hawksfan515 wrote:No one really copied the other. That would just be stupid, and there is clearly different philosophies.
That said, we clearly started first. Not sure how they can argue they started first, as Pete Carroll was hired one year before Harbaugh.
Very simply. Mike Singletary AND Mike Nolan *tried
* but failed to build the kind of team the 49ers and Seahawks have. However, they didn't fail at either the defense or the OL-line, or the rest of the offense. Their only failure was at QB. But in establishing the mold, it was here before Harbaugh.
Harbaugh just improved the QB position and varied the offensive scheme. The type of team we are, however, was set in motion AT LEAST by 2008, and really, the 49ers had been trying to do it since Mike Nolan in 2005. They just failed repeatedly at it, and it all came back to the quarterback position.
EDIT- But to note, Mike Nolan had blatantly admitted to wanting to copy the Steelers and Ravens, the tough, physical teams that were in the hunt every year. So, technically, you could argue that both the Seahawks and the 49ers are trying to copy the Steelers and Ravens. Or you could just say that they are both trying to copy the mold of a physical team that can suffocate an offense on defense and pound a defense to submission on offense with balance, but still throw in some flash. The truth is for the 49ers, however, that when it all began with Nolan, it was blatantly admitted that the teams they were trying to emulate were the Steelers/Ravens (and it is no coincidence that Nolan came from Baltimore, and more, so did Mike Singletary).
BASF wrote:Let me ask a bit different question of the Niners fans: how is the Harbaugh philosophy for the team different than the Singletary philosophy of the team? The team still has the O-Line (a little retooling is standard in the NFL) and running game from the Singletary era. They are still running the 3-4 defense that Singletary used. Harbaugh is simply a better coach and has gotten better execution out of the team, but it's not like they revamped everything.
Right. But it goes back even further, all the way to Nolan. Nolan had the vision from the start, but didn't have the skill, particularly on offense. What Harbaugh has brought is his technical expertise at the quarterback position, and his skill in evaluating talented offensive staff. The teams that were copied was the Ravens and the Steelers, according to Nolan, who basically said as much around the time he began...