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Post subject: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller...  Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:18 am |
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Does not have a single touchdown catch. That's just crazy.
He's been open for a few and the QB didn't see him, and gotten close a few other times. Miller is solid, and I wish we used him more. I'd like to see him have a huge game this Sunday.
I'm beyond unimpressed with McCoy and Moore, although Moore hasn't had many looks. Where the heck has McCoy been since his TD catch against the Cowpukes?? TE - along with WR - needs serious attention this off-season.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:22 am |
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I loved when we signed Miller and am PISSED that we are not using him as we should.
I hope he doesn't fall prey to the Law of Diminished Returns.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:40 am |
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That is because he is an offensive lineman now.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:53 am |
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Darrell Bevell will not use the TE's like the NE Pats do. That is his style of play and I do not see him making greater use of the TE's in the passing game. BTW...I hope that he proves me wrong this Sunday.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:59 am |
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2nd most catches on the team behind Rice....oh dear god that is crazy.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:02 pm |
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iigakusei wrote: 2nd most catches on the team behind Rice....oh dear god that is crazy. Posting Seahawks receiving stats as some kind of evidence is comical. They suck across the board. He has 14 catches through 7 games, a whopping average of two per game. As stated, he is not being utilized correctly. _________________ @SeahawkGregYEAH, WE HAVE A DUDE NAMED CHRISTINE...DEAL WITH IT!
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:05 pm |
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Bigpumpkin wrote: Darrell Bevell will not use the TE's like the NE Pats do. That is his style of play and I do not see him making greater use of the TE's in the passing game. BTW...I hope that he proves me wrong this Sunday. not true. Bevell used Shiancoe quite a bit in Minnesota
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:05 pm |
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Bigpumpkin wrote: Darrell Bevell will not use the TE's like the NE Pats do. That is his style of play and I do not see him making greater use of the TE's in the passing game. BTW...I hope that he proves me wrong this Sunday. Thats not entirely true , Shaincoe had really solid years while playing for the Vikings under Bevell
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:06 pm |
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SeaMeat wrote: I loved when we signed Miller and am PISSED that we are not using him as we should.
I hope he doesn't fall prey to the Law of Diminished Returns. The Law of Dimished returns states that in all productive processes, adding more of one factor of production, while holding all others constant, will at some point yield lower per-unit returns. For example, if you have one piece of really good pizza- the 2nd piece won't taste quite as good. I'm not sure how this fits in with Miller- we haven't had a good piece of pizza yet, because we fail to utilize him as nothing more than a blocker. _________________  "We all we got, we all we need"
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:08 pm |
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We all knew this would happen. He's a lineman now. If he's on your fantasy team, and I'm assuming that is why you might care about him so much, drop him. He won't he catching a lot of passes anytime soon. If he can block better, I'd be okay with him sticking around. I'd like to see us use more TE routes but until our O line can protect a rookie QB better, he's a blocker. Get used to it
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:11 pm |
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FargoHawk wrote: Bigpumpkin wrote: Darrell Bevell will not use the TE's like the NE Pats do. That is his style of play and I do not see him making greater use of the TE's in the passing game. BTW...I hope that he proves me wrong this Sunday. not true. Bevell used Shiancoe quite a bit in Minnesota Shiancoe also didn't have to stay in to block all the time - he had a big-boy offensive line that didn't need the help. It's a different thing here... _________________ @SeahawkGregYEAH, WE HAVE A DUDE NAMED CHRISTINE...DEAL WITH IT!
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:43 pm |
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I really wish we could have kept Winslow.....he seemed like a perfect compliment to Miller. A long athletic TE that could beat LB's in zone coverage.
Now other teams don't have to respect our TE threat because Miller's in to help block on most offensive plays because Moore and McCoy aren't consistent enough to warrant attention.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:52 pm |
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When's the last time we ran a short pass play to the TE from a play action? Holmgren days?
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:12 pm |
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He is not utilized correctly. He should be utilized closer to the way Dallas utilize Jason Witten.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:52 pm |
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He is the victim of 2 quarterbacks one of whom could not make a second read and one who can't (yet). Hopefully when Russ digests more of the playbook it will improve and hopefully the OLine improves as well. I feel bad for the guy actually.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:53 pm |
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Much like Rice, he needs many more targets. I remember maybe one pass thrown his way against SF - although he was kept in to help block most of the time.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:57 pm |
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lukerguy wrote: SeaMeat wrote: I loved when we signed Miller and am PISSED that we are not using him as we should.
I hope he doesn't fall prey to the Law of Diminished Returns. The Law of Dimished returns states that in all productive processes, adding more of one factor of production, while holding all others constant, will at some point yield lower per-unit returns. For example, if you have one piece of really good pizza- the 2nd piece won't taste quite as good. I'm not sure how this fits in with Miller- we haven't had a good piece of pizza yet, because we fail to utilize him as nothing more than a blocker. Correct, and as he is used more as a blocking TE his catching abilities will diminish.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:57 pm |
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FlyingGreg wrote: iigakusei wrote: 2nd most catches on the team behind Rice....oh dear god that is crazy. Posting Seahawks receiving stats as some kind of evidence is comical. They suck across the board. He has 14 catches through 7 games, a whopping average of two per game. As stated, he is not being utilized correctly. I was surprised when I looked it up...I would have guessed he was 4th or 5th.
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:58 pm |
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iigakusei wrote: FlyingGreg wrote: iigakusei wrote: 2nd most catches on the team behind Rice....oh dear god that is crazy. Posting Seahawks receiving stats as some kind of evidence is comical. They suck across the board. He has 14 catches through 7 games, a whopping average of two per game. As stated, he is not being utilized correctly. I was surprised when I looked it up...I would have guessed he was 4th or 5th. He is on pace to catch a few more than last season...still like to see a lot more. _________________ @SeahawkGregYEAH, WE HAVE A DUDE NAMED CHRISTINE...DEAL WITH IT!
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Post subject: Re: After 22 games with the Seahawks, Zach Miller... Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:58 pm |
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It's a shame. I think this team has more offensive weapons than ability to use them for whatever reasons at this point.
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