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 Post subject: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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Vikings offensive strength is our Defensive weakness. I am extremely curious about what we are going to do to even try to contain Percy Harvin and Adrian Peterson because those two are more than enough to completely tear apart the defense I saw today. Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner will be almost useless in coverage because the rest of the passes will be going to the Tight ends. #4 Offense or not, what I saw today was truly embarrassing for the defense. Christian Ponder is not as crappy of a quarterback as people are making him out to be, especially with our lack of pass rush. I have a bad feeling that we are going to have to score more than 24 points to win.


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meh.

Not sold on the Vikings and this is a home game. We are not a bad team.

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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I have zero fear of the Vikings.

Seahawks win big. 31-7.

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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Christian Ponder is not as crappy of a quarterback as people are making him out to be

I disagree. He's awful.

The only concern with them is Adrian Peterson pounding it through the middle against us the way Frank Gore did, which is a very valid concern.


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I just don't agree that the Vikes will be tough. We'll be at home after a rough 0-2 road trip, looking to recover and hit someone hard in the face. The Viking's D is not very good, and their offense is beatable. Ponder is not as good as you think. He makes poor decisions and leans heavily on a still fumble-prone Peterson to open things up for him. We'll win big. I promise.

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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We'll see. After watching how poor our defense is at covering the middle of the field, I have a bad feeling about this game.

Add to that, the Vikings have better Tackles than Detroit, so we might have problems with our pass rush again.


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No fear of any team we play at our house.

I have nothing but fear for any team we play in theirs.


Perfectly said.

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Seattle wins this game comfortably.

They'll dismantle the NYJ the week after.

This team WILL be 6-4 after 10 games. I'd bet $500 on it.


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No fear of any team we play at our house.

I have nothing but fear for any team we play in theirs.


Yep, pretty much!

That said, I do think the Vikings are a much more worthy foe than many thought they would be at the start of the season. They're a very good team this year, and not at all the pushover guaranteed win many predicted when we were all 0-0.

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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We'll see. After watching how poor our defense is at covering the middle of the field, I have a bad feeling about this game.

Add to that, the Vikings have better Tackles than Detroit, so we might have problems with our pass rush again.


Do you not think they will be able to see that on film and adjust? I'm sure it's got to be nagging the coaches to no end.

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We'll see. After watching how poor our defense is at covering the middle of the field, I have a bad feeling about this game.

Add to that, the Vikings have better Tackles than Detroit, so we might have problems with our pass rush again.


Do you not think they will be able to see that on film and adjust? I'm sure it's got to be nagging the coaches to no end.


This isn't the first game a team has taken advantage of the middle.

We also can't get off the field on 3rd down...which has been a season long problem that "seeing the film and adjusting" has not fixed.

It's a valid concern until proven otherwise.

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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We will see. The hawks are a mediocre football team.

So no games are a given.

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Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.

This article can explain how bad Ponder is better than I can.

http://firejerrykill.com/2012/10/18/pon ... s-stumble/


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Bakergirl wrote:
Hawks46 wrote:
We'll see. After watching how poor our defense is at covering the middle of the field, I have a bad feeling about this game.

Add to that, the Vikings have better Tackles than Detroit, so we might have problems with our pass rush again.


Do you not think they will be able to see that on film and adjust? I'm sure it's got to be nagging the coaches to no end.


This isn't the first game a team has taken advantage of the middle.

We also can't get off the field on 3rd down...which has been a season long problem that "seeing the film and adjusting" has not fixed.

It's a valid concern until proven otherwise.


Thus the "nagging" comment. They are bound to come up with an answer eventually...

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.


We haven't taken away short routes all year.

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Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.


We haven't taken away short routes all year.


Yeah...this team is just head scratching sometimes but that's why I'm expecting them to come out and put the hurt on the Vikings because they always manage to surprise me.


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Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.

This article can explain how bad Ponder is better than I can.

http://firejerrykill.com/2012/10/18/pon ... s-stumble/


The issue with this is that the short route is our Achilles heel, not the long bomb.

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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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Its the NFL every team can beat you having said that I feel Seattle can beat Minny at home. I truly believe some of the the issues on 3rd and long is a lack of pass rush. This gets better at home with pass rush getting better at home. I'm just not concerned with the Vikes after seeing what Tampa did to them running it. Seattle is getting better offensively but ran the ball only 19 times today. That should not not happen need to be more balanced than that and play action will get even better.


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 Post subject: Re: The Vikings are going to be harder to beat than Detroit
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We will win comfortably the next two weeks.

Its the game after the bye that will trip us up probably.

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