Who's with me in the stuff happens camp?

I'm not down on the defense, even elite defenses have games like that, check out the losses SF has had

Russell Wilson is growing and WILL become a monster QB in this league, I'd put money on that right now.

I'm not worried, losses happen and alway have and always will, they suck but I'm not down about this at all.

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Official Tharold Simon Fan Club Member

I'm there. Maybe I'm too hungover to get upset, but I choose to look at the positives and the potential of the team.

I'm with ya. We only get 16 gamedays a year, i'm going to enjoy them win or lose.

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Yep. Would have liked this win, but I still see us finishing 10-6. Maybe we get to the playoffs, maybe we don't, but at the very least, I've seen improvement this year, and we've been competitive in EVERY game. Can't hate that.

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I honestly didn't expect us to be a competitor this season. I felt we needed more on the offense.

It sucks to lose games we should win, but I'm not cancelling Christmas.

I do wonder about Carroll, however....he is not getting this team beyond the 7-8 or 8-8 level.

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@SeahawkGreg

YEAH, WE HAVE A DUDE NAMED CHRISTINE...DEAL WITH IT!

yes i see the positives.. Wilson is a GAMER for sure and will get better with more games!

We need to shore up the middle on defense. Still not sure we have good enough WRs and our right tackle is weakness (i see him get pushed back into the QB too much)..

yeah mediocrity is a blast!

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Same here. I had us going 4-4 at the halfway point. But i didnt think the losses would be against the Rams, Lions; i had the Patriots and Packer games as losses. I believe in this team and PC but it's still kinda frustrating.

I honestly think it's not worth it to start wondering about Carroll. Yeah, the record is frustrating, but a couple of things are important to remember:

This team has been a monster in the draft, and the talent on the roster is skyrocketing. This team is INCREDIBLY young, and EXTREMELY talented. That translates into wins more often than not once players start to reach their prime. Everyone wants to win, losing sucks, and average teams are frustrating, but it doesn't take much imagination to see that this roster is growing more talented each year.

The defense as a unit is great. Yes, it sucked today, I'm not denying that, but it's genuinely talented and extremely young. It's not a mirage. They'll only get better the more they play.

We have a QB who looks legit, has a great deep ball, and gives us a legit play-action threat. He's still a rookie, and he throws some frustrating picks, but he has also improved dramatically over the course of the year, he is NOT too short, his pocket presence has improved, he's shown a knack for making clutch plays... That bodes really, really well for us.

Oh, and he was a 3rd rounder. Which means that first rounder next year doesn't have to go to a QB. It can go to playmakers.

I'm cool. Losing always sucks, especially in games you have a legit chance to win.

I like this thread.

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Is it really fair to label us a "monster" in the draft? I'd say we are a monster if it translates into more wins, which it hasn't.

We've drafted well in spots...but if there is no change in the end result, what gives?

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@SeahawkGreg

YEAH, WE HAVE A DUDE NAMED CHRISTINE...DEAL WITH IT!

Honest to god, I didn't look at this like it was WE HAVE to make the playoffs, I didnt expect it at all, but it was the first time in a awhile where I felt like "Man we have a really good chance to get in" I felt it was possible, but not like I expected it. That doesn't mean I don't think it isn't possible, this team could catch fire starting next week and run the table, who knows? its the beauty of the NFL!

I'm look at next year as the playoffs or bust year, we still need to add some "touchdown" makers, and the oline needs a real starter at RT.

I'm just finding it hard to be down right now at all.

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We could be Browns fans..... Guess that puts this season into perspective for how lucky we are to be competitive in every single game.

There's been an enormous change in the record of the team since Carroll took over, but rookies don't often immediately translate into wins. Compared to 3 years ago, the team's way better. Compared to last year, the QB is better, the OL is better, the receivers are about the same, and the D is better. It's easy to focus on the record alone and not notice the scores in those games, and the teams that they're playing. Yes, this was a shitty loss, but it was also a 3-point loss on the road to a very, very good Detroit team. A year or two ago, that's not a close game.

Like I said to someone else, if we're still 8-8 in two years, then we'll talk. But right now, I'm really encouraged by the development of RW, the OL, and the D.

And Sidney Rice beginning to emerge is a nice change, too.

Yup.... I wasn't able to watch today, but listened for a few minutes while we were still up 17-14, but the Lions driving. I knew we were gonna lose at that point...shrugged and moved on. Kinda have given up on winning anything of importance this season after the debacle in San Fran. Still want to win, but I'll take it as a pleasant surprise instead of an expectation, and hope next year Wilson and company put it together.

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Allright! We will get em next year!

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What is with this attitude some people seem to have?

I don't think our only options are "freak out chicken little style at any bad thing that happens and dismiss all analysis and explanation as excuse making" or "let's play for draft picks". That's not the reality of the discussion.

This has been a crazy year so far!hawks been in every game! I love watching rw3 "grow" every game! Its exciting to me, we gonna have a great team. . . One day. . .

Yours is a great attitude. I'm not worried about this year or next year. Starting a rookie QB, with a suspect line, I saw (and continue to see) this year as an extended pre-season. I believe we will be a monster next year.

If anyone expected us to go to the SB, their expectations were simply too high. Get away from that and we're having an excellent year while building what should be an excellent future.