Whose fault is the Hawks defensive woes?

Giblien · Dec 2, 2012

The players or the coaches?

sutz · Dec 2, 2012

sturg78 · Dec 2, 2012

Aside from that last boneheaded play, it was just Marshall balling out. I guess that is on the coach to not single him out more but I guess they were just confident in Sherman and Browner being able to man him up.

falcongoggles · Dec 2, 2012

sturg78":2alci7i3 said:
Aside from that last boneheaded play, it was just Marshall balling out. I guess that is on the coach to not single him out more but I guess they were just confident in Sherman and Browner being able to man him up.

Stop, just stop. It was Matt Stafford and the Lions with their backs against the wall. Then it was AP just doing his thing. Then it was Dolphins doing...<insert excuse>

The defense is regressing. Period.

entropyrulesall · Dec 2, 2012

Zone defense. I don't know if that is an and/or option for the players and coaches.

Often, it's one or the other: calling, substituting, or executing.

Happypuppy · Dec 2, 2012

Coaches on this one.

sturg78 · Dec 2, 2012

When one guy beats you, its on the coaches. When the team consistently fails on 3rd and long, its the coaches. When you have so many ballers on the D like we do and they faulter as such, its the coaches.

Hawks46 · Dec 2, 2012

Entropy has this one. We were in zone defense all first half, and Marshall killed us. We switched to bump and run, and mostly shut him down the 2nd half.

LymonHawk · Dec 2, 2012

We held the Bears to 17pts on their home turf, and we suck? Yes, that one play sucked big time, but if our Defense hadn't held them to 14 pts previously, we never would have had a chance.

But hey, haters gonna hate.

gargantual · Dec 2, 2012

Very good points LymonHawk. Might as well appreciate the win (we sure as hell have beat ourselves up over the last week). A win is a friggin WIN!

jkitsune · Dec 2, 2012

LymonHawk":c8nxppaz said:
We held the Bears to 17pts on their home turf, and we suck? Yes, that one play sucked big time, but if our Defense hadn't held them to 14 pts previously, we never would have had a chance.

But hey, haters gonna hate.

There were several open receivers who dropped key passes, including a deep TD strike where the receiver blew past Brandon Browner. We couldn't get pressure on an awful Bears OL. It's concerning. I'm psyched for the win, but there's legit reasons to be concerned.

razgriz737 · Dec 2, 2012

jkitsune":3uofeq7v said:
LymonHawk":3uofeq7v said:

We held the Bears to 17pts on their home turf, and we suck? Yes, that one play sucked big time, but if our Defense hadn't held them to 14 pts previously, we never would have had a chance.

But hey, haters gonna hate.

Click to expand...

There were several open receivers who dropped key passes, including a deep TD strike where the receiver blew past Brandon Browner. We couldn't get pressure on an awful Bears OL. It's concerning. I'm psyched for the win, but there's legit reasons to be concerned.

Agreed.

hawkmanj · Dec 2, 2012

It's on coaching. They need to rush the passer more.

And hate to say it, but it looked like our corners could have used some adderall today...

ensett · Dec 2, 2012

It's gotta be both. Seems like players are getting away from the basics and trying to do to much, and the coaches need to straighten that out.

CurryStopstheRuns · Dec 2, 2012

jkitsune":20e0yzyu said:
LymonHawk":20e0yzyu said:

We held the Bears to 17pts on their home turf, and we suck? Yes, that one play sucked big time, but if our Defense hadn't held them to 14 pts previously, we never would have had a chance.

But hey, haters gonna hate.

Click to expand...

There were several open receivers who dropped key passes, including a deep TD strike where the receiver blew past Brandon Browner. We couldn't get pressure on an awful Bears OL. It's concerning. I'm psyched for the win, but there's legit reasons to be concerned.

Funny that you mention that play and state that we couldn't get any pressure. For one, pressure from Clemmons forced Cutler out of the pocket and if holding was called after the RT tackled CC to the ground then that play would not have mattered at all.

PlinytheCenter · Dec 2, 2012

Our pass rush has pretty much disappeared over the last few weeks. They need to pick it up big time.

jkitsune · Dec 2, 2012

I'm sure you're not using one play where we got a little bit of pressure to excuse the lack of it all game.

CurryStopstheRuns · Dec 2, 2012

razgriz737":2i79ptfo said:
jkitsune":2i79ptfo said:

LymonHawk":2i79ptfo said:

We held the Bears to 17pts on their home turf, and we suck? Yes, that one play sucked big time, but if our Defense hadn't held them to 14 pts previously, we never would have had a chance.

But hey, haters gonna hate.

Click to expand...

There were several open receivers who dropped key passes, including a deep TD strike where the receiver blew past Brandon Browner. We couldn't get pressure on an awful Bears OL. It's concerning. I'm psyched for the win, but there's legit reasons to be concerned.

Click to expand...

Agreed.

Disagree

CurryStopstheRuns · Dec 2, 2012

jkitsune":34ojx1ig said:
I'm sure you're not using one play where we got a little bit of pressure to excuse the lack of it all game.

No, I am using the example that you gave to dispute your faulty claims. Now, if you had used a better example, then you may have me swayed.

jkitsune · Dec 2, 2012

I don't think I need to sway you unless you didn't watch the game.

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