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Anybody else see that? Irritated, body language, throwing his mouthpiece....

So what I want to know is, was he upset with SF defense, or RW not throwing him the ball? Or maybe just frustrated with himself? I really like Rice, but I'd be upset if he was acting like some prima donna. I'd also be upset if he were dead-on right to be frustrated with Wilson, bud bad chemistry we don't need. Just sayin'

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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.


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I saw that too and was curious as to why. My initial reaction was that he probably thought he was open and was mad it didn't come his way. I have no idea though, hard to say. He could have just been pissed that we didn't convert the play, who knows. I don't get the impression that he has an attitude problem, doesn't seem that way to me. As a matter of fact, he actually seems a little low-keyed to me personality-wise.


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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.


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I think there's an element of frustration in him that he is open a lot and not seeing enough passes.

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I would be pissed at that pass offense too. How could you not? It doesn't matter where the blame goes, corrections need to be made this week. I got the feeling a lot of guys simply did not show up for war. Maybe Sidney started to notice it too and had a lapse of leadership for a brief moment? ***Saw the comment about the PC comments and I retract previous question***


To be honest I'd like to see SOMEONE on the offense rounded guys up on the sideline and rallying them up. It's something I (personally) haven't seen a lot of this year. SOMEONE/ANYONE needs to grab this offense by the horns and will it to become great.


Harbaugg outscores his opponents after a loss by a count of 93-11!!! I'd say the 'hawks did a pretty good job of not falling victim like most unfortunate teams have. That game had loss written all over it, and it fit perfectly into this pattern of Loss/Win/Win Seattle has going!


Whatever though, it's a new week and I'm looking forward to seeing wins against MN and DET. Maybe even get that third win in a row against...ugggh...the jets...going into the BYE.

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It's better than him walking off the field with a shrug and laughing on the sidelines; whatever the motivation.

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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.


This is 100 percent pure crap and damage control by Pete. He was in Wilson's ear something FIERCE about the ball not coming his way. I will have to say that Rice was WIDE open on the play that he was pissed off about, and it ended up in an interception for Edwards. However, there is a better way to handle that situation than what Rice did. Heat of the moment in my opinion.

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If he were saying in the press that they need to get him the ball more, there could be some controversy here, but to be frustrated in a game where the offense is struggling yet again, is what I want to see from these guys. They need to all play better. I think Rice realizes they just aren't up to par yet on the offensive side of the ball....this isn't just due to a single outburst on the field, but from his comments I've heard so far this year. The comments have pretty much been how they need to get better offensively to help out the defense. I've never heard him call anyone out or say any single person is to blame, but that the entire offense just needs to play better as a whole.

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Russell Wilson on twitter, "The weak look at adversity and crumble... The strong keep working, fighting, and know adversity simply is opportunity."



Aaron Curry had cool inspirational quotes too, where did that get him?

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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.



Could be many things. Could be that he was open and was mad that Wilson didn't throw him the ball. Then when PC asked him, he came with this answer to diverge controversy. Who knows, happens all the time.

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Russell Wilson on twitter, "The weak look at adversity and crumble... The strong keep working, fighting, and know adversity simply is opportunity."


Aaron Curry had cool inspirational quotes too, where did that get him?


A Wilson-Curry comparison....cool, we haven't had that yet.

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He's a great kid and a great leader.

That doesn't win games in this league. I give him a pass for last night because the game is much different if passes aren't dropped, but he's been missing open guys all year. Hard to blame anyone else but him for that.

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Russell Wilson on twitter, "The weak look at adversity and crumble... The strong keep working, fighting, and know adversity simply is opportunity."



Aaron Curry had cool inspirational quotes too, where did that get him?


A job playing football for an NFL team making pretty good money? :Dunno:

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I happen to like when all players challenge themselves to do better and point each other's mistakes, as long as it is done in a friendly and a constructive manner.

NFL players are not exactly the brightest bulbs on the planet, no athletes are, so it is only natural that they are handling themselves in a less than perfect/gentlemanly fashion when things dont go their way.

Rice screaming and throwing a mouth piece on the ground is an example of those type of occasions. that said, he is a seasoned veteran who is a leader among the recieving corps, and I believe that he does have a right to yell at a rookie quarterback (we may never know what exactly happened - flag or frustration or QB not throwing to him or all the above). as long as they both respect each other and act as a true team, this stuff will iron itself out.

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He was also probably just disappointed that the ball was picked off and their drive ended.

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I remember last season with Jackson the wideouts getting frustrated with him for not seeing receivers that were wide open.

I suspect that is beginning to happen again, especially with the short/mid range routes. Wilson had success with the long ball for a couple of weeks and now appears to be keying on it.

He is not seeing the entire field for whatever reason. Something he did do early in the year. If its feeling the pressure or what I don't know.

Short/nid range passes get out quickly so the defenses can't react to them. that is not happening right now. He is waiting for longer routes to open up and looking right past open receivers.

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I thinks that it's just that Seattle appears to equate to a death sentence for WRs. Seattle has managed to bring in great WRs over the years but they never pan out as hoped (IE Branch, TO, the $8M punt returner Burleson). Also, I hate to admit it, but Rice and Edwards haven't really been winning me over that much. Although I seem to have been developing a man-crush on Tate ever since the Sean Lee hit. :mrgreen:

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If it was about Wilson, then Sydney's offbase. It's not like Sydney's been a model of consistency since arriving. He's played better the past few weeks, but before that, he got hurt or made boneheaded plays.


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They will be fine, though we could use a little more swag at the receiver positions. Rice should be pissed.

PC should start practice this week with Sherman as a wideout, and Thomas in the slot with Flynn at QB.. :stirthepot:

Give the starting offense a little wake up call :shock:

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Russell Wilson on twitter, "The weak look at adversity and crumble... The strong keep working, fighting, and know adversity simply is opportunity."


Aaron Curry had cool inspirational quotes too, where did that get him?


A Wilson-Curry comparison....cool, we haven't had that yet.

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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.


This is 100 percent pure crap and damage control by Pete. He was in Wilson's ear something FIERCE about the ball not coming his way. I will have to say that Rice was WIDE open on the play that he was pissed off about, and it ended up in an interception for Edwards. However, there is a better way to handle that situation than what Rice did. Heat of the moment in my opinion.

I was about to post the same thing. Pete is covering Wilsons astroturf. Rice was wide open and I didn't see anyone get in his way. He got in Wilson's ear afterwards though.

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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.


This is 100 percent pure crap and damage control by Pete. He was in Wilson's ear something FIERCE about the ball not coming his way. I will have to say that Rice was WIDE open on the play that he was pissed off about, and it ended up in an interception for Edwards. However, there is a better way to handle that situation than what Rice did. Heat of the moment in my opinion.


Yea no kidding, if you believe PC here I have some really great snake oil to sell you. Rice is an NFL WR in an offense that cannot move the ball through the air against good defenses. Of course it pisses him off to not get throws when he thinks he is open. It probably was killing him in the second half as things got more and more bleak. He just let his frustration boil over after the terrible interception. He is a competitor and a pro though, it will be ok I'm sure.


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HAHAHAHAHA

Great recievers, hahahahahahahahahaha, cough, hahahaaahaaaaaa ha ha....

phew got that out.

Back on topic.

He's showing fire, if was bitching after a td or a first down then its primadonna. I don't think its the worst thing to occasionally say feed the ball, ya missed me. I like seeing that a little more than head down back to huddle. Theres other ways to deal with it, but I can't hate that too much coming from our #1 reciever. Sid wants to win, and he wants it bad, thats a good thing.


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I'm OK with the outburst, it means Rice cares.

My guess is he was open on the play and because Wilson was running for his life he threw it into triple coverage and the pass was picked. That interception was as much the O-Lines fault as it was Wilson's.

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I give him a pass for last night because the game is much different if passes aren't dropped, but he's been missing open guys all year. Hard to blame anyone else but him for that.


Whether he becomes what we hope he will or not will depend nearly entirely on his ability to stop missing open guys.....as in read defenses correctly. It is far and away the number one skill that good and great QBs posess. None get it right all the time, but the good/great ones do very, very often. I'm hoping with experience he'll get there. Likely we'll know if he has by later next season.

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Wilson will be fine, IMO. I think he has to trust what he sees and react to it. You see him double clutching on screens. I think he is afraid of throwing a pick. He's gonna have to stick it into tight windows and trust his receivers. The problem is the drops.

Drops cost us the game against the Cards. Drops cost us having a great chance last night.

People were complaining about Wilson throwing the ball high. Now, he's putting it on guys hands and they simply drop them.

BTW - seems like every other game I watch with Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, etc., the announcers rave when they throw a ball high and let the receiver go get it. They say it's the only spot that only the receiver had a chance. Wilson probably has thrown the ball too high a few times, but my main point is that we absolutely grill him for any imperfection. He is a rookie, he's not going to be perfect.


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PC said in the press conf. that it was because he thought he had been illegally contacted and didn't get a call.


He probably needs to come up with something better. Watching that play again, Rice never actually gets touched by anyone at any point in his route, not even a hand-check.


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Aaron Curry had cool inspirational quotes too, where did that get him?


Yeah, Wilson could have just pissed and moaned about those FIVE drops that were very catchable balls, but he didn't.
Hell, Smiths Receivers were making MOST of their catches when the balls were within their range, Brady had how many yards passing?

They're called Receivers for a pretty simple reason,,You don't win many games when you drop FIVE key passes. Turbin has been praised by a bunch of fans here on .NET for having good hands, but he too missed a chance of taking one to the house.

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Like what quotes exactly? The Aaron Curry I remember was about as eloquent as Bruce Irvin.

As far as Rice goes, I don't know the whole story, but he's always struck me as being one of the quietest, LEAST diva type personalities on the team.


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I'm OK with the outburst, it means Rice cares.

My guess is he was open on the play and because Wilson was running for his life he threw it into triple coverage and the pass was picked. That interception was as much the O-Lines fault as it was Wilson's.

I personally disagree. The line gave him time for a 50 yard pass. He had plenty of time to find rice up the middle if he could see him.


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All the comments about missing open receivers just makes me laugh after listening to Warren Moon talk about that point. Its easy to criticize from the couch, having a widescreen view of the field from above. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not worried about Wilson. He's gonna have good weeks and bad, and the fact that multiple HOF QBs have gone on record giving him an ok to good grade for a rookie means a whole lot more to me than the hysterical overreactions of panicked or exuberant fans. Not a single one of us has a truly educated or objective opinion of the kid. Its time to relax and go along for the ride, thats all we can do and thats where I'm at with it.


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All the comments about missing open receivers just makes me laugh after listening to Warren Moon talk about that point. Its easy to criticize from the couch, having a widescreen view of the field from above. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not worried about Wilson. He's gonna have good weeks and bad, and the fact that multiple HOF QBs have gone on record giving him an ok to good grade for a rookie means a whole lot more to me than the hysterical overreactions of panicked or exuberant fans. Not a single one of us has a truly educated or objective opinion of the kid. Its time to relax and go along for the ride, thats all we can do and thats where I'm at with it.



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