What would you give to pair Russ with a top 10 ALL TIME wr?

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  • I have said a few times in multiple threads (padding thread count is a productive way) that I would love to have a megatron/Fitz game changing WR. Do you (the reader) think that a 22-24 year old baller WR would put us over the hump in tandem with Russ? If so, what would you be willing to give up for him? Flynn + 1stf ro Fitz at close to 30? Okung + 1st for megatron? 1st and blah blah for robert woods....guy from clemson? I guess I am asking, what would you give to pair the glory of Russ with the Schneider approved WR baller of the future. Could you sacrifice a top 10 D for a top 5 O?
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  • I'd give up both Flynn and Browner for Fizgerald.


    Only because the other three guys we have and the up and comers.
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  • I"m not sure any of that is feasable..
    however I have an alternative..

    Al Toon

    Al Toon was his fav receiver from WI who was drafted by NO and is still with NO. I think he sat out this year with a injury of some sort, but him and RW connected pretty good in college.

    Besides, why would Pheonix give up their one real star who is an outstanding community person as well for a QB and be left with a QB but no receiver? Would make no sense to me.

    Might be able to get Dockett though.
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  • No actually I wouldnt trade within our division. So maybe Browner and a 1st rounder for Calvin Johnson.
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  • I know it's not feasible, we're just playing pretend.
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  • i want brandon marshall right now... i'll take Harvin , fitz, or cruz as well
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  • Depending on the doing...

    The trade value is...

    Seahawks Receives:

    Top 10 receiver


    Other Team Receives:

    2012 1st rounder

    2012 3rd rounder

    Top 5 player on our team... (Sherman, Lynch, Wagner, Thomas, Okung)

    At the end of the its not worth it because our superbowl caliber team isn't worth the risk. Never would happen anyway because we have a core base of our team. We need to add weapons in the draft on offense and studs on defense...
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  • Yeah, feasible or not I guess the question is how much of the defense would you sacrifice for a legit lead leading number 1 at the expense for our defense or special teams.
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  • We did this already TO didn't work out.
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  • skater18000 wrote:Depending on the doing...

    The trade value is...

    Seahawks Receives:

    Top 10 receiver


    Other Team Receives:

    2012 1st rounder

    2012 3rd rounder

    Top 5 player on our team... (Sherman, Lynch, Wagner, Thomas, Okung)

    At the end of the its not worth it because our superbowl caliber team isn't worth the risk. Never would happen anyway because we have a core base of our team. We need to add weapons in the draft on offense and studs on defense...


    Where did you come up with this?

    Sherman and Thomas are more valuable alone than probably all but 3 WRs in the entire league. How do you figure we would need to trade away one of them, a 1st and 3rd for a Brandon Marshall(or other top 10 WR)? We could get him straight up for Sherman or Thomas. Not that we ever would do that.
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  • We could easily get the most electric receiver in this draft, and I don't think any trades are required. Tavon Austin from West Virginia. He's smallish.... he reminds me of a guy with Cliff Branch's size, Steve Largent's hands, Darryl Turner's break-away speed, Joey Galloway's confidence and build, and Russell Wilson's moves and intelligence and work-habits. Now tell me... does that sound like a guy who with a great QB throwing to him could become a top 10 receiver? Sure does to me. Even better than that... he's a great kid. Works hard, is kind and giving, and is a Mack Strong type of personality, he is an honor roll student in college and played his whole "contract" (scholarship) out and had a redshirt year to improve his game, but also to finish his degree and honor his commitment, so unlike a lot of receivers, I think Tavon is ready day 1 and can be used as a returner, receiver either in the slot or the outside, and has even played running back (oh the thought of the trickeration or even the threat of it are awesome). I think he's like Golden Tate, but he'll put it together a lot sooner. He moves in the open field like a cheetah. It's amazing to watch him run after the catch. He glides and everybody else seems stuck in glue.

    There are chances to draft some really fine receivers this year. Some really good chances. I'd take Tavon with our first rounder and wouldn't look back.
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  • Have u been watching us play.....
    We don't need no stupid trade for a reciever to:
    "Get us over the hump"
    We are over the hump!

    Rice is a great #1
    Tate is a great #2
    Baldwin is starting to ball...

    Lets target more defensive lineman or a pass rushing speed linebacker.
    One offensive player I'd consider for the right deal is Reggie bush to replace Washington.
    I still like Leon but bush could be versatile Ala Percy harvin and pàir with lynch amazingly for potentially a much better value than Percy.

    Still, draft is a better resource for this team.
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  • If we could get Johnson. I'd give the Lions 3 first round draft picks
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  • If we could get Larry Fitzgerald and a Super Bowl win, I'd give my left nut. And I'm not joking.
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  • Andre Johnson, or Larry Fitzgerald I don't care how old they are, I'd give a first rounder and possibly some change for either.
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  • I'd love Fitz, but a player like him with his contract would cost us elsewhere, and I'm not prepared to give anyone up.

    I'd much rather see us do a Falcons-type trade up for a Julio Jones/AJ Green type (if there's one available of course)
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  • I would like to test the market for Harvin. Reunite him with Bevell and Rice.
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  • I have complete faith that P&J will find a gem or two in the draft. We're at the point now where all we need is a few players to really fill out this roster. I would like to see a true #1 WR, speed/coverage LB, and a immovable DT obtained in the draft. Beyond that it's just gravy.
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  • I've been saying it all year and it's finally coming to fruition, Don't forget Baldwin was our #1 receiver last year. But I do think we have one spot to fill. The Butler/Kearse spot..

    Rice, Baldwin, Tate, now butler (don't know how that will turn out yet). I'm not a fan of Kearse so far, I'm thinking Butler will take his job. But getting a Star, top 5 guy in that spot would be amazing.
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  • Meh. Whoever teams up with Wilson for the next few years might just turn into a top 10 receiver. ;)

    It's much better when the "stars" emerge from your team than it is trying to trade for them.

    I want home grown talent, not retreads.
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  • Show me a wide receiver that has a similar work ethic that RW has and RW will help make him a top 10 all time WR.

    Won't have to give up much, we'll just have to find that diamond in the rough.
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  • Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure any of that is feasable..
    however I have an alternative..

    Al Toon


    That's Nick Toon. Al Toon's son. Al was a Pro Bowl receiver 25 years ago.
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  • sutz wrote:Meh. Whoever teams up with Wilson for the next few years might just turn into a top 10 receiver. ;)

    It's much better when the "stars" emerge from your team than it is trying to trade for them.

    I want home grown talent, not retreads.


    Very well said. I agree.

    And I'm also in agreement with Shark here. I think Tavon Austin, if paired with Russell Wilson, would have an excellent career. I'm a big fan of his and he'd be a NIGHTMARE playing in the same offense with Marshawn, Russell, etc. I know everybody's enamored with the taller, bigger WR's these days but you usually want those guys for the red zone and situations where they can use their size to their advantage. I don't think that will matter much with Russ at QB. He seems to be able to spread the ball around at will in the red zone leading to his amazing red zone efficiency.

    Somebody like Austin who could not only stretch and take the top off the defense with his blazing speed as well as be a nuisance after the catch, that's the kind of guy I'd want. We all know PC/JS are all about guys with "unique skill sets." Well, look no further then Tavon Austin.
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  • BlueTalon wrote:If we could get a Super Bowl win, I'd give my left nut. And I'm not joking.

    Fixed it for you Talon. :mrgreen:
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  • I would like a top wr. Who wouldn't. But I wouldn't give up the world for one. RW is the type of qb that can make his wr's better than they are. Similar to Peyton Manning. His insane work ethic and attention to detail is the sort of thing that helps build chemistry with his wr's.

    Having Russell Wilson doesn't make me want an all world wr more. It makes me want one less. I'd still like one. But give Russell time with a unit of wr's, as he's had this season now, and just give him solid ones. He'll help with the rest.
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  • We don't run an offense needing of a top receiver, our receivers are doing rather well. If anything another Tate type receiver would really be nice someone who once the ball is in their hands is electric YAC is where it's at.
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  • SharkHawk wrote:We could easily get the most electric receiver in this draft, and I don't think any trades are required. Tavon Austin from West Virginia. He's smallish.... he reminds me of a guy with Cliff Branch's size, Steve Largent's hands, Darryl Turner's break-away speed, Joey Galloway's confidence and build, and Russell Wilson's moves and intelligence and work-habits. Now tell me... does that sound like a guy who with a great QB throwing to him could become a top 10 receiver? Sure does to me. Even better than that... he's a great kid. Works hard, is kind and giving, and is a Mack Strong type of personality, he is an honor roll student in college and played his whole "contract" (scholarship) out and had a redshirt year to improve his game, but also to finish his degree and honor his commitment, so unlike a lot of receivers, I think Tavon is ready day 1 and can be used as a returner, receiver either in the slot or the outside, and has even played running back (oh the thought of the trickeration or even the threat of it are awesome). I think he's like Golden Tate, but he'll put it together a lot sooner. He moves in the open field like a cheetah. It's amazing to watch him run after the catch. He glides and everybody else seems stuck in glue.

    There are chances to draft some really fine receivers this year. Some really good chances. I'd take Tavon with our first rounder and wouldn't look back.


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  • Dwayne Bowe, though I love what Tate and Rice are doing out there, they seem fragile in this physical type offense and Rice is always nicked up. Tate needs to do some serious upped body work this season. All that being said, I'm extremely happy with what they've done this year. I would want that physical wide receiver like Bowe and Coach Carroll has shown interest in those types before, i.e. Brandon Marshall.
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  • hawksfansinceday1 wrote:
    BlueTalon wrote:If we could get a Super Bowl win, I'd give my left nut. And I'm not joking.

    Fixed it for you Talon. :mrgreen:

    Not having Fitz would be a deal breaker for me.

    I would, however, give it up for three Super Bowl wins. I'd give up both for five -- or for three SB wins and a meteor hitting Pittsburgh during a steelers/49ers game.
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  • run and shoot wrote:We don't run an offense needing of a top receiver, our receivers are doing rather well. If anything another Tate type receiver would really be nice someone who once the ball is in their hands is electric YAC is where it's at.


    I agree that we have the offense and the QB to make any receiver good but think of what a good offense and great QB could do with a top 10 WR like Fitz, Johnson, or... Johnson. That's Young/Rice, Manning/Harrison/Wayne, Cunningham/Moss/Carter, etc. Seems like most of those dynamic duos have a ring or two.
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  • Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure any of that is feasable..
    however I have an alternative..

    Al Toon

    Al Toon was his fav receiver from WI who was drafted by NO and is still with NO. I think he sat out this year with a injury of some sort, but him and RW connected pretty good in college.

    Besides, why would Pheonix give up their one real star who is an outstanding community person as well for a QB and be left with a QB but no receiver? Would make no sense to me.

    Might be able to get Dockett though.


    Hey Bob,
    Do you mean Nick as in Nick Toon. Al has been retired for awhile now.
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