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 Post subject: Russell Wilson had a great game.
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He did...

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Agreed. If only the defense could have helped him when needed..


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The int was pretty bad, but otherwise he was solid.

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Agreed. I think he is settling in to the offense. His WRs are also starting to make some plays.

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no, he had a pretty good game, Matt Stafford is what a great game looks like. this isnt 1966

im not hating wilson, he did plenty enough to win. but it was just average by todays standards

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All three phases...
Can we please have a total game from O D and ST?
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GoldenIsThyTate wrote:
no, he had a pretty good game, Matt Stafford is what a great game looks like. this isnt 1966

No... He had a great game.

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Yeah I was impressed with him today, I think they finally let him get something going allowing him to pass on first down etc. Both TD coming in the redzone was a big plus as well


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I was wondering if you were gonna bring up RW sizzle


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He was 25/35 for 229 yards, 2 TD & 1 INT - a 71% completion rate. Obviously we'd prefer he hadn't thrown the pick, but every QB throws picks. He did his job.

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I was wondering if you were gonna bring up RW sizzle


Got to look at the positives and not the negative.

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Agreed. No complaints about RW's performance today.


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No complaints here either. I jumped off the "in with Flynn" bandwagon 3 weeks ago and glad I did. VERY upset with our D's inability to stop 3rd down conversions but had no wild aspirations of a superbowl this year anyway. I'm seeing more positives than negatives with this team, it starts with the rook and the rook is looking real. I hate saying it but.....next year.


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A "great" game? I didn't see a great game by RW, not with those overthows and errant passes. Adequate enough to win, yes, decent yes...... "great game" ....NO. I expect better from our starting qb.

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RW played very well today.. He made big plays for us.. Sure he had some mistakes but overall he was good..


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He did good, not great.

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GoldenIsThyTate wrote:
no, he had a pretty good game, Matt Stafford is what a great game looks like. this isnt 1966

im not hating wilson, he did plenty enough to win. but it was just average by todays standards

you only look at the stats for the end of the game don't you?

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He did a great job today and had a really good game. The INT was really bad but other than that he put the team in a position to win. Proud of the kid and I'm really liking the consistent improvement.

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no, he had a pretty good game, Matt Stafford is what a great game looks like. this isnt 1966

im not hating wilson, he did plenty enough to win. but it was just average by todays standards

you only look at the stats for the end of the game don't you?


i guess i need to look at the imaginary TD's he threw? dont know what else to look at lol

I watched the game, Wilson was good, maybe one of his best games. He was not GREAT at all though. Rogers vs. Houston was Great

but i was very pleased with his performance, he cut down most of usual mistakes.

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Wilson stayed in the pocket, threw with great accuracy, scored on two out of three red-zone trips, made clutch conversions on 3rd-and-10 and 4th-and-2, and spearheaded a potentially game-winning drive. All on the road without two of his primary receivers. That's exactly what I wanted to see. His best game of the season.

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RW lead the team for the go ahead TD with about 5 minutes in the 4th quarter. He threw the ball to Tate, Rice, and Miler, their best options, so I feel real good abour RW's growth from today from the 1st week of the season.


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Wilson stayed in the pocket, threw with great accuracy, made clutch conversions on 3rd-and-10 and 4th-and-2, and spearheaded a potentially game-winning drive. All on the road. That's exactly what I wanted to see. His best game of the season.


That throw to Rice I believe it was where it looked like Lions threw the oven with the heat on blast at him, and he stood in the pocket and delivered the strike stands out to me. Dude is on the verge of balling out of control.

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If we're keeping it real, RW did great for the player he is right now, but a "great game" from our QB? Not really. Good/decent I'd say (better than most of the priors with exception of one).

Defense just did not win this battle, that's too bad. Surprisingly higher scoring game than I thought.

I would agree with others in their disappointment with coaches and play calls here as well.

What a bummer, we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park (right?) but...at the same time we had this.

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Wilson stayed in the pocket, threw with great accuracy, made clutch conversions on 3rd-and-10 and 4th-and-2, and spearheaded a potentially game-winning drive. All on the road. That's exactly what I wanted to see. His best game of the season.


That throw to Rice I believe it was where it looked like Lions threw the oven with the heat on blast at him, and he stood in the pocket and delivered the strike stands out to me. Dude is on the verge of balling out of control.


RW's pocket presence has been one of his biggest improvements, I think. The first few weeks he couldn't seem to do that. He doesn't look short at all, I haven't noticed many tipped balls, his accuracy is good (not great yet), his deep ball is the best I've seen on the Hawks in quite a while (not that that's saying a ton), and his decision-making is above average.

There are times when I forget he's a rookie, he's so poised.

...And then he makes a bad decision and I remember that he is. But by all accounts, his work ethic and intelligence are off the charts, and he seems to work harder than anyone to fix his mistakes. Respect that.


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A "great" game? I didn't see a great game by RW, not with those overthows and errant passes. Adequate enough to win, yes, decent yes...... "great game" ....NO. I expect better from our starting qb.


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...And then he makes a bad decision and I remember that he is. But by all accounts, his work ethic and intelligence are off the charts, and he seems to work harder than anyone to fix his mistakes. Respect that.


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A "great" game? I didn't see a great game by RW, not with those overthows and errant passes. Adequate enough to win, yes, decent yes...... "great game" ....NO. I expect better from our starting qb.


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If your barometer for greatness is that you never see an errant pass in a game, you're going to be disappointed for a long time.

That said, 'great' wouldn't be the word I'd use for this particular game, but I think he looks better almost on a weekly basis. And I think he was good today.


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So for those that say it wasn't good / great. Dies your opinion change if the deep pass to Rice is 2 inches shorter / Rice waits another second to turn his head and
catches that deep ball?

He stood in the pocket and delivered he was much calmer and had a really good game. Also note that the first pass is what has been requested here from the opening game - an intermediate route then shortly after a slant route - amazing coaching (sarcasm).

Good / great game with a few throws not great is what you ask for. 1st red zone trip RW had one opportunity for a TD. End of half amazingly called running play instead of giving RW the opportunity for a 15 yarder down the middle.


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The end of half run was stunning incompetence. I liked Wilson today, I loved his look to Miller in the end zone. His pick reminded me of the one against SFO last week. Lots of time, good protection, should be looking in the middle, throws a high risk ball deep. I'm proud he's the QB of the Seahawks.


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He did...


Disagree.

Interception was awful and took away points.

He overthrew Rice for a TD.

That was the difference in the game. He did not play "great" by any stretch. Did he do well? Sure.. but not great.

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So for those that say it wasn't good / great. Dies your opinion change if the deep pass to Rice is 2 inches shorter / Rice waits another second to turn his head and
catches that deep ball?


Ah.. yup.

We lost by 4.. Wilson left at least 10 points out there.

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Disagree.

Interception was awful and took away points.

He overthrew Rice for a TD.

That was the difference in the game. He did not play "great" by any stretch. Did he do well? Sure.. but not great.


We all knew you would be standing in line to make it all Wilsons fault. I mean after all you've not said a kind word about him from the beginning.

I'm really sorry you dislike being a Seahawks fan.

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A "great" game? I didn't see a great game by RW, not with those overthows and errant passes. Adequate enough to win, yes, decent yes...... "great game" ....NO. I expect better from our starting qb.


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If your barometer for greatness is that you never see an errant pass in a game, you're going to be disappointed for a long time.

That said, 'great' wouldn't be the word I'd use for this particular game, but I think he looks better almost on a weekly basis. And I think he was good today.


".....you never see an errant pass in a game, you're going to be disappointed for a long time"

True that, though I wasn't really going there. Just feel he played as well today as he did against the Panthers, and that game was littered with penalties where this game wasn't. As I said, decent enough to win, albeit we didn't here because this game is all on our D.

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I can see that a lot of Hawk fans are ready to settle for mediocrity.


You can 'see' what?

Back on subject, we are talking about a pretty good game on the road from our Rookie QB... Isn't improvement something one looks for from a rookie? I saw no posts that indicated 'settling' for anything. At the risk of going off topic again, we are still only 2.5 seasons since the start of a ground-up rebuild.


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I can see that a lot of Hawk fans are ready to settle for mediocrity.


You can 'see' what?

Back on subject, we are talking about a pretty good game on the road from our Rookie QB... Isn't improvement something one looks for from a rookie? I saw no posts that indicated 'settling' for anything. At the risk of going off topic again, we are still only 2.5 seasons since the start of a ground-up rebuild.

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The int was pretty bad, but otherwise he was solid.


I don't think it was all that bad. Int on a long ball attempt...could have happened to anyone really.

On a side note, I see there are still a lot of people around here wearing Flynn colored glasses.

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He had a good game for sure. Not great but glad to see improvement each week.


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We are at the very beginning of a new era. Great game for this point in his career. A year from now, I expect better. A year after that, I expect pro-bowl performances. For years to come.


Wouldn't that be something! Very excited by his progress and basically the only salve for this game.

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All three phases...
Can we please have a total game from O D and ST?
Still a lot of time left though.

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I will say that is nice to have a Seahawks qb that can throw the long ball.Love that Wilson goes deeeep at least once a game.

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So for those that say it wasn't good / great. Dies your opinion change if the deep pass to Rice is 2 inches shorter / Rice waits another second to turn his head and
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Ah.. yup.

We lost by 4.. Wilson left at least 10 points out there.


And this is what I disagree with. Receiver starts looking early slows down or a pass is a few inches overthrown due to a myriad of reason. This can change the outcome of the game but does not alter if a qb played good. Unless it is a continuous issue...

The first drive run 1st, run 2nd pass 3rd. Not critiquing the call (even if I didn't like it) but you can't blame the qb. The redline is tight and especially within the last 10 yards. To have one attempt is not leaving points on the field...


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Wilson is now playing at the adequate level we need for this team to win with the defense we had. Unfortunately, now that defense seems to have been exposed due to an inability to stop the dink and dunk. I also think the loss of Jones hurt us immensely. Our 4 man rush was enough with him out there, now it isn't.

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He's improving and that's what he needed to show as a rookie. We can't ask for much more than that.


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The int was pretty bad, but otherwise he was solid.


I don't think it was all that bad. Int on a long ball attempt...could have happened to anyone really.

On a side note, I see there are still a lot of people around here wearing Flynn colored glasses.


It was bad because there was a very large window where he could make a much safer throw and still get a big gain. He waited too long and even then if he throws a little short it's probably a long completion, but instead he goes too deep and doesn't notice the safety waiting there to rob him. It was his biggest mistake of the game and it cost us, but it didn't cost us the game. 1 big mistake in an overall very well played game by the young QB.

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I believe today's game proves RW3 should immediately be enshrined in the HOF and Ring of Honor.....oh, yeah, and retire his number too.

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 Post subject: Re: Russell Wilson had a great game.
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:09 am 
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Ah, c'mon. Put it into context and he was gr8 like Sugar Frosted Flakes!

He was:
-Great compared to his week one performance.
-Great compared to most any 3rd round rookie starter
-Great in the pocket compared to most ANY rookie starter
-Great composure for a rookie

A great NFL QB? Not yet, as he will readily admit. Can we stop with the Hyperbole? I don't recall any posts in this thread stating that RW has reached great NFL QB status, is an HOFer, has become an all-pro or otherwise.

For all of you that just like to strike out at something after a loss, the 'D' (or lack of) is a much more deserving target, IMO. To the Flynn boosters, sorry, I don't have an answer for that obsession.


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 Post subject: Re: Russell Wilson had a great game.
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:17 am 
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HawKnPeppa wrote:
Ah, c'mon. Put it into context and he was gr8 like Sugar Frosted Flakes!

He was:
-Great compared to his week one performance.
-Great compared to most any 3rd round rookie starter
-Great in the pocket compared to most ANY rookie starter
-Great composure for a rookie

A great NFL QB? Not yet, as he will readily admit. Can we stop with the Hyperbole? I don't recall any posts in this thread stating that RW has reached great NFL QB status, is an HOFer, has become an all-pro or otherwise.

For all of you that just like to strike out at something after a loss, the 'D' (or lack of) is a much more deserving target, IMO. To the Flynn boosters, sorry, I don't have an answer for that obsession.


Saying he was great because "compared to how he played before" is like saying Ryan Leaf was great because he threw less INT than a previous game or kicked and screamed less than he had two weeks prior.

While I agree that he looked very good and like a starting caliber QB, we have to also understand this was against a terrible Detroit passing D, then also realize they were missing multiple starters in their secondary. He was great compared to how he has looked on the road, but in real terms, he was merely adequate.

Wilson appears to be making strides, which is exciting. But he also keeps making a lot of mistakes. That INT should have been thrown 5-10 yards shorter and 3 seconds earlier where/when Rice was actually wide open, screaming for the ball. It was a rookie mistake, I get that, but it was still a terrible choice and not one a QB that played a great game makes.

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