the sophomore slump. The difference in players like RW and Peyton Manning is that their work ethic is what makes them continue to develop and stay one step ahead continuously.
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  • I was thinking about this and looking back at the SF game in particular - Wilson's scrambling style is going to quickly force coaches to tell their defenders to textbook tackle rather than looking for the big hit to shake him up (which is usually what you'd aim for to make him think twice), because he's making defenders look foolish every time they come at him too quickly.





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  • mikeak wrote:
    ceej22 wrote:I don't want to play devil's advocate here but I'd like to point out there have been other QB's to have good/great rookie seasons only to slump or fall off completely. Personally I feel Wilson is different in that he works his tail off week in and week out. The other thing helping him out is the team Schneider/Carroll have put together. Unlike some/most of the other QB's to drop off we actually have a good...no great team.


    I think (no stat to back this up) that sophomore slump usually comes from extremely gifted players. Those players that doesn't have to put in the same amount of work and yet excel at their position. As they get lazy / overconfident in the offseason AND opposing teams gets 16 games on tape they create the sophomore slump. The difference in players like RW and Peyton Manning is that their work ethic is what makes them continue to develop and stay one step ahead continuously.


    :13: It is all about work ethic....and no one else works harder than Russell! How many of the other QB's mentioned give "game plans" to their fellow players before Tuesday morning?
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  • Just imagine where he'd be if he hadn't had to wait until preseason week 3 to get first team reps! The force is strong with this one!

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