What makes the Hawks defense so different?

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  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Wenhawk wrote: Our LB's are not spectacular but get the job done.


    people need to stop saying this. Our LBs are quietly a very good unit.


    No doubt. KJ Wright is playing Pro Bowl good right now at Sam and Bobby Wagner is going to be really special (and this game is going to be a great test for him). Leroy is playing some of the most consistent ball of his life I think and has been a huge stabilizing factor on the entire defense. The LB corps isn't the "jewel of the defense" the way it was back in the Hill/Tatupu/Petersen days, but they are still an above average unit.
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  • AF_Hawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:No weaknesses, that's what makes this defense unique. In the past we've been strong at certain positions, but there was always a glaring weakness. Not anymore, we have speed, quickness and nasty everywhere.


    3rd down is still the weakness IMO.



    Not last week. We were stingy on 3rd down. Carolina went 2-11 or 18% success rate. IF we win this game WE MUST have the 3rd down conversion % below 30%, IMO. In a few games we've allowed over 40%. THat can't happen in this game.

    3rd down is the most important down for this game- Both for the offense and defense. If we play 3rd down on offense/Defense like our first 4 games. ie. Offense converted=28%, defense allowed conversions =43% then we will lose the game.

    However if the offense/defense does more like the Carolina game (off=50%, defense= 18%) and the offense converts 35-40% of their 3rd down's and the defense limits the PAT to 30% than SEattle has a very good chance at winning, IMO
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  • jlwaters1 wrote:
    AF_Hawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:No weaknesses, that's what makes this defense unique. In the past we've been strong at certain positions, but there was always a glaring weakness. Not anymore, we have speed, quickness and nasty everywhere.


    3rd down is still the weakness IMO.



    Not last week. We were stingy on 3rd down. Carolina went 2-11 or 18% success rate. IF we win this game WE MUST have the 3rd down conversion % below 30%, IMO. In a few games we've allowed over 40%. THat can't happen in this game.

    3rd down is the most important down for this game- Both for the offense and defense. If we play 3rd down on offense/Defense like our first 4 games. ie. Offense converted=28%, defense allowed conversions =43% then we will lose the game.

    However if the offense/defense does more like the Carolina game (off=50%, defense= 18%) and the offense converts 35-40% of their 3rd down's and the defense limits the PAT to 30% than SEattle has a very good chance at winning, IMO


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  • Here are some of the things which make us so different.

    The Secondary. Both starting corners (Browner, Sherman) are among the tallest, most physical in the NFL. Browner is 6'4 and 220lbs while Sherman is 6'3 and 195lbs. Browner plays the most physical game I've ever seen from a corner. Sherman is physical but is more of a pure cover corner built in the spirit of Champ Bailey in that he's a corner who plays more like a WR. Backing these two freaks of nature are two of the best safeties in the NFL. Kam Chancellor is a devastating hitter at 6'3", 230lbs with speed to keep up with pass catching TEs. He plays in the box a majority of the time and is therefore more like a 4th linebacker on the field. We are able to employ 8 man fronts a lot of the time due to the elite athleticism afforded by Earl Thomas, the ridiculously speedy free safety, with some of the best instincts I've ever seen at the position. Earl Thomas gives us the ability to run single high safety looks while allowing our corners to play tight and physical at the line.

    The linebackers. While this crew is overshadowed by the elite play of the secondary, they are quietly playing some really damn solid football. We have a rookie starting at MLB in Bobby Wagner, and his play has been stellar so far with flashes of elite ability the past couple games. We grabbed KJ Wright in the fourth round of the draft last year and he was able to replace first round bust, Aaron Curry, by midseason. Now, KJ Wright is becoming the player we all should have had in Curry. He is a terror who makes plays sideline to sideline. He enjoys making running backs cry three yards behind the LOS. Adding age and experience to the group is Leroy Hill, who has always been solid.

    The D-Line. These guys are monsters. Arguably, the most unique thing about our defense is the way the defensive line plays in our base 4-3 look. Red Bryant plays a sort of hybrid "5 technique" role, similar to that of a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme. Opposite him is Chris Clemons, our rush end, with Brandon Mebane manning the nose (in spectacular form this season), with Alan Branch manning the 3 tech spot. Bryant, Mebane, and Branch all frequently occupy two blockers while Clemons terrorizes the quarterback and makes plays in pursuit. I won't even get into the substitution packages since there are so many different pressure looks, overloads, and new wrinkles involving Bruce Irvin and Jason Jones.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:To be fair, where it's been really effective is at Gillette where the crowd noise is obviously going to be a lot quieter.


    It seemed to work good in Buffalo. NE prepares for crowd noise extremely well. The old Colts dome was very loud and NE didnt seem to have a problem there.

    I think the no huddle plays right into the strengths of the Seahawk defense.. they feed off the crowd noise and after awhile could tee off on Brady.


    The Seattle D may not get a rest.

    With Hernandez coming back, I expect to see more 2 TE looks with you guys trying to establish the running game (no easy feat against this D though, as they're 3rd against the run).

    Going to be a very fun matchup.


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