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rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:33 am
  • I'm sure this has probably been asked before, but has a team ever had the OROY and DROY on the same team in the same year? Because it seems like Wilson and Wagner are both pretty high up the lists and could win the awards this year.
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:39 am
  • There is no doubt in my mind that even if Russ and Bobby finish the season with strong stats that they'll still be overlooked. The sports world wants Luck or RGIII even though Russ is performing just as well if not better. Not sure what the DROY race looks like. Who's the favorite there?
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:40 am
  • No clue if it has ever happened, but you can bet your ass that if Wilson and Wagner both played on an East Coast team, ESPN would be debating this very question as we speak.

    Unfortunately for us, it doesn't really fit in with the media narrative for Seahawk players to win awards like that, especially when there are mega-hyped players like Luck and RGIII, so I just don't see it happening. Because honestly, Wilson should be the frontrunner right now, but instead he is a distant 3rd. (hell, or even 4th - don't put it past the East coasters to talk up Doug Martin over Wilson)

    Wagner should probably be the front runner too. Who are you going to give it to over him? Keuchly? He has a few more tackles, but less impact plays. The only reason he has more tackles is because he plays on a worse defense that is on the field more. I'd give it to a leader on one of the best defenses (with big stats too) like Wagner. But again, Keuchly plays on an East coast team, so that alone should propel him to the top spot if there is any question.
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:42 am
  • RGIII doesn't even have to suit up, and he gets goooshed over by the media, luck is falling off ROY talks in my opinion, yesterday's performance didn't help his cause... i think it's between RW and RGIII...
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:48 am
  • Don't think so. We could get Coach of the year, executive of the year, OROY, and DROY though. All possible.
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:48 am
  • Honestly, what the Hawks really need, even more than a Sunday Night game, is a Monday night game. Can you imagine what Gruden would be saying about Wilson at this point in the season? That love fest alone would probably propel him into the OROY award
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:58 am
  • There are some great players on these lists, I can only hope RW, Wagner, and Irvin can become a player of this caliber

    Offense ROY
    1989 Barry Sanders Detroit Lions Running back
    1990 Emmitt Smith Dallas Cowboys Running back
    1991 Leonard Russell New England Patriots Running back
    1992 Carl Pickens Cincinnati Bengals Wide receiver
    1993 Jerome Bettis Los Angeles Rams Running back
    1994 Marshall Faulk Indianapolis Colts Running back
    1995 Curtis Martin New England Patriots Running back
    1996 Eddie George Houston Oilers Running back
    1997 Warrick Dunn Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running back
    1998 Randy Moss Minnesota Vikings Wide receiver
    1999 Edgerrin James Indianapolis Colts Running back
    2000 Mike Anderson Denver Broncos Running back
    2001 Anthony Thomas Chicago Bears Running back
    2002 Clinton Portis Denver Broncos Running back
    2003 Anquan Boldin Arizona Cardinals Wide receiver
    2004 Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback
    2005 Carnell "Cadillac" Williams Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running back
    2006 Vince Young Tennessee Titans Quarterback
    2007 Peterson ! Adrian Peterson Minnesota Vikings Running back
    2008 Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons Quarterback
    2009 Percy Harvin Minnesota Vikings Wide receiver
    2010 Sam Bradford St. Louis Rams Quarterback
    2011 Cam Newton Carolina Panthers Quarterback

    Defense ROY (Linebackers Bolded but alot of Hybrid DE/LB's won too)
    1998 Charles Woodson Oakland Raiders
    1999 Jevon Kearse Tennessee Titans
    2000 Brian Urlacher Chicago Bears 2001 Kendrell Bell Pittsburgh Steelers
    2002 Julius Peppers Carolina Panthers
    2003 Terrell Suggs Baltimore Ravens
    2004 Jonathan Vilma New York Jets
    2005 Shawne Merriman San Diego Chargers
    2006 DeMeco Ryans Houston Texans
    2007 Patrick Willis San Francisco 49ers
    2008 Jerod Mayo New England Patriots
    2009 Brian Cushing Houston
    2010 Ndamukong Suh Detroit Lions
    2011 Von Miller Denver Broncos
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:48 am
  • Kuechly will win droy and it will be B.S.
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:52 am
  • Are there no Seahawks to ever grace that list?
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Re: rookies of the year
Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:57 am
  • Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Are there no Seahawks to ever grace that list?


    It's all about the PUB my brotha! Seahawks don't get no pub so we don't get no awards! Shaun Alexander had to break a freaking record before they even considered giving him the MVP.
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:48 pm
  • CANHawk wrote:
    Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Are there no Seahawks to ever grace that list?


    It's all about the PUB my brotha! Seahawks don't get no pub so we don't get no awards! Shaun Alexander had to break a freaking record before they even considered giving him the MVP.


    Well put. Being better isn't enough in South AK. You have to be better three times. They don't know who bswag is so they can't vote for him.
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:38 pm
  • tatupu shoulda won the year merriman did.
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:50 pm
  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    CANHawk wrote:
    Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Are there no Seahawks to ever grace that list?


    It's all about the PUB my brotha! Seahawks don't get no pub so we don't get no awards! Shaun Alexander had to break a freaking record before they even considered giving him the MVP.


    Well put. Being better isn't enough in South AK. You have to be better three times. They don't know who bswag is so they can't vote for him.

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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:02 pm
  • I really dont think Wagner has a shot to win it at all. Nobody has any idea who he is, unfortunately.
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:51 pm
  • They will when we win the Superbowl!!!! :)
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:55 pm
  • hawksfan515 wrote:Don't think so. We could get Coach of the year, executive of the year, OROY, and DROY though. All possible.


    Our coach didn't get cancer. That one's preordained. We're not getting Coach of the Year, even if we win the Super Bowl.
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:56 pm
  • Pretty good..........

    ""The scores seem about right: 99.3 for Wilson, 87.1 for Kaepernick, 58.6 for Bradford and 21.5 for Arizona's Ryan Lindley. Note that the 100-point scale is more percentile-based than linear, meaning it's much tougher to jump from 97 to 99 than from, say, 49 to 51. Wilson became the first quarterback in the Super Bowl era to finish a game with at least one touchdown pass, three rushing touchdowns and 90 yards rushing. The Pro Football Hall of Fame recognized the performance by acquiring Wilson's game uniform for display in Canton. Wilson made most of those contributions in the first half, when they were most meaningful. The result was the highest qualifying single-game QBR score in the NFL this season.""

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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:58 pm
  • Except that Kaepernick does not deserve even close to an 87.1 for fumbling 4 times. Sheer luck the 49ers recovered it all 4 times.
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Re: rookies of the year
Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:39 pm
  • Greenhell wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that even if Russ and Bobby finish the season with strong stats that they'll still be overlooked. The sports world wants Luck or RGIII even though Russ is performing just as well if not better. Not sure what the DROY race looks like. Who's the favorite there?


    Sadly I would have to agree. It seems that the only thing that would move Wilson past RGIII would be if we were to face Washington in the playoffs and Wilson dramatically outplayed him.

    As for Wagner, I have a sneakin' suspicion that only a convincing playoff win coupled with a Super Bowl appearance would put him in the running.

    The powers that be just don't seem to see any value in giving our guys credit. Hopefully they feed off that, though.
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