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 Post subject: Re: Who would you rather play? Kaepernick or Alex Smith?
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Very tough call, I think Harbaugh made the right call as Kap is the future. Everyone knows what Smith can do, he was efficient but not a real threat. Kap on the other hand brings more big plays but more turnovers and inexperience. I think both would have trouble next Sunday Night but I think after seeing the issues Kap had wiht fumbling and trowing some very bad deep balls I'd rather face him right now. As someone stated before the Seahawks weakness is short to intermediate and crossing routes. Smith is probably better at those than Kap is so in particular Smith matches up better against our style of defense. Next year after Kap has already tasted the SEA VS SF rivalry and played a game at the CLINK he will be scary.

I fully expect Sunday to be a blood bath. NFC West has overtaken the AFC North for the toughest division in football. With two Super young talents in Wilson and Kap this rivalry is only getting better. I'm just glad the Hawks are a younger team so as soon as SF starts fading we can get some easy Division titles again.


That was actually a pretty well reasoned post, though I still prefer Kaepernick to start (as a 49ers fan).

One thing that's really making me nervous, though, is Justin Smith being hurt. That man is a BEAST. He would not have left the game unless his elbow was reaaaallly effed up. That's the type of player that he is. A huge, huge loss of the team to have him out for a game.

Hopefully my suspicions will be wrong and he plays.


Did he hurt the arm that he uses to hold the Tackle that is assigned to block Aldon Smith? If so, that is a significant loss for SF.

As far as Kaepernick, he made some throws on Sunday that an above average secondary would have made him pay for. He seems like he goes through his progressions well, but still makes some odd decisions while doing it.


Oh, please. Now I really hope he starts just so I can see this nonsense again.


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I'd rather see Kap. He's a bit of a hot commodity right now but to me he has a gimmicky feel. At least while he settles into his long term identity. Smith while he has his moments can also be very effective. He is afterall the more cerebreal of the two. I feel like if Kap starts making mistakes he is more likely of the two to spiral out of control because of his inexperience.

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Being that we have little to no pass rush, having Kaep run towards us can only benefit us, no? J/k, but we do need to figure out how to get a pass rush against the Niners outstanding offensive line.


Wha?? Our offensive line is horrible. They played well against the Patriots, though.

Man, you guys are spoiled if you think your line is horrible.


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Being that we have little to no pass rush, having Kaep run towards us can only benefit us, no? J/k, but we do need to figure out how to get a pass rush against the Niners outstanding offensive line.


Wha?? Our offensive line is horrible. They played well against the Patriots, though.


Horrible? I don't think so.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

I know stats don't tell the whole story, but even when we played you earlier in the year the Niners o-line dominated.

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Being that we have little to no pass rush, having Kaep run towards us can only benefit us, no? J/k, but we do need to figure out how to get a pass rush against the Niners outstanding offensive line.


Wha?? Our offensive line is horrible. They played well against the Patriots, though.


Horrible? I don't think so.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

I know stats don't tell the whole story, but even when we played you earlier in the year the Niners o-line dominated.


I'm talking about pass protection. We're one of the worst in the league. It's a little better now since kaepernick is more mobile.


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Either. At this point we know that Smith can win here or at home against the Seahawks, so it isn't like playing a mediocre 2nd string QB. He was the starter for a team that was a couple of special teams fumbles from the Superbowl.

Kaepernick has shown he can win in a historically challenging road game and in prime time games. He is more a wildcard to the Seahawks, since they haven't had extensive experience against him. Will be interesting to see how the 9ers decide to attack the Seahawks deep and with whom. Usually Davis is giving the team fits but now Crabtree and even Moss are getting shots and that I think is due to Kaep's elevation to starter.

So I would rather play Smith if playing a close game at home is the best chance to win. Kaep, if it is to be a high-flying shoot-out that has the country raving about the matchup.

So for entertainment value, Kaep. Not because I think it guarantees a win. Just because it could be a fun game to watch for all.

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Kap personally. We beat Cam already this year, and for some reason struggle against Smith so I'd rather go with something the Seahawks defense has somewhat seen already and had success against.


You didn't struggle against Smith at all last time. Our Defense won that game.


your defense didn't beat us, our offenseive struggles and dropped balls beat us... to answer the question, smith all day every sunday.

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If the game was in SF I'd rather play Smith, but since it's our home game I'd rather play Kaepernick........because he's the one of the two QB's that's more likely to make mistakes in front of a hostile crowd.

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I have stated this elsewhere but will repeat for the OP since you asked :) part of this was in an earlier reply

Smith calmly moved across the field in the last game. It was a mix of short passes and Gore running the ball. Seattle hardly had the ball in the second half as we couldn't get SF off the field. It drained defenses and when the Seattle offense failed to get a first down right away it was a huge deal as it was another 7-10 minutes before they saw the ball again (20-30 minutes real time lol). That is not good for either offense or defense. It is a great way to play football when the game is close or you have the lead

Kap can score quickly - I can live with quick 7 points. It allows our offense back out there to stay in rythm and it gets the defense off the field. The defense will have more opportunities for picking off the long ball or hitting WR's just catching it in the secondary and hoping the ball will come loose. I think it is more of the future of the NFL and is great for when you are down / want to put up quick points to get a lead. It is not optimal when you have a lead by 2 or 3 td's (see NE game as example....)

Now on top of this you add a very loud environment and hopefully two very good CBs playing on Sunday night for the Seahawks. I hope we can stack the box to stop the run and play man to man in the secondary and still get the picks. I think Alex Smith would pick us apart over the middle where we have been weak in several games this year.

I said it before the NE game - I was hoping for a SF CLOSE loss. Only for the reason that I think Kap is better for the Hawks than Smith is and I wanted a SF loss that wouldn't be blamed on Kap. Sticking with that pick and happy we get to see Kap. Doesn't mean he won't torch us - just means I think we are better suited for his kind of game


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Kaepernick is the wildcard. For either bad or good. Against the Rams and Dolphins, he had a total of 1 TD. (rushing). Those are good defenses and he was effectively shut down. Averaging 196 yards/gm. Even against the Saints the offense only managed 17 points-- they won thanks to 2 pick 6's.

He's thrown for a mere 7 TD's in his 6 games he's started or played the majority of the game. 4of which came against a horrific PAT's passing defense. 6 of his 7 TD's have come against just 2 teams. (Pats on road, Bears @ Home).

The question is what trend is most relavent? Is it the feast of the PATs game and he going to be throwing several TD's from here on out, or is it the famine of the STL and MIA games?

Then you've got the Seahawks run defense that played Cam Newton brilliantly, but has since struggled at times against good backs. Can they get back to that CAR level of play. On the whole Kaepernick presents to me the greatest swing both positively and negatively. Whereas Smith doesn't make mistakes and if they don't make mistakes than it's hard to come out on top.


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Horrible? Maybe I'm watching a different team, the Niners o-line is damn good. Unfortunately

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One thing that's really making me nervous, though, is Justin Smith being hurt. That man is a BEAST. He would not have left the game unless his elbow was reaaaallly effed up. That's the type of player that he is. A huge, huge loss of the team to have him out for a game.

Hopefully my suspicions will be wrong and he plays.


Did he hurt the arm that he uses to hold the Tackle that is assigned to block Aldon Smith? If so, that is a significant loss for SF.

As far as Kaepernick, he made some throws on Sunday that an above average secondary would have made him pay for. He seems like he goes through his progressions well, but still makes some odd decisions while doing it.


Oh, please. Now I really hope he starts just so I can see this nonsense again.


I knew that would get your rainbow panties in a bunch.

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Kaepernick is the wildcard. For either bad or good. Against the Rams and Dolphins, he had a total of 1 TD. (rushing). Those are good defenses and he was effectively shut down. Averaging 196 yards/gm. Even against the Saints the offense only managed 17 points-- they won thanks to 2 pick 6's.

He's thrown for a mere 7 TD's in his 6 games he's started or played the majority of the game. 4of which came against a horrific PAT's passing defense. 6 of his 7 TD's have come against just 2 teams. (Pats on road, Bears @ Home).

The question is what trend is most relavent? Is it the feast of the PATs game and he going to be throwing several TD's from here on out, or is it the famine of the STL and MIA games?

Then you've got the Seahawks run defense that played Cam Newton brilliantly, but has since struggled at times against good backs. Can they get back to that CAR level of play. On the whole Kaepernick presents to me the greatest swing both positively and negatively. Whereas Smith doesn't make mistakes and if they don't make mistakes than it's hard to come out on top.


Touchdown throws (as an isolated statistic) is overrated. If a QB drives the team 80 yards and the OC calls for the RB to run it in, same result. When already inside the 10 the difference between a TD throw and a running TD isn't really a meaningful way to assess a QB. Deep TD passes, on the other hand, are a different matter.


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Being that we have little to no pass rush, having Kaep run towards us can only benefit us, no? J/k, but we do need to figure out how to get a pass rush against the Niners outstanding offensive line.


Wha?? Our offensive line is horrible. They played well against the Patriots, though.


You honestly think the 49ers have a horrible offensive line? Wow.

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Kaepernick all day everyday. Why? Simple, because Kaepernick is the Niners future. I think either qb could start and win or start and lose, but when I play our division rivals, I want to beat their "A" team, and Kaep is part of the Niners "A" team now and for the future.

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Kap personally. We beat Cam already this year, and for some reason struggle against Smith so I'd rather go with something the Seahawks defense has somewhat seen already and had success against.


You didn't struggle against Smith at all last time. Our Defense won that game.


your defense didn't beat us, our offenseive struggles and dropped balls beat us... to answer the question, smith all day every sunday.


Right. Your offense put a whopping 6 points on the board and it had nothing to do with the Niners D.

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Being that we have little to no pass rush, having Kaep run towards us can only benefit us, no? J/k, but we do need to figure out how to get a pass rush against the Niners outstanding offensive line.


Wha?? Our offensive line is horrible. They played well against the Patriots, though.


You honestly think the 49ers have a horrible offensive line? Wow.


In terms of pass protection, yes. Absolutely.


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Its a tough call. Kaep is more dynamic, but I also have a feeling he's just a bunch of turnovers waiting to happen. Smith is more steady and under control, but doesnt deliver the big play potential that Kaep does (but also highly capable of turnovers).

Being that the game is in Seattle and the 12th man is going to be in full roar I think i'd rather see the youngster who's only started a few games.

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USArmyParatrooper, you must be really nervous about this game. Why else would you come to a hawks forum. Enjoy getting blown out this week. You will be lucky to stay within 20.

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In terms of pass protection, yes. Absolutely.


Poor pass protection doesn't exclusively mean the line is "horrible". They are excellent in run blocking. You have invested a lot of draft capital and in free agency to build that line - I think most teams would trade for your line in a blink of an eye.

I'm not even sure I would agree you have poor pass protection. I think you might be a little spoiled by how good your team is. :th2thumbs:

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USArmyParatrooper, you must be really nervous about this game. Why else would you come to a hawks forum. Enjoy getting blown out this week. You will be lucky to stay within 20.


lol

Will someone please sing me another song about 49ers fans who think the Seahawks are a guaranteed win? Anyone? Beuler?

I am a little nervous about the game because I respect the Seahawks. But seriously, you have to be a real knuckle dragger to think you're going to run the score against the 49ers defense.


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In terms of pass protection, yes. Absolutely.


Poor pass protection doesn't exclusively mean the line is "horrible". They are excellent in run blocking. You have invested a lot of draft capital and in free agency to build that line - I think most teams would trade for your line in a blink of an eye.

I'm not even sure I would agree you have poor pass protection. I think you might be a little spoiled by how good your team is. :th2thumbs:


If I'm not mistaken, until Kaepernick came in we took the most sacks in the league. Keapernick is a lot more illusive, so I'm sure that went down some. The run blocking is very good, so I'll give you that.


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You know good D's force fumbles, right?


Too bad they didn't force any fumbles...we dropped wide open passes that would have likely gone for six...see Turbin, Robert and Tate, Golden for reference.


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You know good D's force fumbles, right?


Too bad they didn't force any fumbles...we dropped wide open passes that would have likely gone for six...see Turbin, Robert and Tate, Golden for reference.


Yep. Huge drop by Tate on the 3rd down slant. Moore dropped what would have been a long gainer down the sideline. Also, Obo had the long catch (30+ yds) but stumbled and it would have gone for a lot more.

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Too bad they didn't force any fumbles...we dropped wide open passes that would have likely gone for six...see Turbin, Robert and Tate, Golden for reference.


Yep. Huge drop by Tate on the 3rd down slant. Moore dropped what would have been a long gainer down the sideline. Also, Obo had the long catch (30+ yds) but stumbled and it would have gone for a lot more.


Dropped passes are a part of the game. I couldn't watch the Niners - Seahawks game but I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners had dropped passes of their own.

Hopefully Carroll has a little respect for the Niners D as some of you seem to. But unfortunately he's not stupid.

But back to the point, the 49ers defense beat the Hawks. Not Alex Smith.


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Dropped passes are a part of the game. I couldn't watch the Niners - Seahawks game but I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners had dropped passes of their own.

Hopefully Carroll has a little respect for the Niners D as some of you seem to. But unfortunately he's not stupid.

But back to the point, the 49ers defense beat the Hawks. Not Alex Smith.


You didn't even watch the game so you really shouldn't be commenting on it. Seattle had the most drops they've had all year vs SF. They literally "dropped" that game away. Turbin dropped a wheel route with nobody near him, Tate dropped open looks with NOBODY NEAR HIM. Young team nerves got the better of Seattle and Gore gashed our D all game long on traps and dives and kept our Offense off the field and unable to overcome our early mistakes. Your D would have looked like crap if our hands didn't look worse.


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Dropped passes are a part of the game. I couldn't watch the Niners - Seahawks game but I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners had dropped passes of their own.

Hopefully Carroll has a little respect for the Niners D as some of you seem to. But unfortunately he's not stupid.

But back to the point, the 49ers defense beat the Hawks. Not Alex Smith.


You didn't see the game, that's the problem. Even the commentators were saying that "the story of this game, if the Seahawks lose, will be the dropped passes". They were HUGE drops at critical times by WIDE OPEN receivers. At least 1 (Turbin's) would have been a TD for sure, and 1 (Tate's) would have been a 1st down close to FG range. One was a drop by Edwards in the end zone that would have been a tough catch but it was in his hands.

The 49ers D was beat on these plays, and the Hawks' players just could not make the plays for some reason.

I don't recall any drops by the 49ers in this game. If there were any, they were not critical drops.

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Too bad they didn't force any fumbles...we dropped wide open passes that would have likely gone for six...see Turbin, Robert and Tate, Golden for reference.




Dropped passes are a part of the game. I couldn't watch the Niners - Seahawks game but I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners had dropped passes of their own.

Hopefully Carroll has a little respect for the Niners D as some of you seem to. But unfortunately he's not stupid.

But back to the point, the 49ers defense beat the Hawks. Not Alex Smith.



Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.

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CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
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Too bad they didn't force any fumbles...we dropped wide open passes that would have likely gone for six...see Turbin, Robert and Tate, Golden for reference.




Dropped passes are a part of the game. I couldn't watch the Niners - Seahawks game but I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners had dropped passes of their own.

Hopefully Carroll has a little respect for the Niners D as some of you seem to. But unfortunately he's not stupid.

But back to the point, the 49ers defense beat the Hawks. Not Alex Smith.



Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.

He isn't here for debate or discourse. So, talking out his ass about a nationally televised game he didn't watch is only natural. Eff him, it's the ignore list for him.

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Dropped passes are a part of the game. I couldn't watch the Niners - Seahawks game but I wouldn't be surprised if the Niners had dropped passes of their own.

Hopefully Carroll has a little respect for the Niners D as some of you seem to. But unfortunately he's not stupid.

But back to the point, the 49ers defense beat the Hawks. Not Alex Smith.



Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.

He isn't here for debate or discourse. So, talking out his ass about a nationally televised game he didn't watch is only natural. Eff him, it's the ignore list for him.


Yeah, I was attempting to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that that civility began to dissipate around post #10. Admitting that he was talking out of his ass was the straw that broke the camels back.

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Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.


Wilson thew for 39%, 0 TD, and 1 INT. Right, it's not that the Niners D beat the Seahawks.


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Yeah, I was attempting to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that that civility began to dissipate around post #10. Admitting that he was talking out of his ass was the straw that broke the camels back.


Whatever excuse you two lovebirds need. I show the same level of civility I'm shown.


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Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.


Wilson thew for 39%, 0 TD, and 1 INT. Right, it's not that the Niners D beat the Seahawks.


For a game you didn't even watch you sure do like to talk out your a$$. Here is a nice write up on how the drops killed us.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/seahawks-d ... --nfl.html

Oh and if it weren't for those drops, Wilsons numbers would have looked much better obviously.

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Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.


Wilson thew for 39%, 0 TD, and 1 INT. Right, it's not that the Niners D beat the Seahawks.


Factor in the drops (which you want to excuse, because it sandbags your drool for the 49ers defense) and it would have been 69% completion and a TD factored in. Wilson is outstanding, but he can't catch the passes he throws. Bringing up his stats in that game reveals your ignorance.

And you are kidding yourself if you think the October Russell Wilson you faced the first time is the same Russell Wilson you will see this week, especially in our House.

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Keapernick is a lot more illusive, t.


illusive we can deal with. Elusive is tougher for us.

Russell Wilson is pretty elusive so that should help us


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Keapernick is a lot more illusive, t.


illusive we can deal with. Elusive is tougher for us.

Russell Wilson is pretty elusive so that should help us

Adj. 1. illusive - based on or having the nature of an illusion; "illusive hopes of finding a better job"; "Secret activities offer presidents the alluring but often illusory promise that they can achieve foreign policy goals without the bothersome debate and open decision that are staples of democracy"
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unreal - lacking in reality or substance or genuineness; not corresponding to acknowledged facts or criteria; "ghosts and other unreal entities"; "unreal propaganda serving as news"

Great catch, AK. Turns out the trooper was spot on. hehe.

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Funny that you are so comfortable speaking of something of which you know nothing about.


Wilson thew for 39%, 0 TD, and 1 INT. Right, it's not that the Niners D beat the Seahawks.


Factor in the drops (which you want to excuse, because it sandbags your drool for the 49ers defense) and it would have been 69% completion and a TD factored in. Wilson is outstanding, but he can't catch the passes he throws. Bringing up his stats in that game reveals your ignorance.

And you are kidding yourself if you think the October Russell Wilson you faced the first time is the same Russell Wilson you will see this week, especially in our House.

You all better bring your A+ game. We'll be waiting.


Both sides played great defense and in a game that close both teams have should have could haves. The game by no means will be easy, but it's not so much "October Wilson" as it is "Cardinals and Bills" Wilson. I seem to remember out second string quarterback having record breaking games against both those teams.

I know Wilson is good, but the 49ers have beat quarterbacks who are almost as good. You know, guys like Rogers, Brady and Brees.


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This time, at home, Kaepernick. Smith can win in Seattle. He has several times.

Beyond this game, I'd rather play Smith.

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I know Wilson is good, but the 49ers have beat quarterbacks who are almost as good. You know, guys like Rogers, Brady and Brees.


and the Seahawks have beat quarterbacks that are much better than Kap. You know guys like Rogers, Brady, Newton heck I even put Cutler in there


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I know Wilson is good, but the 49ers have beat quarterbacks who are almost as good. You know, guys like Rogers, Brady and Brees.


and the Seahawks have beat quarterbacks that are much better than Kap. You know guys like Rogers, Brady, Newton heck I even put Cutler in there


Um... you can scratch Rogers from that list.


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I know Wilson is good, but the 49ers have beat quarterbacks who are almost as good. You know, guys like Rogers, Brady and Brees.


and the Seahawks have beat quarterbacks that are much better than Kap. You know guys like Rogers, Brady, Newton heck I even put Cutler in there


Um... you can scratch Rogers from that list.

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Um... you can scratch Rogers from that list.


Hey Junior, go watch that game again and see where, on the Packers' only TD drive of the game, on 3rd down, Kam Chancellor gets a 100% obviously bogus PI call against him that extends the drive, when the Packers should have punted. It led to their only TD. Fix officiating across the board in that game, and we win no matter what. Suck it.

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OK Mods, he's trolling now. Can we please?


Pointing out the replacement refs blew the game winning call with no time left isn't trolling.


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OK Mods, he's trolling now. Can we please?


Pointing out the replacement refs blew the game winning call with no time left isn't trolling.


http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-golden-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/


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Pointing out the replacement refs blew the game winning call with no time left isn't trolling.


Way to ignore my reply to you; and the way you replied with it is trolling.

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OK Mods, he's trolling now. Can we please?


Pointing out the replacement refs blew the game winning call with no time left isn't trolling.


http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-golden-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/


I'll take the official statement by the NFL after officials reviewed the play, thank you.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... -touchdown

While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game. It was not called and is not reviewable in instant replay.


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Pointing out the replacement refs blew the game winning call with no time left isn't trolling.


Way to ignore my reply to you; and the way you replied with it is trolling.


I opined that I wouldn't include Rogers to the list. Because you don't like my opinion doesn't de facto make it "trolling."

There are lots of bad calls that keep scoring drives alive, it happens. However, with 11 and a half minutes left in the game, even if that call wasn't blown, it was still anyone's game. No doubt the Seahawks may have won, but so might he Packers.

With no time left on the clock, giving the Seahawks an unearned touchdown was literally and irrevocably game changing.


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Yeah, I was attempting to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that that civility began to dissipate around post #10. Admitting that he was talking out of his ass was the straw that broke the camels back.


Whatever excuse you two lovebirds need. I show the same level of civility I'm shown.


You're in our house, in our main forum. You show us some respect or you can find somewhere else to post.

ALL the 9er fans showing up this week can consider that theyre warning.

edit: Now that I read the rest of the thread, he will have to find somewhere else to post

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Good work Absolut. This guys sole intention was to troll. He was just able to conceal it for about 10 posts. That may be a record for withholding, but I am glad that he is gone. My ignore list is growing too large.

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