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 Post subject: In my opinion, Russell can win ROY this week.
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If Russell puts up monster numbers against the vaunted 49er defense and the Seahawks soundly beat the 49ers at home, I think all debate about ROY will be over. I really think this is his chance to distance himself from the rest of the ROY contenders.

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I want to agree, I still think people will say RGIII will win it regardless of how he plays. And chances are he will. But my vote goes to RW all the way!


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I don't think the debate would be over, depends on what Luck and RG3 do as well. But yeah it'd definitely increase Wilson's chances.

Deep down if all things are equal (stats, wins, etc), I do think Wilson will win ROY. Even the most hardened biased voter would be remiss to not love Wilson's underdog story.

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Agree to a point. He'll gain a lot of traction if that happens, but there are a certain contingent of voters who have already made up their minds about Luck or RGIII, and probably did so after the first couple of games.

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I would agree, but it would have to be a MONSTER game, like 65-70% completions and 3 TDs or something like that.

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I think the voters have already picked RGIII. Just my opinion.

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Over? No. Gives him a better shot though.


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Voters of these things aren't the smartest people anyways. Especially if the Redskins win their division, some will point to that to justify their vote.


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Voters of these things aren't the smartest people anyways. Especially if the Redskins win their division, some will point to that to justify their vote.

Fact. Same reason Justin Smith didn't get the props he should have last year. But like Wilson, I suspect Smith just uses it as fuel.

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agree, but this game is about special teams and defense, and..... HOLDING ON TO THE BALL!!!

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niners bread and butter is taking the ball away!!! remove that factor from the equation and you relegate them to harmless lil' puppy dogs..

um Kappernick and Crabtree vs Seattle's defense? seriously? lol

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niners bread and butter is taking the ball away!!! remove that factor from the equation and you relegate them to harmless lil' puppy dogs..

um Kappernick and Crabtree vs Seattle's defense? seriously? lol


C'mon man, we could be without Sherman, Thurmond, Trufant and Lane this week (as well Browner).

On topic, I've given it some thought, and as much as I love Russell, and wouldn't swap him for any other QB, RGIII has probably edged it. I think Russell is, and will reinforce himself as the better QB in the future, but RGIII's been balling all season. Russell started a little too late, although that's probably Pete etc.'s fault for holding him back. IMO Luck shouldn't really be in the conversation, he's impressed me nowhere near as much.

When does ROY get decided? cause of course this scenario changes depending on how far Russell takes us into the play-offs.


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niners bread and butter is taking the ball away!!! remove that factor from the equation and you relegate them to harmless lil' puppy dogs..

um Kappernick and Crabtree vs Seattle's defense? seriously? lol


C'mon man, we could be without Sherman, Thurmond, Trufant and Lane this week (as well Browner).

On topic, I've given it some thought, and as much as I love Russell, and wouldn't swap him for any other QB, RGIII has probably edged it. I think Russell is, and will reinforce himself as the better QB in the future, but RGIII's been balling all season. Russell started a little too late, although that's probably Pete etc.'s fault for holding him back. IMO Luck shouldn't really be in the conversation, he's impressed me nowhere near as much.

When does ROY get decided? cause of course this scenario changes depending on how far Russell takes us into the play-offs.


Beyond remote chance that Sherman doesn't play. And why would we be without Lane?

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I think Russell can nab ROY with some good numbers and a late game winning drive, ala Bears game. C'mon Russell!


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Scottemojo wrote:
NorCal wrote:
Voters of these things aren't the smartest people anyways. Especially if the Redskins win their division, some will point to that to justify their vote.

Fact. Same reason Justin Smith didn't get the props he should have last year. But like Wilson, I suspect Smith just uses it as fuel.


Justin Smith was a rookie 11 years ago, so not winning the ROY award last season probably doesn't add anything to his game.
Aldon on the other hand... :sarcasm_off:


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NorCal wrote:
Voters of these things aren't the smartest people anyways. Especially if the Redskins win their division, some will point to that to justify their vote.


I'm scared. A smart 49er fan. :lol:

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rideaducati wrote:
Scottemojo wrote:
NorCal wrote:
Voters of these things aren't the smartest people anyways. Especially if the Redskins win their division, some will point to that to justify their vote.

Fact. Same reason Justin Smith didn't get the props he should have last year. But like Wilson, I suspect Smith just uses it as fuel.


Justin Smith was a rookie 11 years ago, so not winning the ROY award last season probably doesn't add anything to his game.
Aldon on the other hand... :sarcasm_off:


Ask questions, it will make you smarter. Props is what I said, not DROY. Justin should have been the Defensive player of the year last year, but as a DT his stats weren't that good. Besides, Aldon Smith without Justin Smith is just another guy statistically.

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Russell is distinctly better than RG3 in an aspect of his game that is severely underrated and can single-handedly influence the direction in which his career will go. He knows when to slide and how to avoid contact. RG3 has already been injured how many times this year from scrambling and taking a huge shot?


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Clayton expressed his opinion last week on ESPN710.

He's voting for Luck because of the Colts' W/L record turnaround, which he attributes solely to Andrew Luck.

Thought that you guys ought to know.

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A great reporter does not a great analyst make. I don't really hold it against Clayton though. He's old school. Probably took a lot of arm twisting to get him to use the internet.


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