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Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Patrick Willis, Larry Fitzgerald, and Kevin Kolb. Having stolen these starters, I then leave them on the bench so that the other teams are crippled.


The annoying thing is that I proposed this during the offseason when Smith was actually available...for not much more than Flynn. But we cancelled a visit with Smith when we signed Flynn.

We could have Alex Smith as our backup right now and the 9ers would have been screwed.

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Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Patrick Willis, Larry Fitzgerald, and Kevin Kolb. Having stolen these starters, I then leave them on the bench so that the other teams are crippled.


The annoying thing is that I proposed this during the offseason when Smith was actually available...for not much more than Flynn. But we cancelled a visit with Smith when we signed Flynn.

We could have Alex Smith as our backup right now and the 9ers would have been screwed.


Or they'd be forced to start Kaepernick and could possibly be even better than they are now...

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Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Patrick Willis, Larry Fitzgerald, and Kevin Kolb. Having stolen these starters, I then leave them on the bench so that the other teams are crippled.


The annoying thing is that I proposed this during the offseason when Smith was actually available...for not much more than Flynn. But we cancelled a visit with Smith when we signed Flynn.

We could have Alex Smith as our backup right now and the 9ers would have been screwed.


Or they'd be forced to start Kaepernick and could possibly be even better than they are now...


I don't think so.

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If we're stealing other players to simply hurt the other team rather than bolster our own, then:

Alex Smith
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and screw the Rams.

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Replace Doucet with Joe Staley, and Crabtree with Iupati and remake the right side of our line, and that's my list.

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Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Patrick Willis, Larry Fitzgerald, and Kevin Kolb. Having stolen these starters, I then leave them on the bench so that the other teams are crippled.


The annoying thing is that I proposed this during the offseason when Smith was actually available...for not much more than Flynn. But we cancelled a visit with Smith when we signed Flynn.

We could have Alex Smith as our backup right now and the 9ers would have been screwed.


yeap, not to mention Alex Smith leads the NFL in passer rating and Total QBR.


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Sarlacc83 wrote:
Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Patrick Willis, Larry Fitzgerald, and Kevin Kolb. Having stolen these starters, I then leave them on the bench so that the other teams are crippled.


The annoying thing is that I proposed this during the offseason when Smith was actually available...for not much more than Flynn. But we cancelled a visit with Smith when we signed Flynn.

We could have Alex Smith as our backup right now and the 9ers would have been screwed.


yeap, not to mention Alex Smith leads the NFL in passer rating and Total QBR.


I think a big part of that is the 49ers system and the way they use him. I don't think he would be nearly as successful if he went to a different team.

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Oh crap...

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Some of these lists just go to show how good the D-lines are in our division. Justin Smith, Dockett, Long, Aldon Smith, Campbell... Even with our awesome front four you'd make room for any of those guys.

Still, needs play a huge part and so my list is:

1. Vernon Davis
2. Fitzgerald
3. Staley
4. Amendola (healthy, of course)
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People just automatically assume that Patrick Willis is the best linebacker in the NFL. This is actually not true. In fact, P-Willie isnt even the best LB on his OWN TEAM.

That honor belongs to Navorro Bowman.

P.S. I'm not trying to diminish Willis in any way. He is still a great player. But i have to give credit where credit is due.


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I'm surprised how little Patrick Peterson is being mentioned. Our CBs are great, but Peterson is special.

1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Darnell Dockett
3. Justin Smith
4. Patrick Peterson
5. Patrick Willis

Our defense is already borderline elite, and this list had four more defenders, but that's where all the strength is in this division. Plus, Fitzgerald alone would put this offense over the top. Flynn would look amazing throwing to him.


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Willis, Aldon Smith, Chris Long, Mike Iupati(Sp?) and of course, most definitely Fitz. Love that guy even though I hate what he's done to us over the years.


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Calais Campbell over Red Bryant
Patrick Willis (slide Wagner over)
Larry Fitzgerald (Fitz, Rice, Tate)
Joe Staley over Breno Giacomini
Greg Zuerlein over Steven Hauschka

Kinda sucks how there isn't a franchise QB in the division.

Campbell is like Red Bryant with a very good, very consistent pass rush ability. He'd instantly add 6-8 sacks to this defense without giving up much against the run.

Willis is the best 4-3 linebacker in the NFL and Seattle could use another good one, so this is a no brainer.

Fitzgerald is killing me this year in fantasy, but this is obviously a no-brainer. He'd probably fair about as well as Rice in our current offense though.

Joe Staley might be the best tackle in the division. I like Breno, but our offense can't handle his mistakes right now. This is a big enough upgrade to justify making the list.

I'm surprised that I'm the first to name Zuerlein. Hauschka is good, but Zuerlein is unreal and his range changes field position strategy tremendously. Are you in opponent territory? Then you should expect to score if you have Zuerlein on your team.

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I'm surprised how little Patrick Peterson is being mentioned. Our CBs are great, but Peterson is special.


I was a HUGE fan of Peterson in the draft: I said he was the top player in 2011 over Cam Newton. But we have two top 10 CBs already (per PFF), and I doubt Peterson would thrive as much in our press system. We don't need him as a KR either. I'm not sure he's an upgrade for us, and if he is, it's by very little. That probably explains the scarcity, even if Peterson has a bright future.


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.....I'm surprised that I'm the first to name Zuerlein. Hauschka is good, but Zuerlein is unreal and his range changes field position strategy tremendously. Are you in opponent territory? Then you should expect to score if you have Zuerlein on your team........


Good one. Dude is simply amazing.

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1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Patrick Willis
3. Patrick Petersen
4. Aldon Smith
5. Darnell Dockett

i'd rather have quinn than aldon smith. aldon smith has 4.5 sacks this season, but his consistency of pressuring qb's has gone down since being named starter. he pressured at a much higher rate last season.


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