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 Post subject: Re: Rookie QB comparison from O'Neil
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:12 pm 
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Vol you are assuming as much or probably way more about Flynn than anyone is assuming about Wilson. We know your stand point on Flynn and Wilson and IMO neither are rational.

No team has ever made rhe playoffs at 7-9 but we did and beat the defending champs. Sanchez went to the AFC championship his first two years and he sucks.

You don't know we couldn't be super bowl worthy. The learning curve Flynn has is chemistry with team mates and getting fully comfortable with the play book. He isn't having to learn the speed of the NFL game, how to function inside a pocket, how to read defenses and audible appropriately and the list goes on.
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What we are seeing from Wilson right now is likely what we will see for some time before he either takes the next step forward or backwards like Sanchez did. Hopefully it is forward.


Bollocks.

Name me ONE quarterback with Flynn's level of experience that EVER led his team to the SB.

Just one.

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie QB comparison from O'Neil
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Kind of scary when you think Sanchez had a similar type of following his rookie year and he went to two conference championship games back to back.


.........and now he's in danger of getting benched for arguably the most over-rated backup QB in NFL history.

Let's hope Wilson's ceiling is higher than being the next Mark Sanchez.

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie QB comparison from O'Neil
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:25 pm 
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RichNhansom wrote:
Vol you are assuming as much or probably way more about Flynn than anyone is assuming about Wilson. We know your stand point on Flynn and Wilson and IMO neither are rational.

No team has ever made rhe playoffs at 7-9 but we did and beat the defending champs. Sanchez went to the AFC championship his first two years and he sucks.

You don't know we couldn't be super bowl worthy. The learning curve Flynn has is chemistry with team mates and getting fully comfortable with the play book. He isn't having to learn the speed of the NFL game, how to function inside a pocket, how to read defenses and audible appropriately and the list goes on.
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What we are seeing from Wilson right now is likely what we will see for some time before he either takes the next step forward or backwards like Sanchez did. Hopefully it is forward.


Bollocks.

Name me ONE quarterback with Flynn's level of experience that EVER led his team to the SB.

Just one.


Jeff Hostetler. 3rd round pick, only threw 109 passes in seven years as a backup. Came in after Simms broke his foot in 1990, and led the Giants to a SB win.

There have been many pedestrian QB's that have won Superbowls. Rypien, Williams, Dilfer, Hostetler, Johnson.

The question is why are you already assuming Flynn falls into this sort of bad QB category when he hasn't even been given a chance yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Rookie QB comparison from O'Neil
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volsunghawk wrote:
Bollocks.

Name me ONE quarterback with Flynn's level of experience that EVER led his team to the SB.

Just one.


Jeff Hostetler. 3rd round pick, only threw 109 passes in seven years as a backup. Came in after Simms broke his foot in 1990, and led the Giants to a SB win.

There have been many pedestrian QB's that have won Superbowls. Rypien, Williams, Dilfer, Hostetler, Johnson.

The question is why are you already assuming Flynn falls into this sort of bad QB category when he hasn't even been given a chance yet?


Jeff Hostetler is the only one of those guys that fits the description Vol was looking for, and even then he didn't get to start until toward the very end of the season if I remember correctly. Johnson comes nowhere close. Dilfer and Williams both had more than a few full seasons of starting experience before they made their Super Bowl runs. Rypien started 30 games before his run in 1991.

I don't know what any of this even proves anyway other than rarely does a QB with little experience lead his team to the Super Bowl which is kind of obvious, is it not?

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