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 Post subject: Re: Carpenter IR'ed
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"non-football related injury"? dafuq? What, did he pull something at pilates? Did he hurt himself while sailing? I didn't think Carpenter did much "non-football related" anything besides eat a gym bag full of burritos and sleep. I didn't realize "being fat" was now classified as a "non-football related injury".

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The non-football thing is a little concerning after googling it and seeing that the last few guys added to that list were all having some kind of mental/emotional issues.

Hope all is well.

Edit: also for things like cancer and other medical issues unrelated to football. Not really comfortable joking about him if it could be that serious.


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"non-football related injury"? dafuq? What, did he pull something at pilates? Did he hurt himself while sailing? I didn't think Carpenter did much "non-football related" anything besides eat a gym bag full of burritos and sleep. I didn't realize "being fat" was now classified as a "non-football related injury".


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The non-football thing is a little concerning after googling it and seeing that the last few guys added to that list were all having some kind of mental/emotional issues.

Hope all is well.

That's what I was sort of thinking about, not him being "fat".

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Carp's a very good player for us so this is a bummer. He could just never get right this year, which is unsurprising considering the knee injury. Hope he comes back strong and gets healthy.

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John Clayton explained on KIRO radio this afternoon that the injury/illness is not related to football activities... so we really don't know what the issue is.

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 Post subject: Re: Carpenter IR'ed
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Carp's a very good player for us so this is a bummer. He could just never get right this year, which is unsurprising considering the knee injury. Hope he comes back strong and gets healthy.


He was?

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I'm not giving up on him yet by any means. Just look at "Glass Ankles" Okung. Guy's been the bright spot of our OL this year.

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Tech Worlds wrote:
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Carp's a very good player for us so this is a bummer. He could just never get right this year, which is unsurprising considering the knee injury. Hope he comes back strong and gets healthy.


He was?


Yep, he was an improvement over the other guards inside. The strongest interior point of attack lineman we had. I hate to lose him, but he needs to get healthy.

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Carp's a very good player for us so this is a bummer. He could just never get right this year, which is unsurprising considering the knee injury. Hope he comes back strong and gets healthy.


He was?


Yep, he was an improvement over the other guards inside. The strongest interior point of attack lineman we had. I hate to lose him, but he needs to get healthy.

From what I could tell, he was definitely contributing to our good run-blocking.

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@espn_nfcwest: Use of non-football illness list for James Carpenter likely means injury more cumulative than suffered at any 1 moment. Result same.


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I wonder if he's suffering from depression - he seemed to struggle a bit mentally with getting over his injury. Maybe they want to get his body and head right for next year.


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Guy has just never gotten the train on the tracks since he was drafted.

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I am not liking this draft pick at all right now.

This one has not panned out.


Nope, he hasn't been on the field at all and it's getting annoying.


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I wonder if he's suffering from depression - he seemed to struggle a bit mentally with getting over his injury. Maybe they want to get his body and head right for next year.

I doubt it. Many thought he'd be out the whole season, but he worked his butt off and got back a lot sooner than expected. In retrospect, maybe he should've slowed it down and fully recovered.


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The strength of this draft is the interior OL. We just might see a high round pick there, and Carp might have to fight for his job, like everyone else has had to do.


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Carp's a very good player for us so this is a bummer. He could just never get right this year, which is unsurprising considering the knee injury. Hope he comes back strong and gets healthy.


He was?


Yep, he was an improvement over the other guards inside. The strongest interior point of attack lineman we had. I hate to lose him, but he needs to get healthy.


You said he was "a very good player", which I think is disrespectful to all the very good players in this league.

Average and perhaps getting better? I can buy that.

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We have exactly ZERO "very good" guards on this roster. Moffit is a joke as is our rookie DT convert Sweezy although there is always hope for a cat named Sweezy and McQuistan. and McQuistan. We got serviceable and we got hopeful but we aint got nothing to write home about.

Moffit is a booger eating freak too. But you wanna have a beer with him. Woo Hoo!


And Dammit!! I had high hopes for Carpal. He is powerful. But Im glad I will never see his big ass hanging out of his pants again this year!!

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I'm not giving up on him yet by any means. Just look at "Glass Ankles" Okung. Guy's been the bright spot of our OL this year.


Unger too.


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I'm not giving up on him yet by any means. Just look at "Glass Ankles" Okung. Guy's been the bright spot of our OL this year.


Unger too.


Yes but neither of them report to camp each year 80 pounds over weight.

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Not giving up on him but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about Carp.

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Would like to see Carp come in 25 pounds lighter next year and smash his way to the pro bowl. The weight coming off will help him stay healthy and will add explosiveness. He's naturally huge so there's no worry about loss in power in run blocking.


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Didn't Carpenter basically work his TAIL OFF to even get back this year? A year that NO ONE expected him to come back in, at all? One he could've just rode out on IR and actually taken LESS criticism than he is in this thread?


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Didn't Carpenter basically work his TAIL OFF to even get back this year? A year that NO ONE expected him to come back in, at all? One he could've just rode out on IR and actually taken LESS criticism than he is in this thread?



I got nothing against him. I said mostly all good things, except his buttcrack. Moffit gets my goat though.

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Not giving up on him but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about Carp.


Just like everyone had a bad feeling about Okung, or Tate, or Unger?

Yeah I really am too though. And I was a supporter of all 3 of those guys forever. Not sure what to think of when it comes to Carp....

Thank god we only spent #25 on him??


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We have exactly ZERO "very good" guards on this roster. Moffit is a joke as is our rookie DT convert Sweezy although there is always hope for a cat named Sweezy and McQuistan. and McQuistan. We got serviceable and we got hopeful but we aint got nothing to write home about.

Moffit is a booger eating freak too. But you wanna have a beer with him. Woo Hoo!


And Dammit!! I had high hopes for Carpal. He is powerful. But Im glad I will never see his big ass hanging out of his pants again this year!!


I think Carp needs to start eating more boogers to help strengthen his knee...

and Pete sounded pretty somber in his postgame presser when the reporter asked if it was the same knee that was previously injured :ohwell:

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It's early, but anyone know if there will be any decent veteran O-Linemen that will be free agents this offseason? Maybe it wouldn't hurt to sign a guy for 1 year and be able to plug in a proven vet while these rookies get their sh*t together. Idk, just spitballin'. I think we can all agree that our OL play has been less than stellar.

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It's early, but anyone know if there will be any decent veteran O-Linemen that will be free agents this offseason? Maybe it wouldn't hurt to sign a guy for 1 year and be able to plug in a proven vet while these rookies get their sh*t together. Idk, just spitballin'. I think we can all agree that our OL play has been less than stellar.


dont we do this every year?

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It's early, but anyone know if there will be any decent veteran O-Linemen that will be free agents this offseason? Maybe it wouldn't hurt to sign a guy for 1 year and be able to plug in a proven vet while these rookies get their sh*t together. Idk, just spitballin'. I think we can all agree that our OL play has been less than stellar.


dont we do this every year?

I guess. Others have said we should draft, but look how well the guys we've drafted recently have panned out. I just wish there was a guy we could get that would make an immediate impact. Oh well, in PC/JS I trust.

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Didn't Carpenter basically work his TAIL OFF to even get back this year? A year that NO ONE expected him to come back in, at all? One he could've just rode out on IR and actually taken LESS criticism than he is in this thread?


Thank god some one pointed this out. Couldn't have said it better myself. The man's big, but he worked his ass off to get back on the field and played fairly well for us.


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He will be much better off this time around. Last year he couldn't keep in shape because his injured knee limited him in his work outs. If he has a full off season to get in shape (something he's never had), he is very likely to come back and be a monster at left guard for 16 plus games. The man can mow people over, he just needs to get healthy.

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Competition at guard should be pretty intense next year. Carpenter should be 100% by then but I would assume his spot would be up for grabs. McQuistan too. Moffitt has been a solid starter this season and Sweezy and Johnson have very high run blocking potential if they continue to develop.


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I don't mean to be cruel , but he needs to work with a dietitian and trainer as well.


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