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 Post subject: Re: What do we do against the Pats no huddle?
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:30 am 
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The hawks need to keep NE off the field as much as possible, if the penalties drop off, this should be able to happen.

Brady is the master of the quick release and finding a receiver and the Pats have tons, they are good even using depth.

On D they have to get very physical at the snap, even take a penalty or two just to get their tempo off. Use TO's wisely on defense. Look to jump a route (take a risk)

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 Post subject: Re: What do we do against the Pats no huddle?
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The Pats ran 47 no huddle plays last week (an amazing number out of 89). Of those 47, only 12 were pass plays. They'll try to catch us when Mebane is out or when Irvin is in, times when our run D is weakest. Then they try to keep us in that package so they can run it down our throats. The moment they see the best defensive package they can run against is the moment they go into no huddle and start ramming it down our throats. This has the side benefit of making it easier to keep the ball away from our side of the field as a run play doesn't depend on who gets open. They control which way the play flows.

But this knowledge of their tactics can be taken advantage of. Once they go no huddle we can play to the run, force the play to our side of the field and get Mebane back out there or Irvin off the field. We can game plan not to put Irvin on the field except in third and long or leave Mebane out there on 3rd and medium. With the pressure Mebane is bringing up the middle, we should be able to handle both the run and the pass with him out there constantly. He'll get winded for sure, but if we stop the first downs, the no huddle can't operate.

There's only so much we can do, however. The biggest way to stop their no huddle offense is to stop them on third downs. They need to convert on third down when we've got a nickle or dime package on the field so that they can go into their no huddle offense and start running. If our 3rdDownsRUs Defense™ shows up on Sunday, it'll be a long day. If we totally stuff their run game, however, their no huddle offense will just be a failed tactic. Arizona did it.On the other hand, a huge game by Lynch and some long, sustained drives to rest our D will go a long ways to offsetting the effects of their no huddle.

We should really lean on Lynch and Turbin to beat the Pats IMO.

Bottom line: Arizona did it in NE so we can do it in Seattle. Brady threw for over 300 yards and Kolb threw for 140. NE had 25 first downs to AZ's 16. NE had 140 more yards offense. How'd AZ do it? They held NE to FG's and scored TD's both times they got into the red zone. 4 sacks helped.

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SalishHawkFan wrote:
The Pats ran 47 no huddle plays last week (an amazing number out of 89). Of those 47, only 12 were pass plays. They'll try to catch us when Mebane is out or when Irvin is in, times when our run D is weakest. Then they try to keep us in that package so they can run it down our throats. The moment they see the best defensive package they can run against is the moment they go into no huddle and start ramming it down our throats. This has the side benefit of making it easier to keep the ball away from our side of the field as a run play doesn't depend on who gets open. They control which way the play flows.

But this knowledge of their tactics can be taken advantage of. Once they go no huddle we can play to the run, force the play to our side of the field and get Mebane back out there or Irvin off the field. We can game plan not to put Irvin on the field except in third and long or leave Mebane out there on 3rd and medium. With the pressure Mebane is bringing up the middle, we should be able to handle both the run and the pass with him out there constantly. He'll get winded for sure, but if we stop the first downs, the no huddle can't operate.

There's only so much we can do, however. The biggest way to stop their no huddle offense is to stop them on third downs. They need to convert on third down when we've got a nickle or dime package on the field so that they can go into their no huddle offense and start running. If our 3rdDownsRUs Defense™ shows up on Sunday, it'll be a long day. If we totally stuff their run game, however, their no huddle offense will just be a failed tactic. Arizona did it.On the other hand, a huge game by Lynch and some long, sustained drives to rest our D will go a long ways to offsetting the effects of their no huddle.

We should really lean on Lynch and Turbin to beat the Pats IMO.

Bottom line: Arizona did it in NE so we can do it in Seattle. Brady threw for over 300 yards and Kolb threw for 140. NE had 25 first downs to AZ's 16. NE had 140 more yards offense. How'd AZ do it? They held NE to FG's and scored TD's both times they got into the red zone. 4 sacks helped.



Woodhead is very dangerous in this scenario. Dude can catch as well, a Welker version at RB.

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SalishHawkFan wrote:
The Pats ran 47 no huddle plays last week (an amazing number out of 89). Of those 47, only 12 were pass plays. They'll try to catch us when Mebane is out or when Irvin is in, times when our run D is weakest. Then they try to keep us in that package so they can run it down our throats. The moment they see the best defensive package they can run against is the moment they go into no huddle and start ramming it down our throats. This has the side benefit of making it easier to keep the ball away from our side of the field as a run play doesn't depend on who gets open. They control which way the play flows.

But this knowledge of their tactics can be taken advantage of. Once they go no huddle we can play to the run, force the play to our side of the field and get Mebane back out there or Irvin off the field. We can game plan not to put Irvin on the field except in third and long or leave Mebane out there on 3rd and medium. With the pressure Mebane is bringing up the middle, we should be able to handle both the run and the pass with him out there constantly. He'll get winded for sure, but if we stop the first downs, the no huddle can't operate.

There's only so much we can do, however. The biggest way to stop their no huddle offense is to stop them on third downs. They need to convert on third down when we've got a nickle or dime package on the field so that they can go into their no huddle offense and start running. If our 3rdDownsRUs Defense™ shows up on Sunday, it'll be a long day. If we totally stuff their run game, however, their no huddle offense will just be a failed tactic. Arizona did it.On the other hand, a huge game by Lynch and some long, sustained drives to rest our D will go a long ways to offsetting the effects of their no huddle.

We should really lean on Lynch and Turbin to beat the Pats IMO.

Bottom line: Arizona did it in NE so we can do it in Seattle. Brady threw for over 300 yards and Kolb threw for 140. NE had 25 first downs to AZ's 16. NE had 140 more yards offense. How'd AZ do it? They held NE to FG's and scored TD's both times they got into the red zone. 4 sacks helped.



Woodhead is very dangerous in this scenario. Dude can catch as well, a Welker version at RB.

Fortunately, they don't hand him the rock as often. Don't know why, his ypc is better. Seahawks better key on the guy when he's on the field in a no huddle, that's for sure.

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