| Author |
Message |
|
schkoot
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:04 pm |
|
| NET Practice Squad |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:27 pm Posts: 74
|
|
Not Wilson yet. Maybe someday...
Krieg was my childhood idol and will be tough to unseat. Not impossible though.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Bigpumpkin
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:06 pm |
|
| *GOLD SUPPORTER* |
 |
 |
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:13 pm Posts: 3462 Location: Puyallup, WA USA
|
Tech Worlds wrote: As a first year player Wilson is ten times better than Hasslebeck was as a first year player.
As time goes on Wilson will continue to prove to be the better player.
Wilson makes others better. Hasselbeck didn't. Is it fair to compare a rookie to Hass in 2005 and 2007? Wilson has a unique attitude that I have not seen in any Seahawk Rookie! The "deal" will be sealed if he can "win out" this year.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Happypuppy
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:44 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:40 pm Posts: 1042
|
|
Until its over I will reserve comment. We have had some players with really good first year play. Hass was good but Krieg , Mier had really good years, his rookie year was as good as Wilson. One of the most entertaining single games I saw the Hawks play was against KC and Moon was the QB.
Last edited by Happypuppy on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
kearly
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:44 pm |
|
| * Mr Random Thought * |
 |
 |
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:44 am Posts: 7225
|
|
Based on the eyeball test, I have to go with Wilson. This is the most efficient offense Seattle has ever had. Fewer big plays, but more 10+ play drives. At least that's what it feels like. Even Hasselbeck at his best would have a facepalm worthy game every 5th game. Since becoming fully acclimated, Wilson just doesn't have those.
If Pete had trusted Wilson with the offense much sooner, this might not be a discussion worth having. Since week 6 or so Wilson has basically been Aaron Rodgers, if Aaron Rodgers had read option in his tool kit.
_________________  "I believe there’s merit to the idea that once something in life becomes conventional, it’s no longer the safest path to success." -Matt Waldman "If everyone's thinking alike, no one's thinking." -Bill Walsh
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
12thManHawkFan
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:57 pm |
|
| NET Bench Warmer |
 |
Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:42 am Posts: 38
|
|
I was watching the Dan Patrick show tonight, and he's got Rich Eisen on the line. They are chatting about NFL awards and get to the ROY candidates. Turns out Rich thinks Russell Wilson will win with the way things are going and then goes on to say, and not only say but try to persuade Dan Patrick into understanding, why he thinks the Seahawks are 100% going to the SuperBowl this year.
Thought I would share in case any missed it, the buzz going around is pretty exciting, I hope this weekend ends the way I'm expecting it to man!! Go Seahawks!
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Bakergirl
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:41 am |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:13 pm Posts: 3160 Location: Knee deep in enemy territory.
|
Until Wilson sees a super bowl...I'm gonna have to side with 2005 Matt Hasslebeck. No one else has even sniffed a ring...yet. 
_________________ “There’s no reason, with Mr. Allen and the fan base here and the stadium, that this can’t be a stable, long-term winning organization.” - John Schneider
Last edited by Bakergirl on Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
MrCarey
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:44 am |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:16 pm Posts: 1482
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
scutterhawk
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:10 am |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:48 pm Posts: 2078
|
SacHawk2.0 wrote: I have yet to see any inkling of "Spazzlebeck" tendencies with RW. Just sayin' In all fairness though, shouldn't RW's record be compared to Hasselbecks first years record with the Seahawks?
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Tech Worlds
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:45 am |
|
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:40 am Posts: 6897 Location: Granite Falls, WA
|
scutterhawk wrote: SacHawk2.0 wrote: I have yet to see any inkling of "Spazzlebeck" tendencies with RW. Just sayin' In all fairness though, shouldn't RW's record be compared to Hasselbecks first years record with the Seahawks? Yes and Wilson absolutely blows him out of the water.
_________________ 
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Pstark3
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:19 am |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:08 pm Posts: 1305 Location: Bellevue
|
|
Matty H was my idol, but I dont get how anyone can say him.. I mean in 05 he had that monster of a running game, how could he not be successful? not to mention that protection. Wilson really has none of that
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Largent80
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:21 am |
|
| NET Pro Bowler |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:38 pm Posts: 16400 Location: SoCal
|
|
I'm not reading the posts in this thread but I would guess the majority of them say that Matt got us to the SB, therefore 2005 makes his the best.
I think Wilsons first year is better. He was supposed to be the backup and all he has done is become a sensation. It took Hass years to be what Wilson is now.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
FortWorthSeahawk
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:00 am |
|
| USAF BadAss |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:24 am Posts: 953 Location: Charlottesville, VA
|
|
I think people are trying to compare rookie seasons between the two; the post asks the best QB season ever....not best season by a rookie. Wilson will be better by far, but I don't think he's had the best season ever (as of yet).
_________________ Kam Chancellor: The Chancellor of Defense Bruce Irvin: BruceMode Tharold Simon: Humble Thug
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
MidwestHawker
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:01 am |
|
| NET Starter |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:26 am Posts: 388 Location: Indianapolis
|
scutterhawk wrote: SacHawk2.0 wrote: I have yet to see any inkling of "Spazzlebeck" tendencies with RW. Just sayin' In all fairness though, shouldn't RW's record be compared to Hasselbecks first years record with the Seahawks? When the question is whether this is the best season ever for a Seahawks QB, no of course not.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
SharkHawk
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:23 am |
|
| * NET Alumni * |
 |
 |
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:47 am Posts: 3414
|
Largent80 wrote: I'm not reading the posts in this thread but I would guess the majority of them say that Matt got us to the SB, therefore 2005 makes his the best.
I think Wilsons first year is better. He was supposed to be the backup and all he has done is become a sensation. It took Hass years to be what Wilson is now. Most are saying 2007 was Hass's best year. He had to do everything that year, as he had no real line, and no running game. It was hurry up, quick hitters, and getting beaten into the turf with zero support. Ruskell was worse at finding offensive lineman than Jack Z. is at finding hitters.
_________________  R.I.P. Dad. I miss you. You will never be forgotten 1/12/39 - 8/7/08
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
BASF
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:13 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:07 pm Posts: 1149
|
themunn wrote: It's a tough one That said, New England, Detroit, Miami, Chicago x 2, I don't ever remember Hasselbeck driving down the field for a go-ahead TD with <5 minutes left 5 times in a single season (even if 3 of those leads were lost or tied in the end), nor do I ever remember a Hasselbeck-led team putting up 50 points in a single game, let alone 2 in a season (even if Wilson was not the major factor in the Arizona game). Hass had 5 game winning drives (four of them come from behind victories) in 2006 alone. The problem I see with using the term ever regarding quarterbacks is the difference in the game during eras. The passing game is so much easier now then it was during Zorn and Krieg's playing days. Back then you could mug a WR down the field compared to what they allow nowadays. Players complain about how physical Sherman and Browner are, but they wouldn't be considered all that physical during the 70's and 80's. Also to be considered for the amount of INT's that Zorn threw, there were a lot of DB's using Stickum legally before it was banned in 1981. There were definitely cases of our AFC West opponents still using it after that. My answer to the question is no, that distinction belongs to Hasselbeck in 07. However, I fully expect that next season the answer will be absolutely.
_________________ 
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
hawksfan515
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:40 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:52 pm Posts: 5194 Location: Battle Ground, Washington
|
|
Anyone's mind changed after Wilson's 4 TD performance?
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Starrman44
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:56 pm |
|
| NET Starter |
 |
 |
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:35 pm Posts: 452 Location: Canby, OR
|
|
Yep, my mind has. It was a toss-up to me, considering that Hass had a little better stats (TDs/Ints/yards), but RW compensated with rushing yards and those 3 rushing TD's. Last nights game tipped the scales, IMO.
I am a huge Matt H fan. He's been my wife's favorite player. I think she's starting to like Wilson even more than Matt.
I definitely believe (barring 5 int's next game, which I don't see happening) that Wilson has had the best season ever for a Seahawk QB.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
NoChops
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:59 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:21 pm Posts: 1121
|
hawksfan515 wrote: Anyone's mind changed after Wilson's 4 TD performance? yep. you can put number three in the rafters right now.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Kelly.Orr
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:00 pm |
|
| NET Starter |
 |
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:37 pm Posts: 311
|
therealjohncarlson wrote: Hass put up way more yards, so gotta give it to him. Russ will start having bigger games next year though I didn't realize yards were more important than TDs. Gotta go with Wilson based on that alone. Not to mention just what he does with his legs. I won't go into anything else because i do not think yards are everything. What matters is putting up points on that scoreboard he has put up more than Hass.
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
rainger
|
Post subject: Re: Simple Q. Is Wilsons season the best ever for a Seahawk QB? Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:02 pm |
|
| NET Veteran |
 |
 |
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 1184 Location: Victoria BC
|
|
Hass was great but his 2005 season was against all losing teams. He only played 4 games against winning teams that year and only 1 top team D. I will always love the 2005 season because we got to the SB and we had 13 wins but:
Wilson has done what he has done against way better compition and no way was Hass able to do what RW does. It is still early because we are comparing 1 year vs a QB that is in the hearts of Fans because he was with theam for a long time.
I believe RW is better and if you ask this question in 3 years it will be near 100 percent RW.
_________________ Seahawks + PC/JS + Russell Wilson + Jesse Williams = Superbowl
|
|
 |
|
 |
|
Users browsing this forum: 12evanf, Bill Assumpcao, BlueTalon, Brahn, CFraychineaud, Google [Bot], HawKnPeppa, NinerLifer, NM-Hawk, renofox, Stonehawk, streets24, Throwdown, TwilightError and 109 guests |
| |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
 |