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  • NJSeaHawk wrote:Ahh its you...I was at Carlow East waiting for you. Guess you are still an internet thug!

    Not a thug at all. But very, very real. I dont visit Jersey much though, sorry.

    thats why I was at NYC. I made it easier for you. You know, it being a major travel hub and whatnot.

    And his defense. A cup breaking so they put it in another cup? Sounds airtight to me. :roll:

    I'm the internet thug - because you keep challenging me to fly somewhere to meet you? That makes me the internet tough guy? I'm an internet douchebag, nothing more or less. But, you keep challenging people to fly 3,000 miles to confront you, gumdrop.

    Doesn't matter what YOU think. If that's what occured, that's a major "no-no".
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  • What else would he say? Richard is always confident, which I love.

    I am skeptical that he is going with the same arguement Browner made before taking the suspension that "they tampered with the sample."
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  • Stay on topic, bros. We just won a huge game and the thread is about what Sherman said. He could have demurred and said something generic like "the process will play out." When he said "THEY BROKE THE RULES" I took notice. I've never heard a player in appeal say something like tht before the judgement. Again, I'm not making a claim, simply stating what I heard and how I felt about it.
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  • NJSeaHawk wrote:
    And his defense. A cup breaking so they put it in another cup? Sounds airtight to me. :roll:

    I love how everyone with literally no knowledge of the situation or how the appeal went act like they know how what happened and how the appeal will go...
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  • pehawk wrote:
    NJSeaHawk wrote:Ahh its you...I was at Carlow East waiting for you. Guess you are still an internet thug!


    Not a thug at all. But very, very real. I dont visit Jersey much though, sorry.


    thats why I was at NYC. I made it easier for you. You know, it being a major travel hub and whatnot.

    And his defense. A cup breaking so they put it in another cup? Sounds airtight to me. :roll:[/quote]

    I'm the internet thug - because you keep challenging me to fly somewhere to meet you? That makes me the internet tough guy? I'm an internet douchebag, nothing more or less. But, you keep challenging people to fly 3,000 miles to confront you, gumdrop.

    Doesn't matter what YOU think. If that's what occured, that's a major "no-no".[/quote]



    I dont know where you are at. But you insulted me like the internet warrior you are, so I told you where you could find me so you could do it face to face.
    And it doesnt matter what I think? Thanks for the update, genius. This is a board as a fan where I can say what I want.
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  • I insult everyone, but mainly myself so quit whining, Maria.
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  • Sherman should lay off of it....what's he? 3 INTs and 2 pick 6's without it?
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  • pehawk wrote:I insult everyone, but mainly myself so quit whining, Maria.



    thats what I thought.

    Again.
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  • Again, please read the thread title. Personal issues should be handled with PMs.
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  • I cant believe Pehawk's too much of a puss to fly out to New Jersey. Someone take away his man card.
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  • sutz wrote:What else is he going to say?

    :229031_shrug:


    BINGO!

    Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but what the hell is he supposed to say?
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  • JSeahawks wrote:I cant believe Pehawk's too much of a puss to fly out to New Jersey. Someone take away his man card.


    No, I made it easier for him! I told him I was going to be in NYC tonight. that way, at least make a trip out of it!
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  • HawkAroundTheClock wrote:Stay on topic, bros. We just won a huge game and the thread is about what Sherman said. He could have demurred and said something generic like "the process will play out." When he said "THEY BROKE THE RULES" I took notice. I've never heard a player in appeal say something like tht before the judgement. Again, I'm not making a claim, simply stating what I heard and how I felt about it.



    You didn't take notice that he said "The league can break rules but players can't"? He, IMO, wasn't demure because he (now) likely has nothing (more) to lose.

    Again, I hope I am wrong and if he wins, like yourself, I will admire his brashness. But not until. Based on what I took away from that interview, if I were Vegas, I'd make the odds 3-1 that he gets the ax. Don't want to piss is anyone's cheerios, especially mine, but I don't want anyone that didn't actually see the interview getting their hopes up, either.
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  • aside from the personal attacks on me and how dare I post what my opinion is because Im not a lawyer...

    the main point of this thread was Sherman's bravado when asked a question. All I was saying is he sounds very optimistic about his appeal. Sure he loves the spotlight and is braggadocious, but to say they broke the rules is saying he isn't worried.

    Thats all. Hugs and Kisses to all.
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  • Rocket wrote:
    sutz wrote:What else is he going to say?

    :229031_shrug:


    BINGO!

    Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but what the hell is he supposed to say?

    Personally I think he should of said nothing. I think he hurt himself with the comments.
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  • Shut up J.

    What the hell are you to rubes fighting about after we just ran up 42 on the friggin Niners and physically dominated them right before Christmas. Wilson has put the fear of God in the rest of the league for the playoffs and you two pick an internal pretend squabble?!

    NJ get your ass to the CLink and Pe buys a beer or two.

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  • HawkWow wrote:
    HawkAroundTheClock wrote:Stay on topic, bros. We just won a huge game and the thread is about what Sherman said. He could have demurred and said something generic like "the process will play out." When he said "THEY BROKE THE RULES" I took notice. I've never heard a player in appeal say something like tht before the judgement. Again, I'm not making a claim, simply stating what I heard and how I felt about it.



    You didn't take notice that he said "The league can break rules but players can't"? He, IMO, wasn't demure because he (now) likely has nothing (more) to lose.

    Again, I hope I am wrong and if he wins, like yourself, I will admire his brashness. But not until. Based on what I took away from that interview, if I were Vegas, I'd make the odds 3-1 that he gets the ax. Don't want to piss is anyone's cheerios, especially mine, but I don't want anyone that didn't actually see the interview getting their hopes up, either.


    I think you're reading him wrong, honestly.

    Having been in situations like this (obviously not identical) I kept my mouth and middle finger up to the system the entire time. I was advised not to, repeatidly, but knew I was right, so kept it up. I have a feeling Sherman's doing a bit of that. He's a talker, it’s what he does, at all times and in all circumstances.

    Talkers talk.
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  • pehawk wrote:
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    HawkAroundTheClock wrote:Stay on topic, bros. We just won a huge game and the thread is about what Sherman said. He could have demurred and said something generic like "the process will play out." When he said "THEY BROKE THE RULES" I took notice. I've never heard a player in appeal say something like tht before the judgement. Again, I'm not making a claim, simply stating what I heard and how I felt about it.



    You didn't take notice that he said "The league can break rules but players can't"? He, IMO, wasn't demure because he (now) likely has nothing (more) to lose.

    Again, I hope I am wrong and if he wins, like yourself, I will admire his brashness. But not until. Based on what I took away from that interview, if I were Vegas, I'd make the odds 3-1 that he gets the ax. Don't want to piss is anyone's cheerios, especially mine, but I don't want anyone that didn't actually see the interview getting their hopes up, either.


    I think you're reading him wrong, honestly.

    Having been in situations like this (obviously not identical) I kept my mouth and middle finger up to the system the entire time. I was advised not to, repeatidly, but knew I was right, so kept it up. I have a feeling Sherman's doing a bit of that. He's a talker, it’s what he does, at all times and in all circumstances.

    Talkers talk.


    Sherm is arguably my favorite player. Believe me, I want to be wrong, but aside from all of the "that's just him" commentary here, how would you explain, or rationalise his comment "the league can break rules but players can't"? (para-phrased). That is the 'in the heat of the moment, eurphoric from the win' comment that is the source of my uncertainty. How does that translate to..."I did nothing wrong"?
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  • I have no doubt he tested positive, but they have procedures they MUST follow for HPPA. Its the rules. Its the rules, period, most likely goverened by state and/or federal guidelines.

    In Snohomish County you can pull court documents, to Superior Court judges, where I would randomly insert a picture of a geoducks. It made the judges hate every cell in my body, but it was my way of talking trash, in a scenario I knew I'd eventually win. I read Sherms comments like that.

    Its Sherman, appeals over, he's gonna talk specifics now.
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  • Well, if that's the case, he broke the rules and is now flaunting the fact he beat the rap on a technicality, I want him to STFU more than ever. There is nothing admirable about cheating and it sends the wrong message to the impressionable.

    Yes, I'm serious. I'm no choir boy, I will break one rule or another by lunch tomorrow, but I'm not going to scream about it from the roof tops or rub anyone's nose in it either.

    We have a good thing going in Seattle, we don't need the refs, NFL, whomever after us any more than they already are. Don't applaud such behaviour, then be surprized when calls don't go our way. Yes, he is a big name, but he's not bigger than the NFL.
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  • Yeah, I don't like him calling out the NFL on live TV. We don't need another XL.
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  • But nobody was calling out the NFL before XL... and we still got... XL. So, why should he be quiet?
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  • HawkWow wrote:Well, if that's the case, he broke the rules and is now flaunting the fact he beat the rap on a technicality

    No....he has consistently denied the allegations, now he is saying, here, her is the proof that I am innocent, they messed up the chain of command and therefore the results are invalid.. That's what I take from it.
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  • Jazzhawk wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:Well, if that's the case, he broke the rules and is now flaunting the fact he beat the rap on a technicality

    No....he has consistently denied the allegations, now he is saying, here, her is the proof that I am innocent, they messed up the chain of command and therefore the results are invalid.. That's what I take from it.



    Understood, I was responding to a previous poster that (basically) said he believed Sherm was guilty, but going to get off, and is now giving the finger to the system. Others thought that was some kind of cool as well. I disagreed with that.

    The XL example was spot on. It don't take a Stanford grad to understand things can be made uncomfortable for us. Lets win a title then these guys can pop off all they want thereafter.
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  • The last thing I want to do is be argumentative after a HUGE Seahawks win, but I'll reiterate my point that before XL our team was walking the line. Nobody was out of step, or bad mouthing the league, or taunting its Golden Boy QBs, and we still got hosed in XL. So why would Sherman talking now make a difference? Our fear feels more like superstition than anything real.
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  • I think our team has earned a reputation as a young, loud, brash, nasty team. Sherman is a leader of this team. He sets the tone. By talking he sets the tone and the rest of the defense takes note. It's what has created the massive amount of swagger this team has, I want Sherman to talk, I want Sherman to embarass people, it's what he does best. IMO, SHerman should tell the whole world about it.
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  • HawkAroundTheClock wrote:The last thing I want to do is be argumentative after a HUGE Seahawks win, but I'll reiterate my point that before XL our team was walking the line. Nobody was out of step, or bad mouthing the league, or taunting its Golden Boy QBs, and we still got hosed in XL. So why would Sherman talking now make a difference? Our fear feels more like superstition than anything real.


    You're right, other than Stevens, we were a very respectable group (and still got hosed). I mean no disresepct here, but using such logic is like saying, I got hit by a Kam truck (lol) while walking on the sidewalk, so from now on, I might as well walk on the freeway.

    I just think it's better to not rile these aholes. As you suggest, they have it in for us already. BTW, I think the teary-eyed retirement of "the face of the NFL", Jerome Bettis, playing his final game in his home town, played a role against us in XL. I could be wrong.
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  • HawkAroundTheClock wrote:The last thing I want to do is be argumentative after a HUGE Seahawks win, but I'll reiterate my point that before XL our team was walking the line. Nobody was out of step, or bad mouthing the league, or taunting its Golden Boy QBs, and we still got hosed in XL. So why would Sherman talking now make a difference? Our fear feels more like superstition than anything real.


    I am so with you on this. Walk the line, and get hosed in Super Bowl XL. Better to create drama and *interest* by arguing and posturing. Remember 44 Boz Inc. selling 10,000 "Ban the Boz" T-Shirts to Bronco fans? The NFL is an *entertainment* product. They are competing with other programming, including the reality TV schlock. Sherman is creating great drama for the NFL, that stands a good chance of *IMPROVING RATINGS*. It doesn't matter whether people agree or disagree, like, or dislike Sherman, as long as they pay attention and WATCH the games, comment on the NFL and ESPN forum threads, etc.
    By this same reasoning, the NFL would WANT the Seahawks and the Packers to meet in a playoff game, with the storyline of the Packers "avenging" the "Fail Mary" defeat.

    So Sherm, keep running your mouth and calling out the NFL. Thank God you're not toeing the NFL line, and if we make it to the Super Bowl this year, the chances of getting jobbed are much smaller than before XL. The NFL made the storyline on XL all about "The Bus" and how he needed a championship to complete his career. I don't even recall any storylines from the Seahawks side that the media pushed.

    This year, in a Super Bowl, there should be plenty of storylines. Russell Wilson, rookie quarterback, with the opportunity to make history. Sherman, is he or isn't he cheating, and the NFL was forced to delay rulings until after the playoffs due to legal/procedural issues. The more storylines there are about the Seahawks that grab national attention, the less likely we'll get jobbed. So Sherm, yak it up, dude! Trash-talk those nasty mean old NFL fogies, Goodell and Co!!
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  • HawkWow wrote:You're right, other than Stevens, we were a very respectable group (and still got hosed). I mean no disresepct here, but using such logic is like saying, I got hit by a Kam truck (lol) while walking on the sidewalk, so from now on, I might as well walk on the freeway.

    I just think it's better to not rile these aholes. As you suggest, they have it in for us already. BTW, I think the teary-eyed retirement of "the face of the NFL", Jerome Bettis, playing his final game in his home town, played a role against us in XL. I could be wrong.


    I was posting just as you were writing this, didn't see your post first, and all I could recall, storyline-wise from XL was the "win a title for the Bus" angle the media played. So two of us independently mention that as the dominant media storyline going into Super Bowl XL. ESPN's writeup of the game starts like this... "The Pittsburgh Steelers were the overwhelming sentimental Super Bowl XL favorites, both here and in Las Vegas, but for better than three quarters, the Seattle Seahawks had Pittsburgh engaged in a serious football game." The reason Seattle lost the game... lack of compelling storylines to counter the "Win one for the Bus" angle.

    OK, not the real reason Seattle *lost* the XL game, but the reason we got crappy reffing that contributed. The real reason for the XL loss was lack of depth in the defensive backfield, and the 3rd-string man-off-the-street Free Safety Etric Pruitt who got burned for the Steelers two big-play touchdowns, the Willie Parker run, and the Antwaan Randle-El pass for a TD. Yeah, both TDs, same dude burned. We got "Next man up" under Carroll, so that won't be happening. Second reason Seattle loses, Hass throws a bonehead pick in the Red Zone after the bogus holding penalty. We've got RW as our QB, and he would be very unlikely to make a play like that.

    But I digress. Sherman needs to keep talking and creating drama and interest, so the Seattle storylines are at least as interesting and compelling as their opponent's. The other smart thing the 'Hawks could do, if they make the Super Bowl, would be to find a way to independently trot out Holmgren, where he isn't under team employ, to talk about the biased and poor officiating in XL, and raise the storyline, "will Seattle get an even break from the officials in this Super Bowl." We found out in XL that the NFL has more in common with WWE than we thought. So let's have multiple interesting storylines.
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  • This is what he actually said. Its on NBC Sports.com. When asked about his opinion on winning his appeal? Word for word.

    "I'm incredibly optimistic. They broke rules that you can't break. And ummm unless they just you know say they can break rules and you know suspend me than we should be fine."
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  • olyfan63 wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:Sherman needs to keep talking and creating drama and interest, so the Seattle storylines are at least as interesting and compelling as their opponent's. The other smart thing the 'Hawks could do, if they make the Super Bowl, would be to find a way to independently trot out Holmgren, where he isn't under team employ, to talk about the biased and poor officiating in XL, and raise the storyline, "will Seattle get an even break from the officials in this Super Bowl."


    That is a fascinating idea. Just take it to 'em. Play the media game and play it so well the league has reason to drum us up the way they did Bettis. Only our storyline is the beginning of something big rather than the end of a career. Very clever.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:I cant believe Pehawk's too much of a puss to fly out to New Jersey. Someone take away his man card.


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  • HawkWow wrote:
    Sherm is arguably my favorite player. Believe me, I want to be wrong, but aside from all of the "that's just him" commentary here, how would you explain, or rationalise his comment "the league can break rules but players can't"? (para-phrased). That is the 'in the heat of the moment, eurphoric from the win' comment that is the source of my uncertainty. How does that translate to..."I did nothing wrong"?


    Ok what he really said was "they might SAY they can break the rules and players can't and still suspend me, but I'm optimistic. They broke the rules...etc etc etc..."
    That might not be 100% exactly right but its way closer the tone than what you've been implying.
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  • Any news on when is the most likely time we will hear the outcome of his appeal?
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  • rastahawk wrote:The thing that worries me the most is that regardless of the arguments the league doesn't really care. Has any case involving banned substances ruled in favor of the defendant?


    Yes there was a player on the Bears whose suspension was overturned just this year.
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  • HawkAroundTheClock wrote:
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    HawkWow wrote:Sherman needs to keep talking and creating drama and interest, so the Seattle storylines are at least as interesting and compelling as their opponent's. The other smart thing the 'Hawks could do, if they make the Super Bowl, would be to find a way to independently trot out Holmgren, where he isn't under team employ, to talk about the biased and poor officiating in XL, and raise the storyline, "will Seattle get an even break from the officials in this Super Bowl."


    That is a fascinating idea. Just take it to 'em. Play the media game and play it so well the league has reason to drum us up the way they did Bettis. Only our storyline is the beginning of something big rather than the end of a career. Very clever.


    Your comment got me started down this track, when you pointed out that we toed the line, nice boys with good manners for Super Bowl XL, and then we got JOBBED in the big game. If acting like nice boys and minding our manners just got us screwed before, as you pointed out, why do it again??!! From there, connecting some dots, the NFL is an ENTERTAINMENT *product*, it's all about money and ratings, etc., and then viewing the competition, "Reality" TV, it becomes apparent the formula for success there is creating drama and emotional engagement among the viewership. When Seattle makes the Super Bowl again, we need to make sure a major storyline is "will Seattle get an even break from the refs this time", "is the NFL an honest product or is it WWE in helmets", etc. Along with storylines of "Richard Sherman, wrongly-accused underdog hero, or cheating villain scum?" Quick, name 3 players from the Detroit Lions. Along with Megatron and Stafford, was Suh in the first 3? We will watch, hoping to see the villain get his comeuppance. The more emotionally compelling, interesting storylines associated with the Seahawks, the better the chances the NFL doesn't try to influence the game outcomes in the name of TV ratings and dollars. The "Can Seattle get an even break from the refs this time?" storyline, if we were able to get national media to push it a little, could also have the effect of embarrassing the NFL into ensuring the next Super Bowl game involving the Seahawks is officiated competently and fairly.

    Who knew it was the Sh--- er, Pittsburgh PR staff that was really responsible for their Super Bowl XL "victory" by getting the media hooked into the "Win a title for the Bus" storyline? By implication, the Seattle PR staff is partly responsible for allowing this to happen, an absence of compelling Seattle storylines (possibly influenced by Holmgren) that led to the refs subconsciously looking for ways to help the "sentimental favorite" win. So the Seahawks PR and media staff needs to set a tone that we will never allow a Super Bowl opponent to hijack the storyline again!! Always compete!! Even (especially?) in the team's PR and Media office!!
    Steve2222 wrote: "I'm going to call a spade a spade. This is a 9 win team who is going to need luck getting into playoffs."
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  • Yep. Clearly there's no evidence that anything is fixed, etc. etc., but I hear ya. It seems like most SB winners in recent memory have had a disproportionate amount of 'feel good' or attention-getting storylines leading up to the big game. Whether it's just a perception or not, the sports entertainment aspect you mention is undeniable. More viewers = more money, no way around that. So the more interesting our story, the more media attention, the better the ratings, and the better our chance of getting a fair shake. Sounds good.
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