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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    cesame wrote:Maybe Sherman will stop talking now.


    WOW, wishing someone to be unable to speak because of taking drugs is definitely NOT ok and I encourage mods to ban this fool


    Hour after the loss he's on twitter talking trash to Patriots fans.

    He needs to shut it. Now more than ever.
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  • Slick wrote:So what's the advantage for a football player taking Adderall? Is it for mental focus?


    Yeah, it would be a huge aid in film study/gameplanning too.

    It makes sense why it's banned.
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  • SoHo9erFan wrote:
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    m0ng0 wrote:makes one wonder how a cfl corner and a 5th rounder become pro bowl caliber so quickly?

    **edit whoops missed the post above**


    First of all I doubt its roids.

    Second of all, steroids does not make you into an elite corner.

    Since when does having more muscle mass and weight help you cover?

    Only benefit it could have for corners is to increase the rate of injury recovery.


    I didn't want to comment because i'm sure you guys don't want to hear the thoughts of a 49ers fan, but this is the dumbest post ever. Roids don't just increase body mass-- why do you think olympic sprinters and bicyclists take steroids? It makes you faster too.

    Regardless, I think it was Adderall they are being accused of...




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  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    Tech Worlds wrote:Wow this could be the nail in the coffin for Pete.



    Oh do be quiet.

    Final nail my ass.


    I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.
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  • Hawkstorian wrote:
    cesame wrote:Pete Carroll is a cheater.

    There, I said it.


    What are you talking about? Encouraging players to take a substance that will be easily detected?

    Or is it more likely the players are responsible for what goes into their bodies? You think?


    How dare you use common sense Hawkstorian. STOP IT. STOPIT NOW. IT BURNS
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  • Wow, when I said this is the worst weekend to be a Seattle football fan, this hadn't even broken yet. FFS.
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  • Interesting. This makes total sense when you bring up the preparation aspect of things. They need to stay focused and stay awake. Maybe I should try this stuff....

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    Slick wrote:So what's the advantage for a football player taking Adderall? Is it for mental focus?


    Yeah, it would be a huge aid in film study/gameplanning too.

    It makes sense why it's banned.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:
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    Tech Worlds wrote:Wow this could be the nail in the coffin for Pete.



    Oh do be quiet.

    Final nail my ass.


    I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.


    I agree here. I had people calling me an idiot for saying another losing season would be the end of Carrolls tenure here.

    I made it clear that I don't want Carroll fired but it's a win NOW league. How many .500 and sub .500 seasons you think the big boss man is going to put up with?
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  • I hope this is not true. I would be really upset if we lost these guys for 4 games but even moreso because they were cheating.. Im just gonna put on my seahawks tunnel vision goggles ( must like that tate catch ) and hope its not true.

    what a horrible horrible Sunday.
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  • Also apparently the NFL doesn't disclose what banned substance was taken. Players just say Adderall because it's the least "cheating" type of banned substance.

    So we'll never really know, I guess. Either way, not good, very stupid.
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  • Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.
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  • 21Sanders&Moss84 wrote:Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.


    Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You don't know when, why, or how often they've been taking the drugs.
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  • Final nail in the coffin for pete?

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  • Tech Worlds wrote:
    theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    Tech Worlds wrote:Wow this could be the nail in the coffin for Pete.



    Oh do be quiet.

    Final nail my ass.


    I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.


    6-10? What in the world are you talking about. Get a grip dude. We are still in the playoff hunt
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  • 21Sanders&Moss84 wrote:Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.


    Look, let's go ahead and wait and see. Innocent until proven guilty? Ever hear of it. I'm sick of you punks coming here trying to rev shit. I'd love to beat Niner ass even without those guys.
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  • KARAVARUS wrote:
    21Sanders&Moss84 wrote:Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.


    Look, let's go ahead and wait and see. Innocent until proven guilty? Ever hear of it. I'm sick of you punks coming here trying to rev shit. I'd love to beat Niner ass even without those guys.


    Sit down and chill out.
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    Tech Worlds wrote:
    theENGLISHseahawk wrote:[quote="Tech Worlds"]Wow this could be the nail in the coffin for Pete.



    Oh do be quiet.

    Final nail my ass.


    I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.


    6-10? What in the world are you talking about. Get a grip dude. We are still in the playoff hunt[/quote]

    I think it's going to be hard to win without our starting corners. I didn't say we were going to go 6 - 10, just that it would be bad for Pete if we do.
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  • bellingerga wrote:
    21Sanders&Moss84 wrote:Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.


    Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You don't know when, why, or how often they've been taking the drugs.


    I agree. Who knows what the substances can be. I wonder if it will be disclosed at all.
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  • I am 100% shocked/disappointed.

    If this is true and they used PED's, I just lost so much respect for these guys.

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  • 21Sanders&Moss84 wrote:Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.

    They'll be just as good there Whiners fan!!
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  • Both these guys have to take a long look at themselves now and realise they didn't just let down the fans and the team but themselves. No matter what happens, they'll be known for taking PEDs and that's something they'll have to work against for the rest of there careers. If they truly are innocent of taking anything (and it'll be interesting to see how they attempt to spin it) then I hope they get an appeal through and the accusations are withdrawn, but if not then I hope they can man up and admit they did a stupid ass thing and apologise to everyone for it.

    As for innocent until proven guilty? well by failing the drug test they have already been proven guilty, now they need to prove themselves innocent... it doesn't happen very often when drug tests fail.

    After the suspension is done, I'll be supporting them as always, hoping they can prove us all wrong and in the offseason re-evaluate themselves mentally.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.



    Yeah... screw the last three years of building around this vision. Let's blow it up and start again. After all, everyone knows the best thing for a young QB is multiple coaching changes. Plus, we can just use Bruce Irvin as an orthodox DE in the next scheme.

    And I really fear the day Ryan Lindley marches into Century Link to combat our replacement corners. Scary eh? No way we'll win that one against the Cards. Or the game against St. Louis who got owned at home by a shambolic New York last week. And the Bills are great too, especially with that defeaning home field advantage in Toronto. So we'll lose every game now. Because of no corners.

    And when that happens... because the two starters didn't do a good enough job on their own checking what they can and cannot put in their body, we'll fire the coach. Give Brad Childress a call or something because he'll know what to do. Time for another major rebuild.

    Stuff like this almost makes me long for the days of Wilson vs Flynn. Almost.
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  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    Tech Worlds wrote:I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.



    Yeah... screw the last three years of building around this vision. Let's blow it up and start again. After all, everyone knows the best thing for a young QB is multiple coaching changes. Plus, we can just use Bruce Irvin as an orthodox DE in the next scheme.

    And I really fear the day Ryan Lindley marches into Century Link to combat our replacement corners. Scary eh? No way we'll win that one against the Cards. Or the game against St. Louis who got owned at home by a shambolic New York last week. And the Bills are great too, especially with that defeaning home field advantage in Toronto. So we'll lose every game now. Because of no corners.

    And when that happens... because the two starters didn't do a good enough job on their own checking what they can and cannot put in their body, we'll fire the coach. Give Brad Childress a call or something because he'll know what to do. Time for another major rebuild.

    Stuff like this almost makes me long for the days of Wilson vs Flynn. Almost.


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  • The team's struggling on the road with them, so this just makes it harder if they're suspended.

    And while we can critize the Buffalo home crowd, but did you see the half empty stadium in Miami? Crowds do not seem to be a factor.....whatever it is, this coaching staff needs to fix it and fix it fast!
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  • cesame wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling Pete is losing control?


    Yep. :179422: :179422: :179422: :179422: :179422: Drink up mmmmMMMMMmmm.


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  • and the fourth game would be against. Yup, the Niners.
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  • Relax, it's adderall. It's not the most powerful substance out there and honestly I don't see how it gives you an advantage

    I've been on adderall for about 4 years, it's not as strong as people think

    I'm disappointed in both of them if this is true but lets see how this plays out and see if it was in fact their error or someone elses
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  • It's funny the nfl goes after the best secondary in the league....hmmmm
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  • You guys do realize pretty much all NFL players juice right? Juicing is rampant in division a1 ball as well. Don't lose respect for these guys...someone screwed up their regular routine...
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  • Either way Sherman should shutup
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  • Ugh...I am done having hope for this team this season and I am changing my fantasy football team name because of the shame. This sickens me if true. GAHHHHH!!!!!!
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  • Seahwkgal wrote:Ugh...I am done with this team and I am changing my fantasy football team name because of the shame. This sickens me if true. GAHHHHH!!!!!!


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  • I was always under the impression that 4 game suspensions were for multiple times of being caught using banned substances. Thought it always started out with fines and/or 1 or 2 game suspensions.

    Either there is more going on in the past,,,,

    hmmmm.

    :141847_bnono:

    Also lets remember all players are given random tests for illegals. Its not like anyone would think they weren't.
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  • My Lawdy, listen if this type of thing gets the bandwagoners out of here then seriously GTFO, no need for soft souls and fairweather spirits in here
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  • I don't care about the season any more. Guy, Browner and Sherman (buddies) all get hit with PED suspensions? Something tells me they weren't taking adderall. I am servery disappointing because I looked up to these guys. I thought this team was on a high road and I can't support cheaters.
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  • NJHawksFan wrote:I don't care about the season any more. Guy, Browner and Sherman (buddies) all get hit with PED suspensions? Something tells me they weren't taking adderall. I am servery disappointing because I looked up to these guys. I thought this team was on a high road and I can't support cheaters.


    Thoughts on Pete Carroll?

    First USC, now this?

    How do you think it all reflects on him?
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  • I have been a Seahawk fan since 1977. So screw yourselves if you think I am a bandwagon fan. Apparently the youngsters here don't allow long time hawk fans to vent their frustrations. (Big middle finger to you too)
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  • Pharmacists keep Adderall under lock and key. It is a carefully controlled substance. It is usually used for ADHD children and adults or for narcolepsy. Adderall is a brand-name pharmaceutical psychostimulant drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine chemical classes. This stimulant works by causing increased production of hormones in the brain related to attention and behavior and preventing fast reabsorption of these chemicals to provide increased concentration abilities for individuals who need it. One has to see the MD every three months in order to get the precription renewed.

    Of course, there are "other ways" to obtain the drug.
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  • Very disappointing. All is not lost, but considering how bad the defense was today against a poor Miami offense, things are about to get much worse imo.
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  • Seaswab wrote:It's funny the nfl goes after the best secondary in the league....hmmmm



    Was that the best secondary in the league we were watching today?
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  • Season = Done...........what a heck of a day this was, disappointing on so many levels.
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  • VancitySeahawk wrote:
    m0ng0 wrote:makes one wonder how a cfl corner and a 5th rounder become pro bowl caliber so quickly?

    **edit whoops missed the post above**


    First of all I doubt its roids.

    Second of all, steroids does not make you into an elite corner.

    Since when does having more muscle mass and weight help you cover?

    Only benefit it could have for corners is to increase the rate of injury recovery.


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  • Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.


    interesting, what are the odds BB and Sherm both got randoms this week?
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.


    I think u might be onto something. This day sucks but all i end up saying is GO SEAHAWKS!!!
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.


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  • So they got busted for Adderall as well or is that just speculation? I'm not sorting through 7 pages to find the answer.

    Regardless of what it was, I hope the appeal works and I pray they are innocent as unlikely as that may be going off the success rates of appeals on suspensions. Unbelievable. Season is not over, but it is in serious doubt. When you remove the strength from our team for the rest of the year I don't see how anyone could read it any different. Sucks..............
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