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  • I am 100% shocked/disappointed.

    If this is true and they used PED's, I just lost so much respect for these guys.

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  • 21Sanders&Moss84 wrote:Curious as to when the suspensions will take effect, assuming the appeals don't work. It's also interesting to monitor the effectiveness of Sherman and Browner when they're forced to play without the PEDs they're using.

    They'll be just as good there Whiners fan!!
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  • Both these guys have to take a long look at themselves now and realise they didn't just let down the fans and the team but themselves. No matter what happens, they'll be known for taking PEDs and that's something they'll have to work against for the rest of there careers. If they truly are innocent of taking anything (and it'll be interesting to see how they attempt to spin it) then I hope they get an appeal through and the accusations are withdrawn, but if not then I hope they can man up and admit they did a stupid ass thing and apologise to everyone for it.

    As for innocent until proven guilty? well by failing the drug test they have already been proven guilty, now they need to prove themselves innocent... it doesn't happen very often when drug tests fail.

    After the suspension is done, I'll be supporting them as always, hoping they can prove us all wrong and in the offseason re-evaluate themselves mentally.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.



    Yeah... screw the last three years of building around this vision. Let's blow it up and start again. After all, everyone knows the best thing for a young QB is multiple coaching changes. Plus, we can just use Bruce Irvin as an orthodox DE in the next scheme.

    And I really fear the day Ryan Lindley marches into Century Link to combat our replacement corners. Scary eh? No way we'll win that one against the Cards. Or the game against St. Louis who got owned at home by a shambolic New York last week. And the Bills are great too, especially with that defeaning home field advantage in Toronto. So we'll lose every game now. Because of no corners.

    And when that happens... because the two starters didn't do a good enough job on their own checking what they can and cannot put in their body, we'll fire the coach. Give Brad Childress a call or something because he'll know what to do. Time for another major rebuild.

    Stuff like this almost makes me long for the days of Wilson vs Flynn. Almost.
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  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    Tech Worlds wrote:I think two 7-9 seasons followed up by a 6-10 year very well could be grounds for a coaching change.

    Of course that all depends on just what comes out of this situation. How much does Pete know? It's looking kinda like the inmates are running the assilum.

    Hopefully not as I like Carroll.



    Yeah... screw the last three years of building around this vision. Let's blow it up and start again. After all, everyone knows the best thing for a young QB is multiple coaching changes. Plus, we can just use Bruce Irvin as an orthodox DE in the next scheme.

    And I really fear the day Ryan Lindley marches into Century Link to combat our replacement corners. Scary eh? No way we'll win that one against the Cards. Or the game against St. Louis who got owned at home by a shambolic New York last week. And the Bills are great too, especially with that defeaning home field advantage in Toronto. So we'll lose every game now. Because of no corners.

    And when that happens... because the two starters didn't do a good enough job on their own checking what they can and cannot put in their body, we'll fire the coach. Give Brad Childress a call or something because he'll know what to do. Time for another major rebuild.

    Stuff like this almost makes me long for the days of Wilson vs Flynn. Almost.


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  • The team's struggling on the road with them, so this just makes it harder if they're suspended.

    And while we can critize the Buffalo home crowd, but did you see the half empty stadium in Miami? Crowds do not seem to be a factor.....whatever it is, this coaching staff needs to fix it and fix it fast!
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  • cesame wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling Pete is losing control?


    Yep. :179422: :179422: :179422: :179422: :179422: Drink up mmmmMMMMMmmm.


    But yep.
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  • and the fourth game would be against. Yup, the Niners.
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  • Relax, it's adderall. It's not the most powerful substance out there and honestly I don't see how it gives you an advantage

    I've been on adderall for about 4 years, it's not as strong as people think

    I'm disappointed in both of them if this is true but lets see how this plays out and see if it was in fact their error or someone elses
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  • It's funny the nfl goes after the best secondary in the league....hmmmm
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  • You guys do realize pretty much all NFL players juice right? Juicing is rampant in division a1 ball as well. Don't lose respect for these guys...someone screwed up their regular routine...
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  • Please use quotation marks when referring to anything Seahawks as "best"
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  • Either way Sherman should shutup
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  • Ugh...I am done having hope for this team this season and I am changing my fantasy football team name because of the shame. This sickens me if true. GAHHHHH!!!!!!
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  • Seahwkgal wrote:Ugh...I am done with this team and I am changing my fantasy football team name because of the shame. This sickens me if true. GAHHHHH!!!!!!


    Alright bye bye, dont let the door hit you on the way out, girlfriend
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  • I was always under the impression that 4 game suspensions were for multiple times of being caught using banned substances. Thought it always started out with fines and/or 1 or 2 game suspensions.

    Either there is more going on in the past,,,,

    hmmmm.

    :141847_bnono:

    Also lets remember all players are given random tests for illegals. Its not like anyone would think they weren't.
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  • My Lawdy, listen if this type of thing gets the bandwagoners out of here then seriously GTFO, no need for soft souls and fairweather spirits in here
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  • I don't care about the season any more. Guy, Browner and Sherman (buddies) all get hit with PED suspensions? Something tells me they weren't taking adderall. I am servery disappointing because I looked up to these guys. I thought this team was on a high road and I can't support cheaters.
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  • NJHawksFan wrote:I don't care about the season any more. Guy, Browner and Sherman (buddies) all get hit with PED suspensions? Something tells me they weren't taking adderall. I am servery disappointing because I looked up to these guys. I thought this team was on a high road and I can't support cheaters.


    Thoughts on Pete Carroll?

    First USC, now this?

    How do you think it all reflects on him?
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  • I have been a Seahawk fan since 1977. So screw yourselves if you think I am a bandwagon fan. Apparently the youngsters here don't allow long time hawk fans to vent their frustrations. (Big middle finger to you too)
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  • Pharmacists keep Adderall under lock and key. It is a carefully controlled substance. It is usually used for ADHD children and adults or for narcolepsy. Adderall is a brand-name pharmaceutical psychostimulant drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine chemical classes. This stimulant works by causing increased production of hormones in the brain related to attention and behavior and preventing fast reabsorption of these chemicals to provide increased concentration abilities for individuals who need it. One has to see the MD every three months in order to get the precription renewed.

    Of course, there are "other ways" to obtain the drug.
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  • Very disappointing. All is not lost, but considering how bad the defense was today against a poor Miami offense, things are about to get much worse imo.
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  • Seaswab wrote:It's funny the nfl goes after the best secondary in the league....hmmmm



    Was that the best secondary in the league we were watching today?
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  • Season = Done...........what a heck of a day this was, disappointing on so many levels.
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  • VancitySeahawk wrote:
    m0ng0 wrote:makes one wonder how a cfl corner and a 5th rounder become pro bowl caliber so quickly?

    **edit whoops missed the post above**


    First of all I doubt its roids.

    Second of all, steroids does not make you into an elite corner.

    Since when does having more muscle mass and weight help you cover?

    Only benefit it could have for corners is to increase the rate of injury recovery.


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  • Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.


    interesting, what are the odds BB and Sherm both got randoms this week?
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.


    I think u might be onto something. This day sucks but all i end up saying is GO SEAHAWKS!!!
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Methinks Guy rolled over and gave up the goods on the rest of the secondary. Probably po'd he was having to "compete" against guys on PEP's and he gets busted.


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  • So they got busted for Adderall as well or is that just speculation? I'm not sorting through 7 pages to find the answer.

    Regardless of what it was, I hope the appeal works and I pray they are innocent as unlikely as that may be going off the success rates of appeals on suspensions. Unbelievable. Season is not over, but it is in serious doubt. When you remove the strength from our team for the rest of the year I don't see how anyone could read it any different. Sucks..............
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  • Damn.. This is going to hurt..
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  • Well we've been saying The Legion (please, lets use this instead of the whole godawful name) hasnt gotten enough national attention, and now this falls into our laps.
    My biggest worry is will this lead to revelations about the rest of the secondary, as my favorite player in all of football if similar revelations emerged regarding ET ill be crushed.
    I disagree with firing Pete, this isn't is fault unless he tied em down and force-injected em (in which case we have far bigger problems :P).

    So those in the know what are the possibilities for this occurance?
    - Taken it maliciously and were caught.
    - Taken it for add and didn't know it was illegal/didnt think to get prescription.
    - Its contained in something they take legally.
    What does everyone reckon?

    Innocent until proven guilty, but IF they turn out to be so, wow that'll be a firestorm.
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  • I'd put the chances that they are taking adderall for ADD at about .00000001%.

    Dudes frakked up. Screwed themselves and their team.
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  • Bummer. Boooooooooooo! Next man up.
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  • Worst day to be a Seahawk fan since superbowl XL. Season over.
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  • KARAVARUS wrote:
    Teqneek wrote:Well I'm done lurking for the year. The replies in this thread make me sick. Have fun being these kind of fans. Must make watching so enjoyable... Later peeps!


    Hmmm. Wondering what your basis is for this? If these guys in fact, cheated, then f them. That's not the kind of team I want to cheer for. We as fans have a right to be pissed.

    Team?,,,Two guys screw up, so Wilson and the rest of the team takes a hit for it?, :141847_bnono: ,Ya, OK, bye :177692:
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  • Twisted wrote:
    Hawks46 wrote:wow. Ouch. that would be our season right there.


    maybe thats whats going on, they stopped taking them a few weeks ago? they looked bad today


    They didn't look bad today, it was Leroy Hill that got burned all day long.
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  • This story is going viral....

    According to USA Today’s Mike Garafolo, Browner and Sherman tested positive for Adderall. If true, that would make the Seahawks’ cornerbacks the latest players punished by the NFL’s crackdown on the drug, which is used to treat ADHD, among other things. Atlanta center Joe Hawley, Tampa Bay cornerbacks Aqib Talib and Eric Wright, and the Giants’ Will Hill and Tyler Sash have all been suspended for Adderall use....Unless Browner and Sherman manage to successfully reverse their punishments on appeal — Giants’ RB Andre Brown did so in the offseason — then the Seahawks’ chances at making the postseason will dwindle significantly
    http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/25/brandon-br ... erall-use/

    Adderall seems to be very popular....
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  • truehawksfan wrote:This story is going viral....

    According to USA Today’s Mike Garafolo, Browner and Sherman tested positive for Adderall. If true, that would make the Seahawks’ cornerbacks the latest players punished by the NFL’s crackdown on the drug, which is used to treat ADHD, among other things. Atlanta center Joe Hawley, Tampa Bay cornerbacks Aqib Talib and Eric Wright, and the Giants’ Will Hill and Tyler Sash have all been suspended for Adderall use....Unless Browner and Sherman manage to successfully reverse their punishments on appeal — Giants’ RB Andre Brown did so in the offseason — then the Seahawks’ chances at making the postseason will dwindle significantly
    http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/25/brandon-br ... erall-use/

    Adderall seems to be very popular....



    Anyone know what was the major point of Andre Brown's argument?
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  • Jesus, to get hit with this right as we're recovering from the steaming pile the D dropped on the field today, what fun.

    Even if it were steroids as has been said in this thread previously, we're nuts if we think that and all manner of other PEDs aren't happening in the NFL of all sports at a much higher level than MLB can even conceive of. But since it's this Adderall, it's even less of a story in terms of getting on a high horse. Doesn't even move the needle with me.

    Now in terms of suspensions, yeah, I hope the appeals go well and I bemoan the lack of cunning on their part not to get away with it. But I didn't see us doing much damage this season anyhow after today's crapfest. So it's not as much of a stomach-punch as it would be if we'd have won today and begun thinking to ourselves "hey, maybe we can win 10 or 11 this year, maybe we can make some noise in the post-season."
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  • truehawksfan wrote:Adderall seems to be very popular....


    Maybe this is it, maybe we're all tanked on Adderall and this isn't really happening...? Please? :pukeface:
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  • cesame wrote:
    NJHawksFan wrote:I don't care about the season any more. Guy, Browner and Sherman (buddies) all get hit with PED suspensions? Something tells me they weren't taking adderall. I am servery disappointing because I looked up to these guys. I thought this team was on a high road and I can't support cheaters.


    Thoughts on Pete Carroll?

    First USC, now this?

    How do you think it all reflects on him?


    I dont think this reflects Pete Carroll in any way. Not even a little bit. Do you think he's their babysitter watching what they put into their bodies 24/7?
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  • scutterhawk wrote:
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    Teqneek wrote:Well I'm done lurking for the year. The replies in this thread make me sick. Have fun being these kind of fans. Must make watching so enjoyable... Later peeps!


    Hmmm. Wondering what your basis is for this? If these guys in fact, cheated, then f them. That's not the kind of team I want to cheer for. We as fans have a right to be pissed.

    Team?,,,Two guys screw up, so Wilson and the rest of the team takes a hit for it?, :141847_bnono: ,Ya, OK, bye :177692:


    Get your finger out of my face. We win as a team and lose as a team. I feel like you're condoning this crap almost. And you tell me bye because I'm pissed? Get out of my face. Cheaters suck. I'm a Hawks fan no matter what, always will be. Being pissed at people for being pissed about this says what?
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    cesame wrote:
    NJHawksFan wrote:I don't care about the season any more. Guy, Browner and Sherman (buddies) all get hit with PED suspensions? Something tells me they weren't taking adderall. I am servery disappointing because I looked up to these guys. I thought this team was on a high road and I can't support cheaters.


    Thoughts on Pete Carroll?

    First USC, now this?

    How do you think it all reflects on him?


    I dont think this reflects Pete Carroll in any way. Not even a little bit. Do you think he's their babysitter watching what they put into their bodies 24/7?


    Exactly. Its not like Pete has a bowl of adderell pills in the middle of the locker room for everyone to take.
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  • If Carroll isn't at fault here, can someone explain his newly released Win Forever Brand Adderall Suppositories?
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  • VancitySeahawk wrote:


    Exactly. Its not like Pete has a bowl of adderell pills in the middle of the locker room for everyone to take.


    I have heard stories from pro's about locker rooms in the not so distant past where things like things like this were actually quite true. Not saying that is whats going on here....
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  • VancitySeahawk wrote:Exactly. Its not like Pete has a bowl of adderell pills in the middle of the locker room for everyone to take.


    Or does he...? MIND = BLOWN.

    Seriously people, this ain't on Pete.
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  • Russell wilson is probably next.. I mean he needs it the most with his narcolepsy

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  • Seaswab wrote:It's funny the nfl goes after the best secondary in the league....hmmmm


    Can we please not go the conspiracy theory route? It makes Seahawks fans look uneducated.
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  • IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:
    Seaswab wrote:It's funny the nfl goes after the best secondary in the league....hmmmm


    Can we please not go the conspiracy theory route? It makes Seahawks fans look uneducated.


    Somehow this is Jim Harbaugh's fault. Coached Sherm in College.... now our biggest rivals coach... its all makes sense.
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